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6/30 gameday thread thread

anything going on? i notice michael taylor is still in AA. gordon beckham's got a pair of hits behind clayton richard. jason knapp's got 6 Ks in 3 innings. elijah dukes has a pair of hits. jesus montero's got a pair of HRs in AA. carlos saantana's got 2 hits. raddy liz is looking terrible. i'll have to eat crow on that at some point, it seems.

that should be 75 words. nope? well, lonnie chisenhall is all kinda studly. that should do it.

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Knapp

Knapp finishes with 12 K’s in 5 IP. Allowed 2 hits, 2 walks and a run.

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by koolkerns101 on Jun 30, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is he considered a top tier prospect

or do we wait until high A or AA to make that judgment?

by asyouwish33 on Jun 30, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like him

I think he deserves to be in the Matt Moore/Jordan Lyles conversation. I may have him rated higher than both.

Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson

by gore51 on Jun 30, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea that s fair

i posted that question, since then though ive traded for three picks total
i took moore, and lyles already, im considering taking knapp next

by jarjets89 on Jun 30, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that

Top notch fastball… great ceiling.

by alskor on Jun 30, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't put Knapp in with Moore or Lyles just yet...

Granted, he’s got size, and power, but from what I knew at the start of the year, he didn’t have anything else. I feel that Moore and Lyles are more complete than Knapp to this point.

Again, that opinion is based off of what is old news (much like pre-season reports of Lyles velocity being high 80s), so if anyone has any more recent description of Knapp’s secondary stuff or other news that would justify him being ranked with Lyles and Moore, then please post it!

I’ll go off and look around myself, and will post anything I find…

Poster formerly known as artie

by beastball on Jul 1, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

scott elbert

5 ip 6er 6ks 1bb 10 h ,
so he got knocked around a bit, but at least the k:bb was very good

by jarjets89 on Jun 30, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jp howel got a save

i remember 5 years or so ago when he was good prospect with Kansas City. Now he is looking more and more like Tampas Closer for the next while.

by kershaw_equals_stud on Jun 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jordan Schafer is alive!

2/5, HR, SB

Came off the DL a couple of days ago.

Now raise your goblet of rock. It's a toast to those who rock!

by Dewey Finn on Jun 30, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that game was on MLB network this afternoon

hit a go ahead wall scraper home run in the 8th inning.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Jun 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fausto

Carmona:
7 inn, 4 hit, 1 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 1 HR in AA

Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson

by gore51 on Jun 30, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cubs

Iowa lost to Round Rock 1-0.

Atkins: 8 ip, 3 h, 1 r, 7 K’s in 94 pitches. Was simply outdueled, but had an excellent outing. He had a solid June (38.1 ip, 33 h, 4 bb, 29 K’s, 15 R, 4 HR’s).

Tennessee beat Huntsville 7-2.

Carrillo: 2 ip, 4 K’s. giving him some burn, in 21 ip since he returned to AA, only given up 1 r on a solo shot, on 11 h, 9 bb, while getting 20 K’s.
Castillo: 2/4, 1 r, 1 2b, 2 rbi. has had some bad luck this year, but you gotta produce.
Adduci: 2/3, r, rbi, bb. red hot of late, the kid just doesn’t have power. going to the asg tho.

Daytona lost 6-4 to Jupiter.

Vitters: 0/3, 1 bb, 1 r
Guyer: 1/4, 1 r, 1 3b, 1 rbi, 1 bb.
Castro: 1/5, bb, E (25)

Peoria lost to Kane County 4-3.

Harrison: 2/5, r.
Hatley: 5 ip, 1 h, 2 bb. Nice little run of late.

Boise lost to Yakima 9-5.

Jon Nagel: 3 ip, 5 h, 3 r (1 unearned), 2 K’s, 1 HBP.
Ja-hoon Ha: 2/4, 1 r, 4 rbi, 1 K.

by toonsterwu on Jul 1, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tigers

Alex Avila: 1-2, 2B, 2 BB
Cale Iorg: 0-5, K
Wilkin Ramirez: 0-5, 2K
Scott Sizemore: 3-4, K
Ryan Streiby: 1-3, 2K, BB

Ryan Perry: 1IP, K, 2BB

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 1, 2009 1:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey

i was thinking about it the other day, for no apparent reason, but what would you say is the top 5-8 for the Tigers system right now? Perry and Jacobson seem likely to be in there. Turner and Oliver seem likely if they sign. Haven’t been following enough to know about Avila’s defense this year, but his bat makes it seem like he’d be in the top 8. Strieby? Wells? Crosby? Crosby seems like he deserves to be in a top 5 spot.

was scanning the statistics, and seems like the system has been better than i thought, but i don’t follow it all that closely.

by toonsterwu on Jul 1, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scott Sizemore
  1. on BA’s list last year and has hit .308/.396/.536 across AA/AAA this year, which is pretty dang spiffy for a 2B.

by aCone419 on Jul 1, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brett Cecil pitched out of the pen today for the Jays in the ninth inning instead of being the scheduled starter

I was at the game and almost had a heart attack over the stupidity of this move. I have not heard anything about switching him to a reliever yet and it is too early to start reducing his innings this year. I know he closed in college, but this makes little sense while he still has potential as a starter. Does anyone know why he came out in relief today instead of starting.

by tdot mariner fan on Jul 1, 2009 1:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i saw him pitch a couple times as a starter

he had a herky jerkey delivery and hid the ball well. lots of deception. was around 90-92mph, since he was a college closer i could see him put back in that role. his fastball suddenly with deception could be 94-95mph

by Asfan4ever723 on Jul 1, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cecil will be the Jay closer of the future

Said it last year after I attended his first AAA start. Do not like him as a starter.

by Bravesin07 on Jul 1, 2009 4:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chris Heisey

3-4, 2 2B, HR

by jibs on Jul 1, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rangers

Greg Golson: 2-5 2R
Max Ramirez: 0-3 2BB 2K
Richard Bleier: 6.0IP 7H 4R 4ER 3BB 2K 0HR
Martin Perez: 5.0IP 8H 2R 2ER 0BB 4K 0HR
Robbie Ross: 5.1IP 5H 3R 2ER 1BB 9K 2HR
Juan Grullon: 4.1IP 4H 2R 1ER 3BB 3K 0HR
Tomas Telis; 1-3 2B 2RBI

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 1, 2009 8:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ross

off to a great start, and the GB-FO ratio is awesome.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

perfect game (7 innings)

I feel someone should mention this—even if it was only 7 innings—Brandon Hynick pitched a perfect game in Colorado Springs—of all places. I realize he is not a top prospect, but still quite the feat.

On a related note, he has been pretty decent this year—especially in league and park context. I wonder if he might become a useful major leaguer—even if he doesn’t have the best stuff.

by DenverBears on Jul 1, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Arodys Vizcaino

7 k’s in 4 innings for Staten Island. In 12 1/3 innings so far: 21 k’s vs. 5 walks, 2.19 ERA, 2.20 GO/AO ratio. Definitely a small sample size, but he’s looking like a stud so far.

http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com

by lemonjello on Jul 1, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Guess The Yankee's Need Another Arod.

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by cwhitman412 on Jul 1, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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