2009 Amateur Draft Mock #3 Round One
Not a whole lot of changes here this week, mostly at the top. There are some changes starting in the second half. The top 15 are exactly the same as last week, mainly due to the fact that no one had huge, or horrible, performances over the past week. Here you go:
1. Washington - Steven Strasburg, RHP, San Diego State - No change here. Strasburg had his worst start, but when it's a quality start with twice as many strikeouts as innings pitched, you're pretty good. Previously: #1.
2. Seattle - Dustin Ackley, 1B/CF, North Carolina - Another weekend, another couple of innings in center field. The more he plays out there, the more likely he is to become the top prospect behind Strasburg. Previously: #2.
3. San Diego - Alex White, RHP, North Carolina - He didn't have a great start, but neither did anyone else behind him. I'd have to think San Diego is still deciding between White and Grant Green, and Aaron Crow could enter that equation with a solid Indy League showing. Previously: #3.
4. Pittsburgh - Grant Green, SS, USC - Green committed a fielding error over the weekend, and also had a few struggles at the plate on Saturday, but overall had a decent weekend. Had he done what was expected of him against Washington State, he'd be in the third slot. Previously: #4.
5. Baltimore - Aaron Crow, RHP, Ft. Worth Cats - I'm really surprised that I haven't heard as much about Crow as I have about Tanner Scheppers this Spring. Hopefully that means Crow is going about his business and preparing himself for a quick Indy League debut, followed by a quick signing and extended affiliated pro ball debut. Previously: #5.
6. San Francisco - Tyler Matzek, LHP, Capistrano Valley HS (CA) - Matzek keeps going about his business as the most polished prep pitcher in the 2009 class. He'll be just fine as a top ten pick. Previously: #6.
7. Atlanta - Zack Wheeler, RHP, East Paulding HS (GA) - Just to give you some confirmation that he's being considered this high, BA reported Brian Sabean took in a Wheeler start personally last week. GMs usually only take in games of players they genuinely consider at their slot, and the Giants' slot is one higher than here at number seven. Previously: #7.
8. Cincinnati - Kyle Gibson, RHP, Missouri - Gibson had his worst start of the year, but apparently was battling through less than stellar fastball command. He's a pure command pitcher, so that's concerning, but the fact that he almost finished the seventh inning on a night where he had inconsistent stuff can be a bit encouraging. Previously: #8.
9. Detroit - Donovan Tate, OF, Cartersville HS (GA) - Tate will take an overslot bonus, and Atlanta will almost certainly not do that. Detroit's not afraid of overspending for a quality player, even a prep player. Good enough fit for me. Previously: #9.
10. Washington - Rich Poythress, 1B, Georgia - I thought I'd be changing this slot every week, but this is really just making too much sense. Maybe I'm just psyching myself into thinking it makes sense. However, Poythress is slowly earning this slot, so maybe that means the Nationals won't be able to afford him here. Previously: #10.
11. Colorado - Mike Leake, RHP, Arizona State - Leake threw a complete game, allowing only a run on five hits, and he struck out seven. What more would you want from a college pitcher with an established track record? Maybe 14 strikeouts like Strasburg. Previously: #11.
12. Kansas City - Shelby Miller, RHP, Brownwood HS (TX) - Miller touched 95 on the gun in his last start according to Jason Churchill at the ESPN draft blog, striking out 10 in 4 innings. However, there are more and more references showing up to teams maybe preferring Zack Wheeler over Miller. Odd. Previously: #12.
13. Oakland - Rex Brothers, LHP, Lipscomb - Brothers pretty much lost complete control on a bad weekend for college starters. He walked six in four innings, and he also allowed seven hits, totaling six earned runs allowed. Ouch. However, since no one named Mike Leake had a dominating start, he wasn't really hurt. Interesting draft class we have here. Previously: #13.
14. Texas - Matt Purke, LHP, Klein HS (TX) - Purke is someone I'm having trouble placing, but I know he'll be tabbed no later than this slot. His mechanics raise universal concern, but his talent is arguably higher than fellow prospect Tyler Matzek. Man, this draft is hard to predict. Previously: #14.
15. Cleveland - Tanner Scheppers, RHP, St. Paul Saints - Scheppers is close to making his 2009 debut in a game situation, meaning he'll start moving very quickly either up or down the board. I'm on the side that thinks he'll go up, and he might supplant Kyle Gibson at #8 with strong showings and more Gibson starts that include command problems. Previously: #15.
16. Arizona - Tyler Skaggs, LHP, Santa Monica HS (CA) - Skaggs is an interesting guy that could go anywhere in the second half of the first round. I expect the Diamondbacks to go for projectable pitching with one of their two picks here. Previously: #24.
17. Arizona - Andy Oliver, LHP, Oklahoma State - In a rough week for college starters, Oliver showed his natural talent that I think will keep him in the first round. He did so well that I moved him up. He might be a little too expensive for Arizona, who has a lot of picks to sign this year, but it's a good fit nonetheless. Previously: #20.
18. Florida - Mychal Givens, RHP, Plant HS (FL) - I had Jacob Turner at this slot last week, but Turner will need an above-slot bonus, something Florida will not handing out in all likelihood. Givens has the same amount of talent, but with less polish. Florida is patient with development, so this is a possible fit. Previously: #21.
19. St. Louis - Mike Minor, LHP, Vanderbilt - Minor allowed four runs on his Friday start, but also struck out 13 in 7 2/3 innings. Most scouts will look more at the missed bats than the runs, even with college stats, as fielding, umpiring, etc. can influence runs allowed. Minor is really doing his best to make sure he sticks in the first round. Previously: #17.
20. Toronto - James Paxton, LHP, Kentucky - Paxton struck out 11 Alabama hitters and walked just two on Friday night, an encouraging sign that his command is coming back. Paxton's also Canadian, meaning that while this isn't a strong factor for the Blue Jays to take him, it's just one more step towards getting a good fit and good value. Previously: #23.
21. Houston - Luke Bailey, C, LaGrange HS (GA) - While other players are making big cases to move forward, the high school catching crop's continually strong play has lulled some to sleep. That means they might fall a bit in favor of hotter arms. Bailey's still the best, and Houston won't shy away from back-to-back first round catchers. Previously: #16.
22. Minnesota - Max Stassi, C, Yuba City HS (CA) - Stassi's gotten this close to Bailey, and his untangibles will make him very tempting to teams like Minnesota that draft on both tools and makeup. I'm not suggesting Stassi will unseat Joe Mauer, but he's good enough that the Twins will seriously consider moving Mauer permanently to save his health. Previously: #19.
23. Chicago (AL) - Jared Mitchell, OF, LSU - Mitchell's heated back up, and I think he's moved himself back into the first round this week. Mitchell's a really good fit for the White Sox, who like college players with solid tools. I had him here in my first mock. Previously: #34.
24. Los Angeles (AL) - Jacob Turner, RHP, Westminster Christian Academy (MO) - Turner will need an above-slot bonus, and while the Angels have more picks than most, they also have plenty of money. I exspect the Angels to at least come close to breaking the record for a single year draft budget, and someone like Turner should be in their plans. Previously: #18.
25. Los Angeles (AL) - Matt Davidson, 3B, Yucaipa HS (CA) - I've read enough negatives about Davidson that I think he might even slide out of the first round. However, I think the Angels might pick him up based on promise, as his power potential is humongous. Nice value pick here. Previously: #22.
26. Milwaukee - Mike Trout, OF, Millville HS (NJ) - I'm having a lot of trouble reading anything negative about Trout, as both scouts and other writers seem to love this kid. He really helps himself by becoming buddies with scouts, and I think he won't last past the end of the first round. Previously: #25.
27. Seattle - Madison Younginer, RHP, Mauldin HS (SC) - While some writeups say Younginer will end up as a power bullpen arm, I think that's not an issue for teams drafting this far down. Even if Seattle has to move him to the bullpen, I think they'd be happy with a kid who could eventually hit triple digits. Previously: #27.
28. Boston - Tim Wheeler, OF, Sacramento State - This makes a lot of sense, but as with the Poythress pick above, I think I might be convincing myself that something makes more sense than it does. He's the best college center fielder regardless, and he'll go before the supplemental round. Previously: #28.
29. New York (AL) - Kyle Heckathorn, RHP, Kennesaw State - He has a big arm, and while the Yankees could easily go prep here, I think they like Heckathorn's long term potential combined with his polish. Nice pick here. Previously: #31.
30. Tampa Bay - Wil Myers, C, Wesleyan Christian Academy - I'm a little shocked by how much helium this kid has. The more I read on him, the more I think he belongs right up there with Bailey and Stassi as the best prep catchers. However, he can play almost any position, and Tampa Bay values that kind of athleticism. Previously: #50.
31. Chicago (NL) - Jiovanni Mier, SS, Bonita HS (CA) - His draft position is pretty consistent, but it just depends who wants him more. He's the best pure prep shortstop without much argument, and the Cubs would love to find that kind of talent this late in the first. Previously: #33.
32. Colorado - AJ Pollock, OF, Notre Dame - Pollock's floating around a lot, but his skillset is still pretty nice. The Rockies like their college guys, especially this late where they'll want someone to sign to slot. Previously: #41.
That's it for this week. What do you guys think? Not enough movement?
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Andy
its awesome that you do this for us, but it seems like doing them so close together means that there isn’t a lot of change from week to week. if you have the time and energy to do this, perhaps you could do biweekly mocks and then supplement those with more indepth blurbs analyzing the specific reasons certain players moving up or down the rankings during the weeks between your mocks.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
does your signature
refer to the Kyle Nicholson who went to A&M?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Doing it week to week has its own advantages.
When I see a report that a player performed well in a single week in front of a number of scouts, especially scouting directors, crosscheckers, or even GMs, their performance in that one game, or weekend is much more important than what they do in a two week span. Those kind of reports surface on a week-to-week basis around this time, which is why I’ve chosen to do these weekly. It also gives people, including myself, a chance to get a handle on which prospects deserve legitimate placement at spots based on consistent play rather than a good weekend followed by a bad weekend, etc.
These mocks are purely for fun, but I do like the blurb idea. Thanks for the input.
Younginer
Do you really think the Mariners will use a first round draft pick on a potential bullpen arm for the fourth draft in a row? Especially when it’s a high school kid? It seems like they have far more glaring needs than that.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
He's not universally considered a bullpen arm.
It’s just that some people think he won’t have the durability. With conditioning work and a slight cleanup of his mechanics, he’ll grow into being a starter. He’ll just need to handled carefully his first couple of years in the pros. I’d worry more that some team will mishandle him than worry that his long-term projection might be as a bullpen ace. There are a good number of prep starters that some thought would need to be moved to the bullpen long-term that turned out to be effective starters with good coaching and a consistent development program. The Braves consistently do this better than anyone.
Andy I don't see the Twins Passing on Jacob Turner
In this particular scenerio especially with the HUGE run on pitchers if Turner fell to the Twins at 22 I think they take him…
I like OF Mitchell back in round 1.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 28, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
They'd pass over Turner for money reasons.
Turner will be signing one of the richest deals in this draft or no deal at all. He’s a UNC commit and a Boras client, so someone that goes above slot will have to take him. Same reason I passed Donovan Tate over the Braves at #7. All things being equal, I’d have the Marlins taking him over Givens at #18, like I had in my last mock. However, I’m seeing more and more signs that point to Turner possibly going the way of Matt Harvey and basically being unsignable, falling out of the first round altogether.
Tate
Why do you think no one in the top 5 will take Tate? He has the best tools of any prospect since Justin Upton. If he is committed to playing pro ball full time, I really can’t see an argument for taking Ackley, Green, or any pitcher not named Strasburg ahead of him. He is the legit 5 tool CF that scouts dream of.
Can you explain your thought process on not having him go off the board earlier?
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club
He has the best tools of any prospect since Justin Upton.
This is scouting hyperbole. He’s not even close to touching Upton, and Tim Beckham is far superior to Tate as well from everything I’ve seen about the two. Tate only receives the hype he does because he’s the best prep position prospect in this draft. He has contact issues and pitch recognition issues, something the Uptons and Beckham didn’t really have as much in high school.
A Keith Law quote for you:
Tate doesn’t have the same explosive talent or potential to speed to the majors as the Uptons did as high school seniors.
I take Ackley, Green, White, and Crow above Tate due to the fact that they have much better chances to turn into something great. Tate’s the type of prep position prospect that can really flame out. He has all the talent to be something special, but he’s not one of those can’t miss prep players.
Lastly, signability is a huge concern with Tate, as his UNC commitment and Boras connection scream big bonus. I’d guess he’s looking for something in the $4-5 million range, something he honestly doesn’t deserve. I don’t think he goes to school, but someone who’s willing to invest a lot in a big risk will take him. Atlanta’s not taking him for monetary reasons, and I think San Francisco and Cincinnati will go other directions if they have guys like Matzek and Gibson still on the board. Anyone taking Tate will need to be patient and just simply hope for the best.
by Andy Seiler on Apr 28, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Skaggs
Also what are your thoughts on Skaggs? It seems like you feel he’s more of a 15-30 pick guy, but I could see a team taking him earlier than that (possibly 8-12 range, maybe KC?) due simply due his size and projectability. An argument could be made that he’s the most projectable HS arm in the class, and the fact he’s a southpaw doesn’t hurt. Thoughts?
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club
He's definitely a projectable guy.
I like him, but when a lot of your draft profile relies on projectability, you’re not really a top 10 guy. Matzek and Purke are on the step right above him as far as prep lefties, and I’d say that with all three fulfilling their potential, Purke would be #1, Matzek and Skaggs about equal. Matzek’s the superior prospect, because he’s generally considered more polished than any other prep pitcher. I’d agree with that statement. When you jump into the 8-12 range, he’s also competing with another polished product, Zack Wheeler, and a righty that has the highest ceiling of any pitcher not named Strasburg in this draft, Shelby Miller. Miller’s arm wins far and away against Skaggs, and even with the left-handedness thrown in, I like Miller. Wheeler’s just got so much helium, I would doubt he goes behind Skaggs, too.
So really, Skaggs has been competing against a pretty nice crop of high school pitchers, and he’s pretty clearly a second-tier guy in the first round when compared to them. He’s had some consistency issues, and he just needs to get innings under his belt. There’s a decent chance he busts in the pros, with command being his weakness from time to time, so people will shy away from that early on. I’d personally pick him behind Matzek, Purke, Miller, and Wheeler, but before Givens, Turner, and Younginer. Not every team wants high school pitchers, so cross them off the board, and you’ve got a nice prep prospect in the second half of the first round.
by Andy Seiler on Apr 28, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Jared Mitchell
I think Mitchell to the White Sox is a good fit given that Kenny Williams has reportedly been scouting speedy outfielders. How much do you worry about his ability to hit though? His K rate is pretty high and I hear breaking pitches give him fits, that could make for a slow transition to pro ball. He’s an unbelievable athlete though no doubt about that.
He's the type of guy where the light will turn on after 700 PAs in the minors.
A year of slow going followed by a year where we remember his name. His plate discipline isn’t really that bad, it’s that he’s a little less agressive than most college prospects. He’ll walk a lot and strike out a lot no matter where he goes, so I’m not overly concerned with him. It’s his ability to actually hit for average, though the average matters less than the slugging and OBP, that I worry about. He gets too deep, and even though he has nice raw power, he’s forced to dink and dunk a little too much. A good hitting coach will find a balance for him without making him overly aggressive one would hope. He’ll steal his share of bases, though he’s not overly efficient there, and he’s a corner outfielder, so he’s one of the better college outfield prospects around this year.
If I’m a GM picking in the second half of the first round, I’m going to really be tempted to pick him as high as #16 for Arizona. Cleveland might even be in on him if history tells us something. His cold streak against quality pitching was what temporarily brought him out of my first round mock last week, but I think he’s in here to stay. I wouldn’t be surprised for him to one up all of the other college hitting prospects the rest of the way. He’s that good.
by Andy Seiler on Apr 28, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Scouting hyperbole is a bit extreme. I’ve heard Law’s comments, but honestly he’s not at the top of my list when I am looking for prep evaluations. The guys at BA and PGCrosschecker have raved about Tate’s tools and upside, and the majority of the scouts are right there with them. If you look at Tate’s body and then watch him play, I don’t see how you can come away with the fact that he is behind Beckham; I really don’t see any tools that Beckham will definitely end up ahead of Tate when they both hit their peak.
Tate has a very powerful arm, a very powerful bat, and is very fast – he’s going to be a vacuum in center. Given that he’s devoted at best half his time to baseball, I really think the sky is the limit for him, and I guarantee he ends up as a top 5 pick and draws comps to Upton and Maybin by the time June rolls around. His talent is obvious when you watch him play.
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club
meant for above
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club
You're entitled to your opinions.
I just disagree. He’s not on the level of Tim Beckham. If he was, he’d be an undisputed #2, and every single scout interview I’ve seen says something along the lines of the fact that there’s no clear #2.
And to your points about his tools, Tate’s arm is above-average, but not truly plus. It’s good for center. As for his fielding, he’s going to need real work on his routes, as do most prep outfielders, but until he does so, calling him a vacuum in center is a little misleading. You can rely on speed and athleticism more at the level he’s at now, but you can’t do that roving a ML outfield. In addition, while he’s very fast, he’s not a great baserunner, and he’ll need extensive work on reading pitchers to develop into a huge basestealing threat. Once again, this is fairly normal for prep outfielders, but puts him behind the Uptons quite easily and a step behind Tim Beckham.
Finally, here’s another quote, this from his MLB.com draft profile (which aren’t always great, but it can convey general opinion pretty well):
Weaknesses: His hittability. There are some concerns about his bat.
Also:
He doesn’t quite have the feel for the game that last year’s No. 1 pick Tim Beckham had.
This report was filed after a game in March, so it’s not like it’s a year old, either. Just telling you there’s other opinions out there, and they’re just as valid as yours. Thanks for the input, though. Nice to get another opinion on a draft prospect.
by Andy Seiler on Apr 28, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're right...
…about the Padres looking at Green and the 2 Tar Heels but I do not think they are seriously considering Crow (unless something drastic happens to 2 of the above).
I could see the Padres taking White, but only if Green was taken #2. If Green’s on the board at 3, he’s a Padre.
Crow enters the equation with a good Indy Ball showing.
At this moment, he’s fairly clearly behind the three you mention.
Here’s a question you might be able to answer: Will the Padres be able to afford Green, who as a Boras client will want somewhere around $5 million, maybe even a ML contract? That’s a big concern for me when I’m slotting these guys.
by Andy Seiler on Apr 28, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
A's pick
Do you really think that the A’s would pick Brothers ahead of Purke? I know Purke has one or two issues but he is probably the most talented lefthander in the draft and a previous top 5 pick. With the A’s not picking again until #90 they are likely going to want to get maximum talent out of this pick. They nearly took Aaron Hicks #12 overall last year if he would have agreed to pitch fulltime so they are not afraid to take a prep pitcher this high.
Thanks alot for doing all of this!
I think I touched on this in my first round mock last week.
Brothers is the more polished version of Purke. All things being equal, and considering the fact that Purke might demand a slightly over-slot bonus, I think the A’s pick Brothers over Purke, and they’ll also be considering Tanner Scheppers there, as well.
by Andy Seiler on Apr 29, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Blue Jays
Studying their tendencies, I am fairly certain that, unless they have scouting opinions vastly different to freely available information (always possible), the Jays select a college arm in the first round, and likely with 2 of their first 3 picks. With the Jays’ difficulty filling the seats at many games, and the buzz that usually follows Canadians on the team, I think Paxton works from both a (n arguably) best player available standpoint as well as a potential future marketing draw.
Also – re the Nats’ second pick here – I can see them taking a different route than Poythress – either another helium arm (Leake) or an athlete type (betcha Mitchell will be an easy sign with some high upside) – food for thought – it’s really tough to say how Rizzo will handle his first draft from the GM chair.
Again – thanks for doing this – look forward to the supplemental and 2nd rounds
by ofsticksandbats on Apr 29, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions
Thanks for the input.
I’ve had a lot of trouble filling the Nats’ #10 slot, mainly because as soon as I put Poythress in that slot, he started hitting like he deserved to be there. Slot will probably be somewhere around $1.9 million, but I’m guessing they’d rather spend somewhere closer to $1 million. I don’t think Poythress signs for that. I’ll probably put somewhere else there next week.
by Andy Seiler on Apr 29, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
More on the Jays and Canadians
Last year saw 29 Canadian born players drafted. The Jays took four of them (out of 44 total selections).
Michael Crouse (16th round)
Brad McElroy (25th round)
Justin Betts-Robinson (31st round – unsigned)
George Agyapong-Mensah (44th round – unsigned)
They also drafted 3 of the 32 Canadians selected in 2007, 2 of the 15 taken in 2006 and 2 of 18 from 2005.
Clearly, they like to take fliers on some Canadians. If Paxton seems like the BPA at pick 20, I think they wouldn’t hesitate to draft him.
by ofsticksandbats on Apr 29, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
Sam Selman
We gonna see him appear in any of these mocks? My understanding is that his stock is soaring.
He's in the end of my second round this week.
The more I read about his cutter, the more I think he’s going to go pretty high. Since he hasn’t been performing on the level of the higher prep pitchers for as long, I think he’s clearly out of the first and supplemental rounds, but he’s a nice prospect. His Vanderbilt commitment will scare teams, though. Vandy commits are almost universally considered very tough signs. I expect him to be a first round prospect in the 2012 draft after showing a solid commitment to Vandy this summer.
Townsend Stock
Any word on the stock of Tyler Townsend from FIU, tearing it up this year after being MVP in the Valley last summer? Everytime I go to a game, there are scouts everywhere
He's probably gained some ground.
But I don’t think he’s a legit first day prospect. He’s the opposite of a tools player, but I’m sure his results have gotten some attention. He’s in a weak league, and though he controls the zone well and has hit for good power, it’s not like he’s doing what guys like Rich Poythress have done in the SEC. He’s not fast at all, and he hasn’t done as well as some of his teammates in conference play. Considering he’s a junior, and he could go even higher next year with a solid senior season, I might even say he’ll go back to school. Just a thought.
Sean Black
Highest unsigned pick from 2006, went to Seton Hall and is eligible again – I assume he is still draftable, but an guessing that he’ll regret not signing for 2nd rounder money three years ago – thoughts?
by ofsticksandbats on Apr 29, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions
He's really hurt his stock this year.
He has the same sort of question marks about his game that he had three years ago, and that means he’s a second day prospect. After a fast start, he went through a tough time, but he’s got time to make it up. He does walk too many people, and he’s fairly hittable, so he’s pretty much a 4th-7th round guy if you ask me where he stands today. Could move a little, but it’d take a monster finish to make any considerable noise.
Luke Bailey
Just had Tommy John. This should impact his draft status severely. He may still go in the second or third, but I highly doubt anyone would pop him in the first round anymore. I could now see him going to college if he doesn’t get paid like he would have without the injury
by ofsticksandbats on Apr 30, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
Yep, saw that this morning.
I’m 90% sure he’ll go to college, and his commitment is to Auburn. His statement earlier this year was basically that he was a sure sign if he went in the first. He didn’t say anything about what would happen if he fell.

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