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ESPN.com's Peter Gammons heard from some club officials that top amateur pitcher Stephen Strasburg and his agent, Scott Boras, could demand $50MM over six years if he's selected first overall by the Nationals in the June draft. If the Nationals pick Strasburg and seem unwilling to pay him as much as he wants, Boras could threaten to send the prospect to pitch in Japan for a year. If the Nats are scared off, the Mariners and Padres are next in line for Strasburg.

So how could an amateur player get away with these lofty demands? Strasburg has struck out 74 and walked only seven in the 34.1 innings he's pitched for San Diego State and scouts rave about his stuff.

What do you guys think?
I personally think that its crazy to pay him that kind of money.

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Well . . .

Do the math. $50M over 6 years is 8.33M/year. If Strasburg is half the pitcher that just about anybody and everybody seems to think he is, that would still be a bargain. Risk involved? Certainly, but taking chances on players happens all the time . . .might as well take one on a kid with the potential and polish to be a true frontline starter.

Hate on the signing bonus process all you want, but at the end of the day MLB teams are still making off like bandits with regard to investment-to-return ratio when it comes to draft prospects.

by mrkupe on Mar 21, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

A lot depends on the structure.

If it’s structured to where most of the money comes in the last 2 years of the deal, with opt-outs for arbitration, Boras would be putting himself in a tough spot on deciding whether or not to take the last opt-out if he’s a true ace by that point. Prior opted out of a year of his draft contract, but was only scheduled to make a little over $2 mil, way less than Strasburg would under this deal.

That being said, there’s no way I pay him that much. He’s not worth about 5 times as much as any other draft prospect ever. And if he does go down with an injury, or his stuff does somehow diminish, however unlikely, you’re looking at $50 million of completely sunk cost for an unproven prospect. If you look at Prior, he was definitely worth the big investment in the beginning, but the injuries ended everything. Knowing that, would the Cubs have spent $20 million for the right to have Prior for those few good years? Or is that too much, considering you’re hoping that a guy’s stuff translates from dominant college pitcher to dominant Major League pitcher without skipping a beat as far as performance and health. And Strasburg will probably be abused in his early years in MLB as well. There’s way too many factors for me to even discuss $50 million with him. $20 million is the ceiling I’d pay for a great draft prospect.

by Andy Seiler on Mar 21, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, in theory, if you think he's really worth $10M a year and you'll be paying him 8.33

and there’s another prospect in the draft who’s worth $5M a year that you can pay league minimum, you’re better off taking the other prospect.

That being said, this is nothing more than posturing on Boras’s part. There’s no way any team will pay any pitching prospect that kind of money.

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by PaulThomas on Mar 21, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that's the way it should be.

That's why we play the season on paper.

by 306008 on Mar 24, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't start that argument again...

You’ll have a handful of people arguing whether his mechanics actually cause injuries or if they’re fine, since we don’t know as much about the human body as people think we do.

by Andy Seiler on Mar 21, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's not about whether Strasburg is worth it..

It sets a horrible precedent for the next No. 1 pick.

by Forza Hudd on Mar 21, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Its both

Not only is it a terrible precedent, its also about whether he is worth it. On the free agent market, sure, he might be worth it. However the draft process is there for a reason and with that kind of contract Strasburg is basically skipping all arbitration years with that kind of deal. It undermines the entire draft process and arbitration process.

by dougdirt on Mar 21, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Completely agree w/Dougdirt.

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by gore51 on Mar 21, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

me too.
teams are dumb. but I don’t think any teams are that dumb.
simply absurd.

by my dixie wrecked on Mar 21, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

PLEASE!!!

Don’t let baseball draft turn into football draft, please please please.

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by gore51 on Mar 22, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Offering lucrative MLB contracts to get around the suggested signing bonus could set a horrible precedent. If Strasburg, a potential #1 starter, can earn even 25 million from his draft signing, what does that say for pitchers with lower ceilings. For a pitcher with the ceiling of an average #3 starter, drafted in the late 2nd round/3rd round, what kind of contract demands could he make of this. An average #3 starter will not be worth less than a 1/4 of #1, but does that mean a potential #3 warrants 6.25 million from a draft contract, most likely no. I am not saying that a potential #3 would demand near this value at draft but a creative agent would try to use this contract to justify an increase in the value of draft talent.

by tdot mariner fan on Mar 21, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially in a depression!

That's why we play the season on paper.

by 306008 on Mar 24, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

bad idea

I absolutely love Strasburg. Love him. Think he’s going to be great. I would not pay him anywhere close to that. He’s not going to revolutionize the game with his talents. He is a pitcher, and has a monumental injury risk to boot. I think he will be very good, maybe even Lincecum good but he’s not going to be Bob Gibson good. Sinking that kind of money into a guy who has never and may never throw a major league pitch would be a huge mistake in my opinion. You never know when these guys could blow out their elbow or shoulder, and as Mark Prior has shown, coming back from injuries are no sure thing.

by loop on Mar 21, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

That could be disastrous.

And a lot depends on when he signs. If he signs on August 15, no way he throws in the bigs with that layoff. I’m buying AFL tickets if that happens, though.

by Andy Seiler on Mar 21, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strasburg

He should probably get a record amount for a #1 pick but by no means should he get that much money. Part of drafting is getting cheap players to help build the MLB team. Paying a prospect 50 mill over 6 years is ridiculous. If this is serious I hope the nats take him and he has to go to Japan for a year because we all know the skankees would jump at the chance to give him that money. Then in 2010 another team can take him and I doubt he would not sign twice to go play in Japan for a fraction of the money he would make in MLB. The team would have all the leverage. Worst cast the nats still have the #10 pick as backup and then get the #2 pick next year. Would be funny if they ended up with the #1 and #2 pick in 2010.

by cajunrevenge on Mar 21, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I reallly hope...

they are just trying to scare off the Nationals so they pass him by and then Seattle can take him #2.

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by Boxkutter on Mar 21, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Just hot air from Boras...

Remember when ARod opted out and Boras proclaimed he would ask for $350+M? Didn’t happen, and he “settled” for $270M (or right about there?). This past off-season Manny Ramirez was supposed to get a HUGE contract despite the cost cutting throughout MLB, and he “settled” for $45M over 2 years – AND only the Dodgers were willing to go that high. Granted, Strasberg is a different animal, but if proven professional commodities like ARod and Manny didn’t fetch Boras’ crazy original asking prices, I can’t imagine anyone paying $50M for an unproven #1 Draft Pick – no matter how many times he hits 102MPH and how desperate the Nationals are (and I live inside the Beltway, so believe me I know they are DESPERATE!). If Strasburg stays healthy & dominates, I could see the Nationals going 5 years @ 25M (which still mind you is just obsurd I think), but the new regime won’t go past that, not even on a “Magical Once in a Lifetime Unicorn” like Strasburg.

by Ramakis34 on Mar 21, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Give the man a break,...

He’s got to feed his family. But, in all seriousness, I think it’s nothing more than hot air. Boras’ ironclad rep has taken numerous hits recently. He’s still a powerful agent, but his cachet is certainly not as strong.

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by parrot11 on Mar 21, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

How has Boras' rep taken a hit recently?

He got Alvarez the most money in the draft and he got many 40 mil when the Dodgers were the only bidder!

by Birdfan01 on Mar 21, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a few things,

The Arod thing blew up in his face, Manny pi$$ed and whined his way out of Boston only to get the exact same deal he was running away from Boston, he got much less for Matsuzaka than he wanted, and a bunch of players have fired him.

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by parrot11 on Mar 21, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

he got manny...

a 1 yr 25 million contract…5 million more than he wouldve made in boston this year….with a fallback of 15 million if he all of the sudden loses it….thats a win for boras, just not as big of a win as he predicted….he got a 32 yr old a 10 year contract!!!!!!!!!….with the highest average annual salary EVER….HUGE hits to Boras’ reputation…

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Mar 21, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

How Much More Did Manny Actually Get Though?

The better question is did his antics end up costing him any money? I think it did. Would Boras have gotten any commission on Manny’s options with Boston? I don’t think he would have. But Manny has to give him a cut of his new contract right?

There’s also the deferred money. According to the linked story, “because of the money deferred without interest, Ramirez’s 2009 salary is given a present-day value of about $18.4 million by Major League Baseball”.

There’s also the state taxes he has to pay. According to this link he’s going to have to pay much more in state taxes than he would have had to pay if he stayed in Mass.

So he’s getting less than the $20 Mil he would have earned with Boston, not to mention paying Boras a cut of it. Doesn’t sound like Manny came out ahead on that deal. But Boras of course made himself some money. Just like he always does.

Same guy, new name.

by stillredsoxfan on Mar 21, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's no way to spin this.

In a free agent market where Bobby Abreu got $5M x 1y, Pat Burrell got $8M x 2y, and Adam Dunn got $10M x 2y, Manny got a 2 year deal that had a total value higher than all three of those contracts combined.

Manny wanted out of Boston, to be in a place where he felt more appreciated. He got it. He wanted a big money deal for multiple years. He got that. Manny and Boras MURDERED this year’s free agent market, and they did it without there really being any interest in signing Manny outside of LA.

by DrunkIrish on Mar 22, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

What Am I Trying To Spin?

I don’t see how my post is trying to spin anything. Just pointing out that Boras only made Manny an extra $5 Mil this year. Big deal. That’s not the huge multi year contract he kept talking about a few months ago. According to this story Boras has consistently been seeking $25-30 million a year for four to six years.

It also doesn’t seem like the offer he signed was for all that much more than what the Dodgers offered him a few months ago if you count the buyout. (Though he wouldn’t have had an option to opt out next year).

So if anything, I think you might be able to make a case that Boras misjudged the market and he was lucky that the Dodgers were willing to overpay to keep Manny.

Manny wanted out of Boston, to be in a place where he felt more appreciated.

Why? What changed between spring training 2008 and last June/July when he started to meltdown? Because last spring training Manny was saying “I want to finish my career here,” Ramirez said, "but it’s up to them.

He also said “It’s up to them to say, `OK, we’re going take (the option). It’s not up to me to go into the office and demand a four-year deal, whatever,” he said. “No, I’m going come here to play the game, finish my year. If they want me to come back, I’ll come back.” “I want to wait and talk to them (about) what they want to do, after the season,” Ramirez said. “I want to play the game, finish my year, and whatever happens, happens.”

I also remember reading a story about how happy Manny was at the beginning of spring training and his whole new attitude heading into 2008 but I can’t find the link to it. I did find a link to an interview with Curt Schilling where he references it though "You had the Buddha Zen Master guy in Spring Training, reading and [saying] ‘Life is good; don’t worry, be happy,’ and it just looked like he was poised to have a monster season.

So why? What changed? Beats me. Maybe the answer is he simply changed his mind. As for Boras and Manny murdering the market? I don’t see the connection. I think the economic downturn was more of a factor there.

Same guy, new name.

by stillredsoxfan on Mar 22, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

Boras took the Dodgers to the cleaners. As DrunkIrish so eloquently stated above- Manny got more than the other 3 best FA OFs on the market! Making things worse- they were the only team to make him an offer!

by Birdfan01 on Mar 22, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sooooooo?

Dodgers stupidity = Boras great agent? Okay, if you say so. I guess you ignored the part of my post where I wrote “he was lucky that the Dodgers were willing to overpay to keep Manny.”

Who gives a shit if he got more than every FA OF available. Was there any market for those guys? No. What happened to the huge multi year deal Manny was going to sign? Oh my mistake, two years does count as multi. Big whoop.

Also, $5 Mil more than the Sox option years paid is getting taken to the cleaners? Again, if you say so.

Same guy, new name.

by stillredsoxfan on Mar 22, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

One elements of Boras' strategy

is to announce that he’s looking for something ludicrous and then simply get a terrific deal for his clients. You can’t judge him by not getting what he originally asked for – you have to look simply at what he got. Considering Ramirez is going to be 38 when he finishes this contract, and might not even want to continue playing, it’s not out of the question that this was the deal he always wanted

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by OldProspects on Mar 23, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

his old agent was going to get a cut....

of the option years so that doesnt matter….he’s also got the money guaranteed WITH the option of hitting the FA market again next year…..this was no doubt a win for Boras…a huge win? Probably not, but Manny definitely came out ahead

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Mar 22, 2009 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

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this was no doubt a win for Boras

Of course it was. If Manny stayed with Boston Boras would have got squat.

but Manny definitely came out ahead

Here’s where I disagree. It’s just my opinion and I think there are too many variables to know for sure but I think Manny screwed himself by listening to Boras. Maybe there’s a CPA on here that could figure it out for us.

Did you not read that link? If he stayed with Boston he would have gotten $20 Mil this year not the $10 Mil plus $15 Mil deferred he’s going to earn. He also would have been a free agent again next year. So what’s the difference really? (Besides the difference in agent fees and state taxes?)

If the Sox give him that option next year he gets another $20 Mil. Not the $5 Mil he’s going to get next year plus the $15 deferred. There are so many ways to look at it. Did Manny only make himself another $5 Mil total? Is he really going to get a long term contract next year? Doubtful(maybe the Yankees sign him for 1 and an option to DH).

Now I don’t know how much the difference in fees to agents would be. Maybe he pays Boras less than his previous agents (I personally find this idea laughable but whatever) but he still has to pay the man in Cali more than he would have in Mass.

I don’t know, maybe Manny did come out ahead, but either way it’s not like he made all that much more if he did. I’m sure he’ll get over it.

Just saw this on Cot’s, Ramirez to donate $1M to club charity. So it looks like someone made out besides Boras.

Same guy, new name.

by stillredsoxfan on Mar 22, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

manny may not have been a FA until after the 2010 season....

with Bostons options. Manny hated Boston, so if the math works out that he came up a couple bucks short in total compensation after taxes, it seems like it still worked out well for him. Two and a half less years in that hellhole of Boston.

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Mar 22, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wha??

Find me a link where Manny is quoted as saying he hated it in Boston. Cause there are links up above to articles about how much Manny liked being in Boston.

Manny wanted out of Boston because Boras wanted him out of Boston. If Boston picks up those options on Manny, then Boras get nothing. Squat. Zero. All the commision from the options go to his former agents before Boras. But with Boras getting him 25 million this year, Borad likely earned about 2.5 million (most agents charge 10% right?). Plus, Manny can be on the market again next season to maybe earn Boras another 1.5+ million. So Boras is probably earning 4 million dollars or more by making sure that Manny did not get his options picked up by Boston.

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by Boxkutter on Mar 22, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Absolutely agree.

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by solace on Mar 23, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Manny hated Boston...

but I do think he didn’t feel he was getting the respect he deserved from the Boston front office. Manny was hurt that Boston wasn’t interested in a long-term deal with him, and right or wrong that’s most likely why he left.

by DrunkIrish on Mar 23, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

it’s ridiculous to say Boras got to call the shots on this. Manny’s not a puppet, and Boras works for HIM. Players hire Boras because they want the most money possible, plain and simple.

by DrunkIrish on Mar 23, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Puppet? Yes.

Because the only way he can get the most money for his clients is if they do exactly what he tells them to do and say.

Doesn’t this constitute being a puppet?

by tuna411 on Mar 23, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

In your scenario, Manny is doing it to get what he wants.

So my point stands. People hire Boras to get what they want. He works for the player, not the other way around.

by DrunkIrish on Mar 27, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

For most players,

I would agree with you. But with Manny, I would not doubt anything I heard about him. I just don’t see him as being incredibly bright or manipulative. But I do think Boras is very manipulative.

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by Boxkutter on Mar 24, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's ridiculous.

Manny has an argument as the best right-handed hitter of his generation, and it’s not just natural talent. Just because he doesn’t strike you as the type of guy you expect to be intelligent doesn’t mean that he isn’t.

by DrunkIrish on Mar 27, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got less than Manny/Matsuzaka wanted?

It’s a funny thing, negotiation. Sometimes when you start higher than you think you can get, you end up getting more than you thought you would!

by DrunkIrish on Mar 21, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

True Story

Does anyone think Boras really thought he was gonna get Manny $100 mil? Does he really think he’s gonna get Strasburg $50? No way, but he’ll probably get him 20-25.

by Birdfan01 on Mar 21, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally disagree with the posters in this thread

Am I the only one that thinks cheap salaries for young players and arbitration are a freaking joke? The fact is, often times the best players in baseball are dominating in the majors within 6 years of their draft. Why should we have a system that punishes them for being young? Does it makes sense to anyone that Carlos Silva made $12M last year and Cole Hamels made $500K? That is a GD joke of a system in my opinion and it is one that can screw players.

I think that a market for talent exists and we should let it function. Not repress the salaries of young guys because they are young. How would you feel if you were a highly touted amateur?

by Dfarth on Mar 21, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Agreed.

We’re talking about a talent that hasn’t been seen in a draft since A-Rod in 1993. He’s not a prospect, he’s a polished pitcher pitching in a league way below his level. He should get $50 million and a 6 year major league deal. It’s a total bargain for whichever team gets him.

by lailaihei on Mar 21, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Completely disagree with you guys on both points

Without a salary cap it is imperative for young players to be under team control. The cheapness of young players is responsible for the parity that there is in baseball. Do you think the Rays would have even been .500 this year if they didn’t have the ability to keep Upton, Navarro, Longoria, and all those pitchers below market value? And its not like young players’ salaries are held well bellow for 6 years, after 3 years they go to arbitration and make less than they would in the open market, but not a tremendous amount less- Ryan Howard was awarded 10 million in his first hearing!

On the Strasburg point- 50 million is absolutely absurd for Strasburg and there is no way Boras expects to get that. Strasburg is being dubbed “the best ever”, but if you look back at who previous best ever prospects were you will see a lot of guys who were never very good in the majors. Here’s an excerpt from Klaw’s most recent chat:

john (columbia, sc): How good is Strasburg compared to other recent college pitchers who have gone high in the draft? Is he really a once in a generation talent?

 Keith Law: The last guy this good would be someone from before I was involved in the industry – other scouts who’ve been doing this for 20+ years are bringing up names from the 70s and 80s like Witt, Heaton, Tatsuno.

Was Witt, Heaton, or Tatsuno worth 50 million? There is no guarantee Strasburg is going to be a dominant starter in the bigs, and to give him more than double what any other amateur has ever gotten is A-B-S-U-R-D!

by Birdfan01 on Mar 21, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm NOT saying that the current system isn't broken.

Just that it’s stupid to pass on Stasburg if you’re Washington just because he ends up at a $40 million or nothing situation. He’s worth it, it’s just unprecidented.

by lailaihei on Mar 22, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do you know he is worth it?

He has yet to throw a professional pitch. Sure, the scouting reports are fantastic and everyone agrees he is the #1 guy in the draft and maybe even for a long time…. but that doesn’t mean he is going to work out. One pitch is all it takes to ruin a career unfortunately.

Lets pretend for a second he is a better prospect than Mark Prior (and that is fairly debatable at this point), Prior still only got 10.5 Million.

by dougdirt on Mar 22, 2009 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Giants

didnt pay for any guarantee when they signed Zito, they were paying for the fact that he wont Cy Young awards with the A’s..THAT is what they payed for. Dont mix apples and oranges for the sake of a dumb arguement.

by jsmall404 on Mar 23, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone knew zitos contract was terrible when he signed it...

strasbrug getting 50 million would be HORRIBLE for the game…

however, if it were my team, and i was given the choice between Zito, or hell, even Sabathias contract and giving strasburg 50 million over 6, i’d take strasburg in a heartbeat

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Mar 24, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's just what we need:

A system where the poorest, worst teams can’t afford to keep the players they draft. Why even have a draft in the first place? Go back to when all amateur players could be signed as free agents, and the Yankees play in the World Series two out of every three years.

by DrunkIrish on Mar 21, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Difference...

between not being able to afford players, and not wanting to pay them. Most teams fall into that second category.

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by Boxkutter on Mar 22, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't think it's fair to punish a player for being young

I mean AJ Burnett is clearly a health risk. So is Rich Harden. If Strasburg has to take a “small” contract and then his career is over – I don’t think that’s very fair to him because at one point in time he was one of the most coveted baseball players on the planet.

I would argue that the way to fix what you are talking about is a salary cap – not cost controlling young players…

by Dfarth on Mar 22, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every sport cost-controls young players.

And unions don’t have a problem with it. Find me a union that takes better care of its newcomers than its veterans.

by Andy Seiler on Mar 22, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something tells me Strasburg

will be handsomely compensated regardless of how is professional career turns out. He is probably going to get around 20 million, that ain’t bad.

by Birdfan01 on Mar 22, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

this sounds like the NFL

they over pay their rookies because of their draft status, and thats what this would be.

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by e-gus on Mar 23, 2009 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes and no

In the job market the new guy is never going to make as much as the old guy. Not in any job is that going to happen, especially when the new guy has no true experience, no matter where his degree is from compared to the other guy. After a few years when the new guy proves ‘hey, I really do deserve a raise and to be making more than the older guy who isn’t as good at his job as I am’, then that guy will get his due.

Goodluck at a job interview thinking you are going to go in and get more money than the guys already there, who have proven they can do their job. Either you are the best salesman ever, or the person who hired you is an absolute moron. Stephen Strasburg looks fantastic. He might even be the best thing since sliced bread, but until he proves it, the amount of money he is asking for is beyond ridiculous.

by dougdirt on Mar 22, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he can be a Major League pitcher

Say an all-star caliber guy over those six years immediately after he signs, then maybe it is worth it for him to have a contract that much.

However, professional baseball doesn’t work like that for guys coming out of high school or college. Strasburg may not be a guy to step in a Major League rotation immediately, which is what a team is basically expecting if they give him a $50 million bonus.

Whether you are a No. 1 type or a No. 4 type, you are going take their lumps in the minor leagues and it would be ridiculous to throw that money based on what he did against his amateur peers.

It seems like you would not throw $50 million on him if you were a team and if you were Scott Boras – maybe you figure out a new price tag for this talent, but asking $50 million?

What happens if he is a bust? He may have $25 million after taxes, but it may sour teams from drafting the next Strasburg.

by BBFan1 on Mar 21, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like a negotiating ploy

And a pretty good one at that. Boras has always been great at framing the terms in his favor and it looks like that’s what he is trying to do here.

The hope is that when negotians start with the Nationals (lets assume) the conversation won’t be Boras trying to prove that Strasburg should get more than Price, it’ll be the Nationals trying to prove that he’s not worth $50M. If he can get the negotiations to start at the second point he can “lose” and still bag more money for his client than if he “won” the first.

by OkayJay81 on Mar 21, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

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by OldProspects on Mar 22, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prove he's not worth $50 million?

bor-ASS ain’t getting more than 7.5 million and that amount is TOO much. 25% increase for the highest amount paid last year is more than enough.

bor-ASS is a dink regardless…

by tuna411 on Mar 22, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope the Nats take him

And offer him a record deal but no where near the 50mil. Let him go to Japan if thats what it means.

Question though, what happens after he pitches in Japan for a year? Back in the draft? Bidding process? Surely not a FA?

by groundingout on Mar 22, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

He just goes back into the draft

Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"

by PaulThomas on Mar 22, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the same as pitching in Indy ball.

If you’re drafted in the Rule 4 draft, you can’t sign in any year in which you’re drafted with any team other than the team who drafts you. You can be drafted for 20 years (you can’t be drafted by the same team back-to-back years without your permission) in perpetuity, not sign every year, and still not be a free agent.

by Andy Seiler on Mar 22, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we all know..

he isnt getting 50 million.

He is going to get 50 million based on dominating 2 years on the college level? I like the scouting reports as much as the next guy, but alot of the way salaries are decided is based on past performance.

I would be surpirsed it is more than 13 million.

by jsmall404 on Mar 23, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Great article

For those who believe bor-ASS should be getting as much as $6 or $7 million for strausberg.

I don’t know if it has been posted yet…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/23/AR2009032301414.html?referrer=emailarticle

by tuna411 on Mar 24, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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