AL Only Dynasty Draft

by alskor on Mar 30, 2009 1:31 PM EDT Comment 16 comments

-5X5 with OBP instead of AVG

-22 man MLB rosters

-17 man minor league roster

-Auction for MLB players, keepable unless they hit free agency

Here are the results. Id be delighted to hear any feedback, especially which picks people liked and disliked... as well as which teams had the best drafts and which had the worst. Thanks.

1	1	1	Al	TEX	Justin	Smoak	1B
1	2	2	Joe D	KC	Eric	Hosmer	1B
1	3	3	Dave	BAL	Brian	Matusz	SP
1	4	4	Al	TEX	Derek	Holland	SP
1	5	5	Pat	CHW	Gordon	Beckham	2B
1	6	6	Pat	TB	Tim	Beckham	SS
1	7	7	Pat	MIN	Aaron	Hicks	OF
1	8	8	Pat	OAK	Michael	Ynoa	SP
1	9	9	Mike	BOS	Ryan	Westmoreland	OF
1	10	10	Pat	TEX	Martin	Perez	SP
1C		11	Al	KC	Tim	Melville	SP
2	1	12	Dave	LAA	Trevor	Reckling	SP
2	2	13	Joe D	SEA	Greg	Halman	OF
2	3	14	Dave	TOR	David	Cooper	1B
2	4	15	Steve	KC	Mike	Montgomery	SP
2	5	16	Dave	DET	Ryan	Perry	RP
2	6	17	Steve	CLE	David	Huff	SP
2	7	18	Joe D	TB	Matt	Moore	SP
2	8	19	Dave	CHW	Dayan	Viciendo	3B
2	9	20	Tom	KC	Danny	Gutierrez	SP
2	10	21	Tom	CHW	Brandon	Allen	1B
2C		22	Tom	TB	Nick	Barnese	SP
3	1	23	Dave	SEA	Josh	Fields	RP
3	2	24	Joe D	BOS	Josh	Reddick	OF
3	3	25	Al	CLE	Hector	Rondon	SP
3	4	26	Steve	CLE	Kelvin	De La Cruz	SP
3	5	27	John	SEA	Michael	Saunders	OF
3	6	28	Brad	BOS	Junichi	Tazawa	SP
3	7	29	Al	OAK	Jemile	Weeks	2B
3	8	30	Steve	OAK	Vin	Mazzaro	SP
3	9	31	Al	CLE	Lonnie	Chisenhall	SS/3B
3	10	32	John	BOS	Casey	Kelly	SS
4	1	33	John	MIN	Shooter	Hunt	SP
4	2	34	Joe D	NYY	Austin	Romine	C
4	3	35	Tom	DET	Casey	Crosby	SP
4	4	36	Steve	KC	Kila	Ka’aihue	1B
4	5	37	John	DET	Cale	Iorg	SS
4	6	38	Brad	TEX	Neil	Ramirez	SP
4	7	39	Joe M	LAA	Tyler	Chatwood	SP
4	8	40	Steve	BAL	Kam	Mickolio	SP
4	9	41	Tom	TEX	Julio	Borbon	OF
4	10	42	Joe M	CWS	Jordan	Danks	OF
5	1	45	John	MIN	Carlos	Gutierrez	SP
5	2	43	Joe D	LAA	Peter	Bourjos	OF
5	3	44	Al	TEX	Max	Ramirez	C/1B
5	4	46	Steve	MIN	Danny	Valencia	3B
5	5	47	John	MIN	Wilson	Ramos	C
5	6	48	Brad	OAK	Sean	Doolittle	1B
5	7	49	Joe M	TOR	Brad	Mills	SP
5	8	50	Pat	CWS	Chris	Getz	2B
5	9	51	Brad	BOS	Michael	Almanzar	3B
5	10	52	Joe M	CLE	Carlos	Rivero	SS/3B
5C		54	Brad	TOR	Justin	Jackson	SS
5C		53	John	BOS	Stolmy	Pimental	SP
5C		55	Brad	CWS	Clayton	Richard	SP
5C		56	Tom	NYY	Abraham	Almonte	SS
5C		57	John	DET	Cody	Satterwhite	RP
5C		58	Al	LAA	Will	Smith	SP

Im unsure of a couple of picks at the end - there were about 6 or 7 more, but there was a flurry of trades. Ill edit this when I figure it out for sure.

Thanks again

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Best and Worst IMO

Best Picks:
Gordan Beckham @ 5 – shouldve been in the top 3
Michael Saunders @ 27 – think he can be Grady Sizemore light
Jemile Weeks @ 29 – solid all around, shouldve went top 20
Julio Borbon @ 41 – 40+ SB and great batting eye

Worst Picks:
Derek Holland @ 4 – had one good year in the minors, dont think he will repeat
Martin Perez @ 10 – too young and unproven
Trevor Reckling @ 12 – way too high, myabe shouldve gone undrafted
David Huff @ 17 – marginal SP should not go in the top 20 AL picks
Danny Gutierrez @ 20 – too many KC pitchers ahead of him……

by Summa Slugga on Mar 30, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Holland

very much agreed. People hear a lefty hit 98 a few times and they tend to lose their mind.

by jsmall404 on Mar 30, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, to defend my pick

- I thought Gordon Beckham was a slightly better player/prospect… but I just have no room for him. I have Pedroia signed for six years and a bunch of UTIL options. I loved Beckham, but he wasnt an ideal fit… and there wasnt value in trading down a couple spots. My league does not have a Middle infield spot. There is really no room at the inn for Gordon Beckham.

- Starting pitchers are insanely shallow in a 10 team AL Head to Head league. Every member of our league can name pretty much every single starting rotation in the AL at any given time during the season. Even the worst starting pitchers have value in this format, because once you have fallen behind in ERA and WHIP you want to have these crappy SPs to throw to try to at least take Ks and Ws. I cant express how shallow it is. People who have played AL Only know what Im talking about. There is literally not a single SP on the waiver wire all season long. In this light, Holland doesnt have to end up being an Ace to represent a nice return.

- In a year when I would be looking to leverage my assets into the best team possible I would probably think “I should trade from strength at 2B…” and what then would I look for when I go to trade him? A high ceiling, near MLB ready stud pitching prospect would probably be what I would be looking for. That being the case… why should I wait a year to try and trade Beckham for next year’s Derek Holland? Then I have to deal with the aggravation of negotiating for a guy like that AND Im not even sure I could get a Derek Holland … NO ONE EVER gives up pitching prospects in our league, never mind guys with high ceilings who can help this season! If I did wait, I might get some extra value back besides a top tier pitching prospect – but not that much more… and certainly not the kind of added value that would be a deal breaker for me if I was getting the guy I wanted.

-Holland is very, very good. His changeup is a plus pitch. Its not just a hard throwing lefty = sexy thing. His fastball has a ton of movement, too – its not just velocity. His slider “flashes plus” as well. I guess the lack of a consistent breaking ball worries me w/regards to his ability to get out LHH… but hell, he’s a LHP. There is risk, in that he sort of came out of nowhere, but there is a mounting pile of evidence that this guy is a stud. Stats and scouting wise.

- This was an appropriate place to draft Holland in the eyes of my other league members. A couple people said I should have gone with one of the Beckhams… but in no scenario does Derek Holland fall below #6. So, I really dont see how its all that much of an overdraft even if youre down on Holland…

- Holland could help me this year by all accounts AND he has a very high ceiling. That’s a nice 1-2 punch.

Really, the only way this burns me is if Gordon Beckham ends up at SS, and even then if Holland becomes 75% of what I think he could Id probably take Holland.

by alskor on Mar 30, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

which KC pitchers are ahead of Gutz?

Founder of the Johnny Giavotella fan club.

by doublestix on Mar 30, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmmm

Daniel Cortes
Carlos Rosa
Danny Duffy
Mike Montgomery
Tim Melville

are all pretty much ahead of him.

by Summa Slugga on Mar 30, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmm

well Cortes and Rosa are ahead of him, but Gutz is closer to the majors than the other three. since he is 22 (or close, not sure his exact birthday) they will almost certainly be willing to move him quicker. plus, Rosa is a reliever and there is a small chance Cortes will be as well.

yea those guys are ranked above him on most lists (definitely not all). but they like Gutz A LOT and he’s likely to get a shot before those latter three.

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by doublestix on Mar 30, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How'd that Pat guy get 5 first round picks?

Or am I reading this wrong?

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Mar 30, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nope, he did.

Trades. I think he was angling to move up, too, but it didnt pan out. He did get some very good players… Im not sure I would have gone through so much trouble, though. After 5 & 6 (and possibly Ynoa) those arent exactly special players worth moving up for. I think the same quality of player (or close enough) was available well into the 2nd…

by alskor on Mar 30, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As George Bush said,"StrateGERY"

(This is Pat) I had my pick, got 2 first round picks last season prior to the trade deadline, swapped first rounders 2010 for 2009 and bought pick 10 at our draft. I was trying to move up for Smoak but Dave (number 1 pick) wanted 5 & 6. Which at the time was GBecks and Holland. That was before all hell broke loose before the draft. I thought that was giving up way to much value and held on to my picks. Power is much easier to come by the Middle Infielders in our league. For example, I picked up Pena on waivers 2 years ago and picked up Millar and Hinske last year who had above average seasons.

Seeing that I didn’t like anyone in the second round, I stretched for Perez at 10 (he would have went 12 anyway) Perez is regarded by many as the 3rd best left handed prospect behind matusz and holland obviously and assuming Price loses prospect status. His ceiling and make up were to hard to pass up.

I would like to know if anyone would give up 5 & 6 for Smoak and their opinion on the rest on my draft.

Thanks

by AL ONLY GM on Mar 31, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha

I thought this was Brad.

I dont think Perez was an overdraft at all… loved him.

by alskor on Mar 31, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trade?

Is this the same league where you wondering about trading up? It looks like you did without giving up the #4.

by FI2 on Mar 30, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes it is

I trade the #3 and #14 (which was David Cooper) for the #1. Negotiations completely broke down, but then the owner of the #1 pick decides he really liked Matusz – nearly as much as he liked Smoak – so it wasnt that hard to convince him to move down two spots and pick his guy while letting me get Smoak. The #14 was great value for him and he was taking the guy he really wanted anyway… We knew that the owner of the #2 was taking whichever 1B fell, so it worked out great.

by alskor on Mar 30, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Based solely on "Best Player Available"...

Gordon Beckham should have gone higher than #5, somewhere in the 1-2 range.

Guys who went too early IMO:

Westmoreland (Mike must be a Sox fan – or from Rhode Island)
Melville (I would’ve preferred Viciendo, Halman, Cooper, Allen, Reddick, Saunders, Tazawa, Weeks, Chisenhall, Ramirez, Ramos)

Guys who went too late IMO:

Saunders
Tazawa
Ramos
Ramirez
Viciendo

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by ProspectTube.com on Mar 31, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

FYI...

I have a similar draft coming up on April 11th, I’ll post the first few rounds for comparison. It’s scary how similar the pool of available players looks. One difference is the size of the league (only 8 vs 10), so there’s less premium placed on starting pitchers.

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by ProspectTube.com on Mar 31, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We are from RI

and Red Sox fans for the most part…. so… yes.

Curious… where would you have him? I see him as Hicks-lite. I see him as definitely draftable… and I dont see him dropping past the 3rd round of a draft like this.

The guy who drafted him didnt have another pick forever and didnt like anyone there all that much. He was desperate to sell the pick or work a deal but it didnt happen. He really wanted Hicks and he thought he was going to get him… when he didnt I think he panicked and then said “f*** it.”

by alskor on Mar 31, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs