Adam Miller - major surgery again
by doublestix on Apr 25, 2009 1:15 PM EDT
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CLEVELAND -- Indians right-hander Adam Miller is headed for season-ending surgery on the middle finger of his pitching hand, Tribe head athletic trainer Lonnie Soloff said Friday.
Soloff said the career-threatening surgery to rebuild the pulley system in his finger has a recovery time of six to nine months. Miller tried to work through the injury and avoid surgery even though he couldn't bend the tip of his finger.
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Will Carroll at BP said its not really career threatening
and he doesnt understand why people keep saying that.
Fwiw.
by alskor on Apr 25, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How can it
be career threatening? Don’t you need to have a career in order for it to be threatened?
by kershaw_equals_stud on Apr 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
very funny.
Adam Miller has all the potential in the world, but his only problem has been his health. I have alot of respect for his determination and his work ethic. He was so close to the majors, so hopefully everything will go fine.
by JP_Frost on Apr 25, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh
Figuring he’s probably made more money the last 5 years than you’ll make in your entire life… I’d have to say he qualifies as having a career.
by slurve on Apr 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
X
Figuring he’s probably made more money the last 5 years than you’ll make in your entire life
Figuring the writer should have chosen a different career. How do you know how much money someone else on minorleagueball.com has made? Cmon.
by nivarsity on Apr 26, 2009 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YZ
It’s called thinking, try it sometime. Since being drafted, Adam Miller has made over 1.5 million dollars. The amount of the population that has made that much in that time is less than 1%. I also used the word “probably” since it was inevitable that some douche would make a post containing “how do you know how much so and so makes…” therefore I’m figuring your career doesn’t involve reading comprehension (in addition to employing critical thinking skills).
Now getting back to my original point, if Adam Miller has made more money than most American’s will make in their lifetime, how is that not a career?
by slurve on Apr 26, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Q & A
Q: If Adam Miller has made more money than most American’s will make in their lifetime, how is that not a career?
A: Your point rests on the equation money = career, which is incorrect.
Career doesn’t mean a lump sum of cash, or else we’d be talking about the successful careers of lottery winners and one-hit wonders like Vanilla Ice. The term career is derived from riding horses, referring to the course that is run, and has eventually come to mean something close to the “course of a working life.” It means someone who productively works in a particular field over an extended course of time; think your local family practitioner, or Dr. Dre, or professional hitter Matt Stairs.
Adam Miller hasn’t had a career yet because he has yet to really enter the course of his career, hasn’t had the opportunity to carve out his niche.
You can compare his income to the average American’s, but that is apples and oranges. You may as well argue that a fifteen year old boy with a paper route has had a successful career simply because he’s made more money than the average cat.
The comparison to make is with Miller’s assumed peers, the highly regarded prospects that emerged at the same time that he did. Of course, it’s not a call that can ultimately be made for another 5 to 10 years.
by gogotabata on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
B & S
Horseshit. He has made a better living than the vast majority of people living in the one of the planets richest economies. If I can work at a job for 5 years and earn enough that I don’t ever have to work again, no matter what my trade is, I call it a successful career. That career may or may not be over at this point, but just because he didn’t become a journeyman pitcher in the majors doesn’t exclude him from having a career. Joe Borchard – another successful career. His career wasn’t playing baseball or football, it was laughing all the way to the bank.
by slurve on Apr 26, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yay
It’s “invent your own meaning for words day”!
by gogotabata on Apr 26, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh... no
What do you people smoke before coming here? I know what career means, apparently you do not. Here it is from Merriam-Webster as it pertains to Adam Miller’s life as a baseball player: : a field for or pursuit of consecutive progressive achievement especially in public, professional, or business life <Washington’s career as a soldier>
Let’s break that down for the not-so-sharp members of the audience, shall we?
a field – professional athlete.
pursuit of consecutive progressive achievement – In his 5 years, he advanced/progressed from rookie ball, to low-A, to high-A, AA and AAA.
in public, professional, or business life Baseball fits at least two of those areas.
Washington’s career as a soldier – Washington was not a soldier his entire life, just as Miller most likely won’t be a pitcher all of his, yet Washington’s time as a soldier was a CAREER as stated in that fancy dictionary thingy. He also had a career as a planter, surveyor as well as a politician.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
by slurve on Apr 26, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the predictable overheatedness
I thought the 1.5 million was the reason he had a career, now it is his progression from low-A to AAA in five years? Anyway, this whole thing started with someone making a joke that Miller hadn’t had a career to threaten. It was a cheeky comment. I just thought it curious that your initial definition of career (1.5 million dollars) seemed to have nothing to do with the fact that career is defined by duration and not lump sum.
But, as I’m sure you’ll never ever reconsider or revise one of your assertions, I’m willing to play along and accept your definition of career. Of course, your definition also means you should cop to being a career student since (like Miller’s progress through the minors) you advanced from high school freshman to high school senior in five years.
by gogotabata on Apr 26, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
First of all I think it’s a bit of a leap to say a man can live off 1.5 million and never work again. What if he has a family? What if it’s goal to own a home? If he truly cannot pitch again he is going to have to find work elsewhere. That financial windfall will not support him throughout his life.
Secondly your perception of a career is just wrong. Just because he received more money than “the vast majority of people living in the one of the planets richest economies,” does not mean he enjoyed a career as professional pitcher. It means he got paid, has money in the bank and in all likelihood will have to find another JOB.
Who loves orange soda?
by Kenan and Kel on Apr 26, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a leap at all
It’s ENTIRELY possible to live off of 1.5 mil for the rest of your life. You won’t see him on MTV cribs, but he won’t be hurting either as long as he does it wisely. By definition, it is a career. A short career, but a career none-the-less.
by slurve on Apr 26, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not even about money. Adam Miller has been a professional baseball player for 5 years now. That’s a career. He hasn’t reached the top of his career, but to say he’s basically done nothing is BS.
Let’s just hope for the best.
by JP_Frost on Apr 26, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I was using the money to emphasize that not only has he had a career, it was a better career than the vast majority of people ever get to realize. Even if he never makes it farther than he has gotten, he stuck around longer than most players.
by slurve on Apr 26, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1.5 Million
Isn’t as hard to reach as you think it is. At 75K a year, it takes only 20 years to make $1,500,000. I’m a fireman and I should reach that mark in about 10 years and there are 4K other firemen here in Chicago too. I’m sure our cops will make over $1.5mill over the course of their careers too. There’s like 10K of them …
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by WayneCampbell08 on Apr 27, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's different though
Yours is spread out over 20 years – the vast majority of his was rec’d all at once as his signing bonus. He’ll have that 20 years to use that money to make more money. The money part of it is kinda moot anyway. The original comment that started this was a dig at him not having a baseball career, which quite obviously he did unless of course you have a selective definition of the career, which some hear seem to have. All I was trying to say was that it is/was not only a career, but the guy making the dig most likely only wishes he could have a career on that level.
by slurve on Apr 27, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
iv given up on miller
Happiness is only real when shared
by manny59 on Apr 25, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm sure he cares too
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
by flipgatey3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man yet another tough Break for him
I think the Indians were really wanting to count on him this year in June July or August
He could of helped their bullpen out and possibly even be given a spot start occasionally.
Tough, tough, tough I think Miller may never pan out now…. thats too bad, again
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 25, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
two things
1. the childish behaivor in some of these threads really blows my mind sometimes. Just let it go people, Jesus.
2. It’s unfortunate that last year they didn’t have success with the surgery on his finger, and now they have to give it another shot with a different but similar surgery. I hope Miller can come back and pitch next year. The good news is, these are not arm injuries and his shoulder and elbow should be pretty well rested from the years of finger injuries he’s sustained. So I guess we wait another year to see if he can pan out. All is still not lost, although it may seem that way because everyone who loves prospects expects them all to become superstars immediately
by loop on Apr 27, 2009 1:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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