Buster Posey
What is the time table for Buster Posey. He's ripping up high A right now for San Jose, and frankly i see no reason for him to have to sit and wait his chance at the big leagues. He is clearly a good hitter and given the Giants track record I think he should get pushed to the show rather quickly. Given there horrible offense it seems way to logical for the giants to bring him up. Thoughts?
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the Giants have Molina, who is producing in the middle of their lineup. To bring up Posey to replace him, they’d essentially be replacing one of their only bats. Molina is a free agent after this season, and there is a chance the Giants would re-sign him after this year. Obviously, a 1-year deal would be ideal in that situation, just to hold down the job until Posey arrives.
but if something happened to Molina this year, either an injury or he is traded, Pablo Sandoval would get he playing time at catcher. That would allow the Giants to bring up someone from AAA, like Dallas McPherson or Jesus Guzman to play 3b, though they’d just as likely stick Juan Uribe or or Rich Aurilia over there, to the dismay of baseball fans everywhere (except LA).
In any event, there’s really no reason to rush Posey up to the Majors and get his clock started while the team still stinks. Let him get some professional at bats under his belt. He’ll likely be moved up to AA and possibly AAA this season and could potentially get a September call-up. My guess, though, is that the team will wait until May or June 2010 before calling him up so as to slow his service time clock and control him longer, just like the Orioles are doing with Matt Wieters.
Also, he’s still learning to catch and has had some passed ball problems so far in his short minor league career. The Giants want him to log more games behind the dish before bringing him up, despite his advanced bat.
He’s also been working with Madison Bumgarner and Tim Alderson, the team’s top 2 pitching prospects who are also slated to get promotions to AA this summer and the Giants, I’m sure, would like Posey to be familiar with those guys, especially.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 23, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
Molina is their cleanup hitter. He’s horribly miscast in the role, but he’s the best they’ve got. At best it would probably be a lateral move that would eat up service time when the team isn’t going to contend.
by Fanon on Apr 23, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right. the Giants have a lineup with nearly all 6-8 hitters, so someone has to hit cleanup and Molina has done as well as could be expected in that slot. His defense is also underrated and the Giants would likely be giving up some defense to start Posey over him at this point in time. In any event, Molina has done nothing to lose his job.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 23, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although
I would endorse the Giants going ahead and shopping Molina, cleanup hitter or not. They’re awful either way, he’s a free agent at the end of the year, his deal is pretty affordable, and someone always needs catching. Even if Posey isn’t ready yet, you can give Sandoval a fair number of ABs there, grooming him for a super utility role. I kind of feel like Molina’s talents are wasted on the Giants, despite batting cleanup, as he’s the perfect complimentary starter for a contending team. My Mets would certainly do well to pick him up right now, and there is a range of other teams who could use him if their guys don’t start hitting soon.
by Fanon on Apr 24, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Bengie, but if the Giants can get something decent for him in a trade, they should totally do it. Given his weight and past injury issues, the Giants would do well to sell high on him.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 24, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even see it as selling high
There are a lot of teams he could help, with his defense, his game calling ability, and his solid bat out of the seven spot.
by Fanon on Apr 24, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Bengie is going to be re-signed
but I’m basing that off of Sabean’s “clock is winding down” comment, when he was talking about Bengie.
by superk1ng on Apr 24, 2009 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I basically agree, but I wouldn’t rule it out if it was a 1-year reasonable money deal, and Bengie is still healthy.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 24, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no reason for that
He can help other teams more and once you sign him you make it tougher to bring up Posey if he’s tearing the cover off the ball.
by Fanon on Apr 24, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
keith law said he might be promoted this weekend due to the warmer weather in the east
by Bravesin07 on Apr 23, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The plan
With Tim Alderson, the plan was to promote him to AA Connecticut as soon as the weather warmed. Tim had the lowest ERA in the California League last season, so there was no need for him to repeat. Madison Bumgarner has been lights out in his three starts for San Jose, allowing only one earned run, so it would seem he would either join Alderson in moving on up to the East side or soon follow.
The Giants promoted Steve Decker as manager of Class A San Jose to AA Connecticut. Last year the Giants kept Pablo Sandoval in San Jose well after it was obvious Pablo had solved Cal League pitching, so that he could continue to develop his defense behind the plate with Decker. One would think the plan would be to promote Posey to AA soon.
Buster should be ready to replace Bengie Molina behind the plate in 2010. As has been noted here already, Bengie will become a free agent at the end of the season. He has stated that he would like to remain with the Giants, but unfortunately they wouldn’t seem to need him after this season, particularly with their youth movement firmly in place.
It is conceivable the Giants would trade Bengie at the trade deadline if they could get value for him. They could give added experience to Posey and/or Pablo Sanoval behind the dish. But more likely may be that the Giants will hold on to Bengie and hope to get compensation if he leaves as a free agent. As possible protection for Posey, they could offer Bengie arbitration, knowing he would likely prefer a contract beyond one year and that the Giants would likely prefer to have one or both of their young catchers behind the plate.
If Buster plays as well as I think he will, I have to believe the Giants will wind up trading Sandoval. Left-handed hitting catchers are a scarce luxury, and Pablo is even a switch hitter (as well as a switch-thrower, since he first threw left-handed before switching to his right hand so he could play more positions). Even though he can play both corners and is actually a pretty decent first baseman (who could switch to playing left-handed if he injured his right arm :), it would seem that Pablo’s greatest value would be behind the plate.
Amazingly for a guy who is throwing with his “off” hand, Pablo finished fourth and third the past two seasons among all minor league catchers in percentage of attempting base stealers thrown out.
An intriguing story about Pablo which was told on the Giants telecast the other night involved the play in which while playing his original (and present) position of third base, Pablo had his glove knocked off by a sharply hit ball that bounded away from him. He raced after the ball, picked it up barehanded with his left hand, and threw the batter/runner out at first base.
Back to Posey, Buster has hit quite well for San Jose. He shows fine plate judgment and discipline and goes well with the pitch, having decent power even to his off field. But one small note of caution. (See, I DO point out the negatives as well as the positives, although I haven’t yet mentioned that Pablo swings at as many balls out of the strike zone as he takes, and can’t hit left-handed pitching.) After striking out only twice in his first 26 at bats this season, Buster has fanned in 9 of his last 28 trips.
by sharksrog on Apr 24, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our sources indicate Posey will be headed to Fresno...
…although the recent shuffling of Witter to Fresno to replace Holm might make that move intriguing.
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by BruteSentiment on Apr 24, 2009 4:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confused
I figured Buster would move to Connecticut since:
. Timmy Two and presumedly Mad Bum at some point will move there.
. Steve Decker is already there.
. The Giants moved Pablo Sandoval there last season when they could have moved him to Fresno.
So I’m confused. Then again, I was already confused as to why the Giants didn’t give Pablo Sandoval more time behind the plate in spring training. I guess it was so he could concentrate on improving at thitrd base. Then again, why did they move him away from third base catch and play first base to begin with if concentrating solely on one position is so important?
Also, if the Giants are going to trade Pablo — which assuming he hits as many Giants fans thought he would, would seem to be likely in the long run in order to maximize their return — wouldn’t his top value be as a catcher, albeit perhaps one with the versatiity to play either corner if needed?
I would think that if Pablo really hits, his top value would be in trade. If he hits OK but not great, perhaps his best value would be backing up each of the three positions he plays.
But if he really hits, catchers who bat left-handed are almost always at a premium.
by sharksrog on Apr 26, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One other thing to consider...
While Posey can hit, he is still learning not just to play catcher, but to handle the playcalling. This is his first full season calling pitches. I know some disagree, but I believe that the battery is one of the most cerebral areas of the game, and Posey, if he is to be someone that will be one of the faces of the Giants franchise for years, will need to master that.
I do not believe we will see Posey in the majors until late August at the earliest, no matter the fate of Molina.
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by BruteSentiment on Apr 24, 2009 5:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pitch calling
I agree with your comment here, but doesn’t it make the apparent Giants decision to move Buster to Fresno instead of Connecticut all the more questionable?
Buster went 2-for-5 for San Jose last night, including a key two-run double in the Giants’ four-run outburst in the second inning, leading to a 5-3 win. Perhaps more importantly, he broke an uncharaceristic string of 10 strikeouts in 8 games. Buster now fashions a 1.063 OPS, and his dozen strikeouts on the season are nearly matched by his 11 walks.
Buster leads the Little Giants with 6 doubles, and is tied for second in homers at 3 with Angel Villalona and Thomas Neal (who hit his third last night to start the rally). Brandon Crawford leads the team in homers with 5, as well as with his .381 batting average, his .473 OBP, his .683 SLG and his 1.156 OPS.
In addition to being second behind Crawford in homers, Buster is also second at .365, .459 and .603, respectively, as well as with the 1.063 OPS.
Crawford does lead the team with a surprisingly high 22 strikeouts and is fourth in walks with 8, behind Conor Gillaspie’s 14, Darren Ford’s 12 and Posey’s 11. Unfortunately, right behind Crawford in strikeouts are Neal with 21, Nick Noonan with 20 and leadoff hitter Ford with 19.
The Little Giants seems to be loaded with very good hitters, but man do they strike out a lot. Every one of the Giants’ nine regulars (including designated hitter Michael Ambort) has already reached double digits in whiffs.
Yesterday I mentioned seeing Nick Noonan’s making two errors in the same inning. He has only three on the season, so clearly that inning was mostly a very bad dream.
by sharksrog on Apr 26, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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