Preseason Picks for Division/WC Winners
Not exactly minor league related (though they'll definitely factor in), I thought it would be fun if people put up their preseason predictions. Here are mine:
National League
East - Mets
Central - Cubs
West - Dodgers
Wild Card - Phillies
American League
East - Rays
Central - Twins
West - Angels
Wild Card - Red Sox
On the NL: I think it's pretty much a wash between the Mets and the Phillies, but I do think they'll finish atop the NL East and will both make the playoffs. I don't think the Braves have the offense to finish the job, and I don't think their rotation is going to be quite as good as a lot of preseason write-ups have it. As far as another club winning the Wild Card, I don't see the Brewers pulling it out with the hit their starting pitching has taken, and none of the NL West teams look deep enough. If Carpenter and Wainwright come back strong I could see the Cards threatening for the Wild Card, but I don't think anyone unseats the Cubs atop the NL Central, even with Dempster's inevitable regression.
NL Dark Horse - Marlins
On the AL: I don't like Joba in the rotation when Hughes is ready to step in and the pen looks like it could be shaky. I also think the team is silly to be starting Gardner while A-Rod is on the DL, considering that they're already going to be a bit power deficient. I'm expecting some regression from Chicago's rotation, and I don't think the Royals are there yet. The Indians are a decent team, but they look like they're game for about 85 wins to me. I like the A's and Rangers, and think both teams will take a step forward, but again, they're not quite there yet.
AL Dark Horse - Rangers
Anyone else got picks?
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Rangers
I think the Rangers will win the Division because of the injury bug the Angels have. The Angels are going to have a lot of problems with starting pitching.
I also think the Rangers will out perform the A’s and Mariners. If Cahill and Anderson can be above average as rookies, I think the A’s might win.
by Coolbean04 on Mar 29, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rotation
I don’t see how Texas can come close to winning with that rotation…
by cowboy4eva on Mar 30, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankees Pen
It was actually one of the best in baseball last year. It actually looks to be one of the best…
Putting Joba in the bullpen makes zero sense.
And I don’t see what Gardner has to do with A-Rod.
http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com/
by hallofamer2000 on Mar 29, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pen
Instead of just saying that without info, I might as well explain.
The Opening Day bullpen looks to be:
Rivera, Mariano: Still one of the (if not THE) best in the game
Marte, Damaso
Coke, Phil
Veras, Jose
Ramirez, Edwar
Albaladejo, Jonathan
Bruney, Brian
In AAA:
Robertson, David
Melancon, Mark
Kroenke, Zachary
Jackson, Steven
Aceves, Alfredo
Claggett, Anthony
Cox, J. Brent
They seem pretty set with a good pen and lots of depth.
http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com/
by hallofamer2000 on Mar 29, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point taken
The pen isn’t terrible, but the only guys with strong track records are Mariano and Marte. It makes a lot of sense to send Joba to the pen when you consider that he shortens the game to 7 innings and that with a whole season in the rotation he’s either going to have an innings jump of about 60 (which will still be taxing the bullpen and his arm) or he’s going to be pushed even harder than that and blow out his arm. I like Joba in the pen to start the year and moved to the rotation later on, especially considering the embarrassment of riches New York has in terms of starters. Why risk it? Give Hughes a chance to fail.
As for the connection between A-Rod’s injury and Melky getting the starting job, it’s going to be a very light-hitting lineup with Cody Ransom at third, and while Gardner has speed, his defense is inferior and he’s got all of 9 homers in his minor league career. I could be wrong, but with the lineup the Yanks are going into April with, I’d prefer to play around with the second leadoff guy in the 9 hole once I’m not looking at a homerless April from third.
by Fanon on Mar 29, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't this?
7 of the 8 teams that made it last year and everyone in the exact same spot except the Phils and Mets? I would be surprised if it’s that similar.
I think it will be:
AL
East – BoSox
Central – Indians
West – Halos
WC – Yanks
NL
East – Mets
Central – Cubs
West – Giants
WC – Cards
Commentary:
I tend to go with the teams with the strongest pitching staffs. Red Sox, Yankees, and Halos have the best pitching in the AL IMO. I don’t trust the bullpen in Tampa or the young arms in Minnesota. I don’t think most of the other teams have too much of a shot.
In the NL, I don’t trust the Phillies staff behind Hamels (and I don’t think their pen will be as good without Romero) and I don’t really trust the Dodgers after Billingsley. I think the Giants will pitch their way into it (Lincecum, Cain, and RJ is pretty solid) and I am thinking they will make a big acquisition for some offense during the year. I like the Mets and Cubs starting staff and I think Carpenter will rebound enough to put the Cards in it.
JMO…
by Dfarth on Mar 29, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No - 6 of 8, and let me explain
I’ll be absolutely shocked if anyone unseats the Cubs in the Central. I was thinking maybe the Cards, but while their rotation performed admirably last year and Carpenter and Wainwright are back and hopefully healthy, I don’t see Wellemeyer and Lohse repeating what they did last year. It wouldn’t shock me if they won the Wild Card, but I don’t think it happens unless they avoid regression from their big breakout guys from last season (Wellemeyer, Lohse, and Ludwick). It’s not impossible, but I think they finish a little bit out. As for the Phils, I count them out every year and they’ve upset my Mets two seasons running, so I’m just going to give them the credit they’ve earned and hope I’m wrong.
I don’t see how the Giants make the playoffs with Bengie Molina as their cleanup hitter and Travis Ishikawa as their first baseman. They look a hell of a lot like the 2002 Dodgers, and they’re competing with the 2009 Dodgers with a lineup featuring strong offensive players at every position and pretty solid pitching.
The Indians don’t look good to me at all. I think Cliff Lee will be good, but I’ll be really surprised if he’s as good as he was last year. Outside of that, their rotation is pretty ugly and the revamped bullpen still isn’t too hot. The Twins have a ton of pitching depth, and while their pen doesn’t look great, I like them over the Indians, and I don’t see the White Sox repeating.
by Fanon on Mar 29, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some thoughts regarding the Twins and Indians!
Hello Fanon,
You provide some nice thoughts and arguments regarding your picks.
A couple points though about the Twins and Indians, both of which I see battling it out for the AL Central. I’m not sure if the White Sox or Royals is the likelier of the two to be in the mix as well (I can see the White Sox regressing – age is becoming a major factor with many of their position players, and their bullpen, outside of Jenks, is questionable; I’m not sure if the Royals will make noise in 2009 or 2010, but I think their ability to compete will improve in the near future. The Tigers, they need a lot of things to go right for them to really be in the hunt, in my opinion. So far in Spring Training, that doesn’t seem to be the case – Bonderman’s health, Robertson reportedly has an injury, what will you get from Sheffield, both Zumaya and Rodney are on the disabled list, how effective will Lyon be as the closer, etc.).
Regarding the Indians, I think Lee can have a solid to above-average year, despite some questionable outings in the spring. I’m not sure anyone is realistically expecting him to go 22-3 again, but I think he is a solid bet to win anywhere from 14-18, especially if the Indians’ offense is consistent.
One guy who you have to keep in mind and who may be the real key to the Indians’ rotation is Fausto Carmona. He was injured for part of 2008, plus he also had a hitch or “jump” in his delivery, which is likely why his command was so poor. The Indians have monitored and adjusted his delivery to where he’s not jumping as much through his follow-through, and if the spring is any indication, his command is much sharper than it was in 2008. Only time will tell, but I think Carmona is a better bet, provided he stays healthy, to come closer to his 2007 season than his 2008 season. He may not, and probably won’t, win 19 games like he did in 2007 (though if he gets enough offensive support where he’s not losing or taking NDs in low-scoring games, he could), but I think 14-18 wins by him is a decent to solid possibility.
Carmona is really the key to the rotation because, if he doesn’t bounce back, then I think your statement about the “rest of the rotation being ugly” is more accurate; otherwise, the Indians have a quality 1-2 punch with Lee and Carmona, much like the Royals have as toonsterwu pointed out. If one of the three guys from the last three pitching spots can step up, and I think that’s a reasonable possibility that one of the back three (between Pavano, Reyes, Lewis/Laffey/Sowers/Huff) will put up a decent to solid year, then the Indians’ rotation isn’t that bad. Also factor in how much Westbrook can bring to the table in the second half of 2009 – granted, he won’t be 100 percent, but even a 75-80 percent Westbrook might be enough to stabilize the back-part of the rotation if Lee and Carmona are doing solid to good and one of the other three is decent to solid. Certainly, there are question marks with the Indians’ rotation.
However, I don’t think the Twins’ rotation is without question marks either, mostly because of their young age and lack of experience. Often, there are fallbacks and adjustment periods that most players will go through in their second full seasons, and I think that can apply to several of the Twins’ young starters, including Slowey, Blackburn, Perkins, and Baker. I don’t think it’s realistic to expect all four of them to be able to duplicate their success from last season – particularly, I think Blackburn and Perkins are the two bigger question marks, whereas Baker and Slowey may be better able to duplicate their 2008 seasons, with a bump or two here or there.
Additionally, will Liriano stay consistent with his command – every so often, he seems to have a hiccup in terms of locating the baseball. Plus, I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect him to be the “old” Liriano – I’m not sure he will be that pitcher again, though he can still be quite effective, and has been for the most part this Spring from what I have heard and read (which has only been marginal reports).
I think, however, the biggest disagreement I have with your assessment of the two teams is in regards to the bullpens – I think the Indians’ whole bullpen is stronger than the Twins. Outside of Nathan, the Twins, to me, have a bunch of question marks and lack of solid track records to rely on. They no longer have Reyes (now in St. Louis), and he was one of their more dependable relievers. Guerrier has been decent to solid, but I’m not sure he’s a consistent 7th-8th inning guy. Breslow has looked solid for them, though he doesn’t have a long track record to be comfortable relying on him for 7th-8th inning work either. Bonser is an enigma in my opinion – he sometimes looks very dominant, and other times, he looks like he doesn’t know where the stuff is going or how to command it, so he’s very inconsistent – not someone you can totally rely upon. As for the others, they’re either young, without considerable ML track records, or both.
Contrast that to the Indians’ bullpen, where the Indians finally have a bona-fide stopper in Kerry Wood, a guy who has virtually comparable stuff and dominant ability to Nathan. Granted, Wood does have an injury history (though as a starter, not as a reliever/closer), doesn’t have the track record Nathan has as a closer, nor has done it in the AL, but if Wood stays healthy (a considerable if, but a higher chance of that as a reliever in the data we have), he should certainly be an upgrade over Borowski and even Wickman before him.
Then you have LHP Rafael Perez, who had a decent to solid year in 2008 until very late in the season (better than Betancourt and probably better than Lewis) and a great year in 2007 – he’s also looked very good this spring with the Indians and with the Dominican in the WBC. I’d take him over Reyes, who’s no longer in Minnesota, and Breslow (who was with the Indians briefly).
You then have RHP Jensen Lewis – while some may question his “stuff,” (only reaching around 90-91, sometimes 92-93), he still gets above-average results with his "no-holds-barred’ demeanor, and at times, has shown the ability to dominate out of the bullpen, even saving 11/12 or 12/13 out of the bullpen in late 2008.
You also have to factor in RHP Joe Smith, who has looked very good in the spring as well – I think he certainly adds quality relief to a bullpen that was very questionable in 2008; this way, the Indians don’t have to rely on guys like Kobayashi or Mujica to pitch the 6th-7th innings that often. That is also an upgrade.
I think that is the back-end of the Indians’ bullpen, and I think that is better than the back-end of the Twins’ bullpen. Yes, Nathan is very good, but the ones in front of him are question marks, as are the front-end of that bullpen.
Regarding the Indians’ front-end of the bullpen, one guy who could really tip the scales in the Indians’ favor in my opinion is RHP Rafael Betancourt. His results this spring have been mixed from what I have seen – some outings, he looks more like the “old” Betancourt (from 2003-2007), other outings, he looks more like the Betancourt from 2008. His entire track record would suggest that he should still be a solid reliever, not as good as in 2007, but somewhere between his 2003-2006 performances, which would still put him solidly average to above-average, and arguably, better than what the Twins have in the same position in their bullpen. If Betancourt can be that reliever, or even nudge closer to his 2007 form, that certainly gives the Indians a distinct advantage in regards to their entire bullpen.
Kobayashi and Zack Jackson, the last two spots in the bullpen, are certainly question marks. Kobayashi has not looked good very often this spring, and he likely will not be used much. If he falters in the early going, it’s possible he’ll be released. As for Jackson, he has an option left, and he’s mostly up here for long-relief, in the event that the Indians’ rotation does experience some growing pains early on in the season. His spot, though, could also be a revolving door for other relievers down at AAA Columbus, including the following
RHP Juan Salas (the former Ray)
RHP Eddie Mujica (IF he passes through waivers, which is debatable)
LHP Tony Sipp (one to watch, as he is now fully recovered from TJ surgery, and has thrown the ball well for the most part this spring)
RHP Jon Meloan (still needs to adapt back to the bullpen after not succeeding as a starter with the Dodgers, but his track record would suggest that he has the ability to become a dominating reliever, so he’s another one to watch)
RHP Adam Miller (no, that’s NOT a misprint – reports are that Miller will NOT have the surgery on the tip of his middle finger, as reports suggest his command has improved considerably since relying more on his forefinger to command the baseball; reportedly, Miller is not feeling any pain either. Certainly, Miller is a HUGE question mark, but if he’s staying healthy and being effective, certainly he’ll factor into the bullpen mix in 2009 as well).
Combine all that and I’d have to give the Indians the edge in the bullpen in 2009 – the top 4 I pointed out alone should put it squarely in the Indians’ favor, no matter how dominant Nathan is. If Betancourt returns to pre-2008 levels (and that’s not necessitating a return to his 2007 form), that will put it more squarely in the Indians’ favor. Therefore, I think you have to give the edge of the bullpens to the Indians’ – both on track record and stuff.
Regarding the offenses of the two teams, the main problem I have with the Twins’ lineup is that it is too dependent on Mauer and Morneau, and right now, Mauer is a BIG question mark. If he’s out for any length of time, that will put more pressure on Morneau, who has shown he can be a bit streaky. Guys like Cuddyer and Punto, along with the younger ones like Span and Young, can help, but I don’t think you can depend on them to carry the ballclub for any length of time. If Mauer is out for any length of time, this team may really have trouble scoring runs. Crede could also help, but that’s provided he stays healthy playing most days on field-turf, which reportedly is not great for players with back problems, which Crede has dealt with repeatedly over the last few seasons.
As for the Indians, certainly a return by Hafner to 2004-2006 levels would clearly give the Indians the edge offensively over the Twins. However, I’m not sure or even confident he will return to that level (right now, if he could put up his 2007 level or a bit better than that, I’d be happy with just that). If Hafner can come back to his 2007 level or thereabouts (preferably, a bit better), than I think the Indians’ offense, as some experts and analysts have said, could put the Indians in the upper-echelon of offenses, since they would have a “big-bopper” in the middle of their lineup. Combine that with Victor Martinez, who is healthy and showing some power in the early-going (he has at least 3 HRs in the spring), as well as Jhonny Peralta, who is one of the better-hitting SSs in the league, and the Indians have a very solid middle-of-the-order already.
That doesn’t even take into account Choo, who likely isn’t the 995 OPS (or whatever it was in 2008), but who can probably post an .800+ or even .850+ OPS batting from the 6th spot, and again, the middle-of-the-order favors the Indians.
DeRosa’s addition should also help – he’s displayed some power in the Spring, but certainly should do a very solid job in the #2 spot even if he doesn’t hit for power. You certainly can’t forget about Sizemore in the leadoff spot either, who probably is a very solid bet to hit 30+ HRs again.
Add in a mixture of Shoppach, Garko, and Francisco, who have shown signs of being solid hitters with some power mixed in (especially Shoppach), and I think the Indians’ lineup 1-9 has many more options they can rely on to contribute and keep scoring droughts to a minimum, something I’m not that convinced about with the Twins’ lineup. Add in also that the Indians have reinforcements like LaPorta, Brantley, Crowe, Valbuena, and Hodges at AAA Columbus, and I think the Indians also have more options to rely upon in case someone is ineffective and/or injured. I’m not sure the Twins have that depth (they may have 1-2 guys, perhaps – I’m not really sure, but I don’t think they have 5 quality hitters/prospects at AAA like the Indians do).
Overall, I could see the Twins only winning 80-85 games. If most or everything breaks right for them (such as the pitching staff performing as well in 2009 as it did in 2008), they might reach or crack 90, but I think the same thing could be said for the Indians, or as you mentioned, they might only win 85. This could be one of those years where 85-87 wins wins this division (and potentially, all 5 teams in this division could do that if enough things break right for them).
I think the AL Central will be an interesting one to watch – I think it’s a question of how many things go right for which teams, who stays healthier, whose players and reinforcements come up big, and who can establish themselves early on in the season that will likely determine who emerges from the AL Central in 2009.
Just my 2 cents.
Again, appreciate the thoughts and comments.
Take care and have a great day!
The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.
by indiansfan on Mar 30, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Response
I’m a huge Choo fan, and I won’t be surprised if he OPSes .900 (I have him on a couple of my fantasy teams this year, so he better).
I don’t mean to write off the Indians too much. Joe Smith is solid, and being a Mets fan, I’ve really liked him since he was drafted. It’s just that a lot of what I’ve been seeing has almost been proclaiming him as a difference maker, and while he’s good, both years he was in ST with the Mets the same things were said, and he’s not. He’s Chad Bradford-lite, at best. The pen will be better, but suffice it to say, Wood makes me nervous as hell, and I’m not sure why. Just a gut thing (considering the division we’re talking about, a lot of it is going to come down to gut). Though I do think that if he can stay healthy, he’s got a big closer season in him at some point.
I’m also really not a Peralta fan. He provides above average offense for the position, but he’s really a sixth hitter, by my estimation. The offense doesn’t strike me as being much better than the Twins, assuming that Minnesota’s outfielders should take a step forward (I’m one of those who still has faith in Delmon improving a bit).
by Fanon on Mar 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guesses
AL East – Yankees, Red Sox, Rays, Blue Jays, Orioles
1-3 should be close.
AL Central – Twins, Royals, Indians, White Sox, Tigers.
Toughest division to figure out. I wanted to go against the Twins, as I don’t really love the team, but I think they have the most balanced club. Royals have the best one-two SP punch, and I think their pitching will help them stay in it. If the young bats can step up, watch out. I like the Indians, but I have questions about the SP that had me hesitate.
I can honestly see any of those 5 teams winning it, depending on how the ball bounces.
AL West – Angels, Athletics, Rangers, Mariners.
I’m not a huge fan of the Angels rotation. But … I think the A’s are probably a year away.
AL Wildcard – Red Sox.
AL Playoffs? Yankees vs. Twins; Red Sox vs. Angels => Red Sox vs. Yankees = > Yankees
NL East – Marlins, Mets, Phillies, Braves, Nationals
I expect 1-3 to be very close. I’m getting bashed elsewhere for this pick, but I think the Marlins rotation is one of the best in the majors, and I think they’ll figure out their pen. I think Hermida bounces back, and overall, I think the offense improves. That said, I could see Phillies or Mets winning it.
NL Central – Cubs, Cardinals, Brewers, Reds, Astros, Pirates
This is the Cubs division to lose. That said, I do worry about St. Louis and Milwaukee (I’m a Cubs fan). Milwaukee – if those two young bucks (Gallardo and Parra) take the steps forward, this is a much better team than most are giving credit for. That said, this should be the Cubs division.
NL West – Giants, Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Rockies, Padres
I’m not real sure on this pick – flipping between giants and dodgers. I like Fred Lewis, Pablo Sandoval to step up, but they still need one more big bat. The Dodgers need another starter, but they have the internal assets to fill the hole. If the Diamondbacks young bucks can take big steps forward, they’ve got a shot, but I like the other two better. I think Colorado will be competitive, but the pitching is a year away, and the Padres are clearly retooling.
NL Wildcard: Mets.
NL Playoffs: Cubs vs. Mets, Marlins vs. Giants = > Cubs vs. Giants = > …
by toonsterwu on Mar 29, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like your NL East pick
It’s gutsy, but I think reasonable.
The Fish have a great rotation. I am not sure it will hold up, though.
by parish on Mar 30, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CHONE...
projects the Marlins as 12 wins behind the Phillies and 11 behind both the Mets and Braves. That’s a whole lot of people overperforming their projections on the Marlins, and a whole lot of people underperforming theirs on the three other teams.
by slamcactus on Mar 30, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup, i've seen the projections
First, like I noted, I could see the other two winning. I think it’ll be close. I think the Braves offense is a year away, and I’m not sold on their pen.
As for the Marlins, I like their pitching staff a lot – I think their first three of Nolasco/Johnson/Volstad is as good as any of their rivals top 3. I was always a big fan of Anibal Sanchez, and I think he’ll be stronger with more time away, and Andrew Miller as a 5th guy looks like a solid 5th option. The offense and bullpen certainly have questions, but if Hermida can bounce back, I think that replaces some of the last power, and I think the team’s defense should be stronger. Add in a stronger system to make deals with, and I like the Marlins chances. I think the pen will sort itself out, as there are more than enough high upside late inning arms, like Tucker and Ceda, coming up that could fill roles if things fall apart.
by toonsterwu on Mar 30, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess...
i just don’t share your optimism about the rotation. Volstad is a great candidate for collapse IMO. He’s never missed bats at any level, and a .282 BABIP and 77% strand rate screams fluke. He gets ground balls, which is nice, but it’s rarely enough for a starter to only be good at one thing. Johnson’s only thrown 150 innings once, in 2006. Even supposedly completely healthy, it would be foolish to count on him for more than ~170 innings this year, leaving a lot of starts open for a #6 starter, and depth isn’t their strong suit. Nolasco also worries me as a guy who threw 210 innings last year as opposed to 55 the year before.
In the Marlins’ top-3 I see one great collapse candidate and two guys for whom the talent is there but the durability isn’t.
They’re fighting an extremely uphill battle in the NL East, and I just don’t think they have enough tools. Even if absolutely everything breaks right, the other three teams ahead of them have upside, too.
by slamcactus on Mar 30, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants
I’m with you on the Giants. I’d actually really prefer them to win, but I don’t see how they can do it. I think Sandoval is going to be very good, but he’s a defensive liability (I think he’s good to unseat Ishikawa at third if they can find a warm body that can OPS .750 to play third). I’m a huge, huge Fred Lewis fan, and while I think he’ll improve, I don’t think he’s going to be that much better. The Giants need a big bat, while the Dodgers need one more guy to pitch 170 innings with a 4.50 ERA. The latter is easier to find than the former.
by Fanon on Mar 29, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is close to my thinking
But I have been reading that teams are going to be more willing to dump contracts in order to stay cheap because of the economy. Maybe a 4.5 ERA pitcher is easier to find than a big bat but if the Giants are willing to take on contracts (and it seems like they should be willing to do that), they might be able to get 2-3 decent bats. Matt Holliday, Jermaine Dye, one of the Cards OF – there should be some pretty decent power bats that are available. And, if Lincecum and Cain both make marginal improvements then I think their rotation can be significantly better.
I know Kershaw is talented but I think he’s too young to lean on too much. Behind Billingsley, they don’t have anyone that I would consider a “sure thing.”
by Dfarth on Mar 29, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a whole random thing
but if first base is a question for the Giants, and if Adam LaRoche is his usual hot self in the summer, I really think those two teams could have a match there, sending, perhaps, some pitching over for LaRoche.
by toonsterwu on Mar 29, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see your points
But it’s tough to see Lincecum improving over last year, considering how amazing he was an how many innings he threw. I love the guy, but I’m more expecting catastrophic injury than I am even marginal improvement. I am expecting Cain to improve, but again, I’m not sure if the offense is there. While you might see teams looking to dump those guys – not Holliday, the A’s are way below budget this year and will only trade him if they’re getting back some serious prospects – I don’t think the Giants are going to have the money to spend on a legitimate hitter, not after they paid Renteria three times what he deserved. With what they owe on that ballpark, spending is always constricted.
The Dodgers aren’t that bad pitching-wise. I think Kuroda is a pretty safe bet, and Wolf, if healthy, should be solid. As for the rest of the rotation, it’s not going to be great, but at least one of those guys will step up, and the Dodgers are probably better positioned to pick up someone else’s trash in the form of a salary dump (Jarrod Washburn, maybe?). I do think it will be close, and the D-Backs will be in it as well, but I think the Dodgers will pull it out in the end.
by Fanon on Mar 29, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Points
I agree that Lincecum is likely to not get any better. I do think that Cain – and possibly Sanchez – could make strides and be even better.
On the other hand, I have a gut feeling that Kershaw, Billingsley, and/or Wolf wont stay healthy/effective. I actually like Kuroda alright but I think he’s likely to regress from last year. They might be able to add a starter (Bedard maybe?), so I could definitely see them winning it.
Definitely like the young talent on the D-Backs too but I just don’t trust the pitching after Webb. Regardless, should be interesting fight to see who wins the pillow fight in the NL West.
by Dfarth on Mar 30, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hold up
You don’t trust Haren? Because by my reckoning, he’s one of the guys who I have the most faith in. He’s gotten better every year he’s been in the majors.
I actually have Sanchez as a guy who’s likely to break out, and like him a lot. The Giants could conceivably have four guys get to 200 Ks this season (when was the last time that happened? Did the Prior-Wood-Zambrano Cubs do it?). I just had a lot of faith in those early ‘00s Dodgers teams and regularly got burned when Barry Bonds’ Giants pulled it out. The Dodgers don’t have Barry, but Manny can carry an offense on his own and on that team he doesn’t need to. I think as long as Billingsley stays healthy they win it. D-Backs have the pitching, but Upton is going to have to break out big time this year for their offense to cut it (it’s possible). I’ve been hugely disappointed with Chris Young so far, and I don’t have a lot of faith in Mark Reynolds improving much.
I won’t be shocked if any of those teams finish in first. I suppose I’d go: Dodgers, Giants, D-backs, Rockies
by Fanon on Mar 30, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2003 Cubs
Wood: 266K
Prior: 245K
Clement: 171K
Zambrano: 168K
I do agree that the Giants have a chance to have four guys with over 200K (or at least 175), but I have doubts about Unit being able to stay healthy. Also, even though I am a huge Sanchez fan, I have doubts about his ability to put together a full season. He did well last year with the huge innings increase he took on, but it was obvious that he tired as the season progressed (3.97ERA pre ASB… on pace with Lincecum when it came to K/9, and 7.47 post ASB). I think this year Sanchez either puts together a full season like he did in the first half last year, or he develops some arm troubles by late in the season.
"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile
by Boxkutter on Mar 30, 2009 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By no meant a prediction
But they’ve got an outside shot. Four with 175+ is a lot more likely, perhaps almost a lock assuming they all stay healthy, and that alone is very, very impressive.
by Fanon on Mar 30, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brain Fart
Forgot about Haren. The D-Backs have a better shot than I was thinking. Still have a gut feeling about the Giants…
by Dfarth on Mar 30, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers rotation
Losing Lowe will hurt the Dodgers more than I think people expect. The Dodgers actually won more games Lowe started last year than Billingsley I believe. Of Kuroda, Wolf, and Kershaw, the best bet of a big improvement year would be from Kershaw, but I still think he’s a year away from matching Lowes 08 season.
by SeeingStars on Mar 30, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RE
I just don’t see where the Giants are going to get any offense, though. It’d be one thing if they even could put together a slightly below average offensive output with their current roster…but I just don’t see it. I love their pitching, but they desperately need more than just one big bat if they’re going to compete.
However, I like their potential in 2010 and beyond. They have some hitting prospects I really like (Posey and Gillaspie especially) and should get a really good prospect at #6 overall this year.
by Outshined_One on Mar 30, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's see
American League: Boston, Kansas City, Oakland, Wild Card: Tampa.
National League: New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Wild Card: Philadelphia.
by jahs34 on Mar 29, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
would love to see the network's reactions if those teams made the AL playoffs...
:D
Founder of the Johnny Giavotella fan club.
by doublestix on Mar 29, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should be another great year
NL
East: Mets
Central: Cubs
West: Dbacks
Wild Card: Cardinals
AL
East: Yankees
Central: Indians
West: Angels
Wild Card: Red Sox
The only reason the Phillies won the NL East last year was because of how terrible the Mets bullpen was, Putz and Rodriguez get them over the top here. The Cubs lineup should get a boost from Milton Bradley, even if he only plays 100 games, and should outpace the Cards, who will benefit from having a better back-end of the pen in Motte and Perez as well. The Dbacks are the question mark here, as it will come down to their shaky (at best) pen. Can Qualls close for a full season? Will Rauch be the dominant late inning force he could be? Either way the offense should take a huge step forward, using their speed this year to help them win games. If that pen fails, as it very well may, the Dodgers steal the division.
The Yankees are the Yankees and the Sox are the Sox, the Rays could win 95 games and not make the playoffs. I would take the Twins, but I don’t see them hitting over .300 in the clutch two years in a row, and I don’t see their starting rotation sustaining success like it did last year. The Indians like to alternate good years and bad years, and as they were terrible last year, they’ll be good this year. Carmona bounces back to offset Lee’s regression, and Wood helps them close out games. Even with Injuries the Angels have the best pitching in the division. The loss of Teixeira hurts, but they’ll get enough from elsewhere to stave off the improved A’s until midseason, when Beane cleans house.
by ajake57 on Mar 30, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Picks
AL
East- Orioles
Central- Twins
West- Angeles
Wild Card- Red Sox
NL
East- Braves
Central- Cubs
West- Diamondbacks
Wild Card- Mets
by Birdfan01 on Mar 30, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Predictions
AL West: A’s. Projection systems have them about 3 wins behind the Angels pre-injuries. A little luck and a mid-season trade from Oakland’s ridiculous minor league depth can make up that ground.
AL Central: Twins
AL East: Red Sox
WC: Rays. They’re not only good and young, but they’re also crazy deep. They can handle a season-ending injury to any position on the diamond but catcher and fill the position with a league average player. Aybar’s the backup for 1B, 2B, and 3B, Brignac gets called up early to fill in at SS, Joyce fills in at either corner, and Crawford takes over center with Joyce sliding into the corner if they lose Upton. The Yankees are a fantastic team, but they don’t have anything close to the Rays’ depth.
NL West: Giants. Yeah, their bats suck, but their arms are crazy good.
NL Central: Cubs. No reason to expect a dropoff from any of their major producers.
NL East: Mets. Best position player talent in the division, especially with Utley’s hip injury hampering his value. Phillies should experience some regression from overperforming role players.
by slamcactus on Mar 30, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
woop woop
ALE: Rays
ALC: Indians
ALW: A’s
ALWC: Red Sox
I like how the A’s are put together… their starting pitching is still question marks, but I think some of the young guys step up. their bullpen could be ridiculous … Devine, Ziegler, and Casilla are great. The Red Sox have amazing pitching, and that will overcome the decline of Ortiz and the regression of some other bats. The Indians are going to hit, and their pitching will be good. If Wood goes down, Perez will step in and close with no problem. The Rays are so good that I have nothing to say about them. Shields is my pick for ALCY.
NLE: Mets
NLC: Cardinals
NLW: Dodgers
NLWC: Marlins
AL Darkhorse: Blue Jays . [by this i mean they could really pull some shockers and maybe finish 3rd above the yanks]
NL Darkhorse: DBacks [could take the west from LAD]
the Marlins will bash, and their young staff is very impressive. Hanley = MVP 09. Hermida/Ross will combine for 50 HRs. Maybin could finish 2nd in ROTY after Schafer. Johnson and Nolasco are darkhorse NLCY candidates. But it will be the Dodgers who take the NL Championship over StL. their Kuo/Broxton 8th/9th is ridiculous and will shorten games for them all year. Kershaw gives me a boner and Billz could win 20 games this year.
Post-season:
Rays over A’s
Indians over Sox
Cardinals over Mets
Dodgers over Marlins
Rays over Indians
Dodgers over Cardinals.
Rays over Dodgers in 6.
by daveh33 on Mar 31, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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