Daric Barton?
by fuzzy14eva on Jun 20, 2009 1:47 PM EDT
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Thoughts? I think he's going to settle in at first to start 2010 off.
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Barton is gonna have some competition very soon.
With Doolittle and Carter knock on the door soon Barton better impress or he will be pushed aside.
"Their Triple-A rotation, led by Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson, could be better than some big-league rotations; Michael Ynoa is the best Latin American prospect of the decade; 2008 draftees Jemile Weeks and Rashun Dixon bring much-needed tools to an advanced group of hitters." - BaseballProspectus.com
Well
He better start impressing in AAA before anything else. Barton seems to be a bit of a headcase. Talent has gotten him to AAA. Is he willing to work hard enough to force himself on to the Big Club?
by Colorado Fan on Jun 20, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I loved Barton as a prospect.
Great understanding of the strike zone. Decent power to average power. Good defense at 1st. Was young for every level he was at. I just dont know what happened to that guy.
"Their Triple-A rotation, led by Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson, could be better than some big-league rotations; Michael Ynoa is the best Latin American prospect of the decade; 2008 draftees Jemile Weeks and Rashun Dixon bring much-needed tools to an advanced group of hitters." - BaseballProspectus.com
He was always overrated.
He was a never thought of as a plus defender while in the minors, and many were surprised he was while in the majors. Sample size or bad scouting? Who knows. But he never had decent-to-average power. He did have below average power (never hit more than 13 HR in any season as a pro). Sure his plate disciple was great, but that can’t make up for the huge negative of next to no power. When teams can find a big slugger and hide their defensive liabilities at 1B, why would you put a no-power having 1B there?
Adam Dunn: Proof that even sabermetrics doesn't have it right.
He has played Great D at 1st
and if he could keep a 390OBP he would be fine.
"Their Triple-A rotation, led by Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson, could be better than some big-league rotations; Michael Ynoa is the best Latin American prospect of the decade; 2008 draftees Jemile Weeks and Rashun Dixon bring much-needed tools to an advanced group of hitters." - BaseballProspectus.com
He also wasn't a first baseman the whole time.
A lot of being bad defensively, I think, was learning a new position.
And I also think a lot of the low power was (at least thought to be) because he was so young for his leagues. He still could develop some power, though I’m not sure if he will.
by thejd44 on Jun 21, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
It's a shame we signed Giambi to block him
I’ve been against that from the start.
Solace: Law says he's a fourth OFer
PaulThomas: I think Keith Law is only a fourth analyst
Signing a 38 year old Giambi
wasn’t really a great move, but that has nothing to do with blocking Barton. He isn’t good.
Billy Beane had a terrible offseason
Mostly filled with shit that just didn’t make sense. He signed Giambi who projected to be about 1 WABarton, and Cabrera who didn’t project to be ANY better than Crosby (at least not in my world). What a waste of $10 million.
by thejd44 on Jun 21, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Cabrera vs. Crosby
Cabrera actually looked like a 1+ win over Crosby coming into the season. They seemed to be about even, perhaps a little in favor of Cabrera in terms of offense, but Cabrera’s glovework according to UZR had been incredible and a huge upgrade Crosby. In 2008, he was worthy nearly an extra 2 1/2 wins over Crosby.
It was a gamble considering Cabrera’s age and shaky offense, but the hope was that he could maintain it enough to provide a good push for the A’s. Obviously that has not happened, but both players were worth a shot for the A’s this year.
Really, apart from Kurt Suzuki and Adam Kennedy in May, the A’s have been plagued by underperformers. Along with Giambi and Cabrera underperforming their projections, Sweeney is worse offensively than he was last year (from .328 wOBA to .286). Garciaparra had a similar drop in wOBA while Cust has gone from .371 to .331. And while no one expected Holliday to put up an OPS over 1.000, his OPS this year (.792 right now) is not even close to his road OPS last year (.891).
The truth is, trading an OPS of .634 (C. Gonzalez) for .891 (Holliday’s road stats) to go along with the 3.5 wins from Giambi and Cabrera and another win from Nomar (hopefully), should have provided the A’s the boost they needed to challenge the Angels. Instead, everyone is underperforming their projections and the A’s are stuck in last place. It was a solid gamble, it just didn’t work.
by nobodyinparticular on Jun 21, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
You know
The success of Ben Zobrist and Kevin Youkilis makes me think that he might have more of a shot than we’re giving him credit for.
+1
The guy is 23 and had a tough rookie season. Needs to be given more AB to figure things out.
Barton
Three points about Daric Barton
1) He is way too young to give up on
2) The fact that he controls the strike zone means he has a reasonable chance to make the adjustments he needs to make and develop his power.
3) That doesn’t mean he will. See Sean Burroughs.
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