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What to make of Ben Zobrist?

After tonight's game, 1-4 with a Grand Slam, he now is hitting .302 with 10 HR, 32 RBI, and an OPS well over 1.000 in 132 AB. I went back through this site and saw that John Sickels had him ranked I believe #5 in the Houston system in 2005, and #8 in 2006. He called him a sleeper prospect and a possible Bill Meuller type. However, he never seemed to rank that highly overall as a prospect.

Looking at his minor league numbers, he never seemed to hit for much power, but always seemed to have great plate discipline, walking more than he struck out at each level.

My question to the community, is this breakout so far for real, and what should we expect from him going forward. Thanks.

 

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A career year for a nice role player

Nothing wrong with that. But this is over his head in the long run.

by aap212 on Jun 4, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

that's a reasonable hypothesis aap

but there is an alternate account. this story tells about zobrist going to a new swing mechanic that changed his approach drastically:

http://www.draysbay.com/2009/4/23/849233/cracking-the-zobrist-code-what-is

so maybe this change is for real (at least part of it)

what do you all think?

by son.of.sourman on Jun 4, 2009 12:42 AM EDT reply actions  

zboy

Well he has been raking since the end of 2008. A lot of is due to his approach at the plate progressing to where it is now. Though I’m not sure I buy into this power, even though its been a good 3/4 months now.

by hybrid on Jun 4, 2009 1:30 AM EDT reply actions  

always liked him

thought that was a steal of a deal when it was made. Granted, that was because i was quite high on mitch talbot, who has stalled a bit at AAA. I did like Zobrist, though. Thought he had a chance to be a regular. I’m not sure what to make of this power, though. Obviously, maintaining this rate is rather unlikely, but can he maintain plus power? I have my doubts, but I think he could probably put up, say, Mark DeRosa like numbers as a regular.

by toonsterwu on Jun 4, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions  

unexpected power

It seems Bartlett and Zobrist have both found new HR power this season. It will be interesting to see if they both can keep this up.
Now with Joyce joining the fray, they make for a fun bunch of young talent to watch.

2009; John Lester becomes an ace?

by bodyiq on Jun 4, 2009 6:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Rays fan/watcher

As someone who watches just about every Rays game, I can tell you I believe Zobrist is for real. He’s got 22 bombs in his last 330 AB’s, I don’t think that pace will continue though. However, he has en excellent eye, he’s hitting fewer ground balls, he’s not been particularly lucky (or unlucky), he’s swinging less at balls outside the strikezone, making more contact when he does swing outside the zone. Everything you would like to see develop over a couple year period, he’s doing.

And just from watching him, he’s bigger, filled out, compared to the skinny guy he was when he first debuted. He hammers fastballs inside, particularly from the left side of the plate. His homers don’t scrape the back of the fence, they seem to always be pretty deep into the stands.

I think we are seeing maybe an 18 month to two year period of his best play, but he’ll settle in as a 20-25 homer guy, .280/.370/.500 for a couple years.

by spidurfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Increased power

I think what’s got everyone question Zobrist (and Bartlett) is that they both came up with this power unexpectedly in their late 20’s. What is the precedence for that?

by Lunkwill Fook on Jun 4, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

There's power peaking....

…and then there’s power coming from out of nowhere.

by Lunkwill Fook on Jun 4, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

I was going to point out that he was hitting for power last year, but then i looked at his minor league track record and he’s never hit for power prior to that, ever.

Not sure where it came from, but he’s sustained it for about 350abs

Carlos Quentin's time has arrived.

by Team Moneyball on Jun 7, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if he can sustain it, good for him. He truly would be an outlier. A player us scouting geeks will remember for a while.

by Lunkwill Fook on Jun 8, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Comparable to Youkilis

Occasionally there are those guys with great, great plate discipline who can add power to their game at the major league level. Kevin Youkilis was one of these guys, never hitting more than 8 home runs in a minor league season, hitting 13 and 16 homers in his first two seasons respectively, then bashing 29 last season and finding himself on pace for around 30 this season. It’s not like Zobrist flashed any less doubles power than Youk in the minors either. Add in that Zobrist is by no means a little guy, and I think this power is probably legit.

I don’t think that Bartlett’s is though.

by Fanon on Jun 4, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Always been a big Zobrist fan

Even if he never hit for power, I thought he was a guy with good OBA skills who could play all over the field, and although not an exceptional defender, would make the routine plays. The fact he is now hitting for power makes him a VERY valuable guy to have.

Do you stick him at one position or do you keep moving him around?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 4, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I have no idea where the power came from.

I mean, he changed his swing and his approach completely last season, so there is that, but this is just absurd. Is he going to continue to SLG north of .650? No. But his power is very much legit. He hits everything hard. I’ve never seen a transformation more dramatic than he made, but his plate discipline and power are both very much for real. Legit 30 home run power.

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by Tyler on Jun 4, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

He has always had a big, lanky, athletic frame

and now that he has filled it out a little I can see where some of the power is coming from.

by nms on Jun 4, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Especially considering he’s always had great pitch recognition, so it’s just a matter of combining his body with his skills.

by Fanon on Jun 4, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

susan sarandan?

It was Durham after all. way too old. Even in the ’80s.

But i am sure she was hotter than tabata’s wife.

by wobatus on Jun 4, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But Tabata’s wife is WILD. Like, stealing babies wild.

by Fanon on Jun 4, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

well-preserved. Must be the lemons she used in “Atlantic City”.

by wobatus on Jun 5, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

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