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Tim Hudson Prospect Retro

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Tim Hudson Prospect Retro

 

 

Tim Hudson was drafted by Oakland in the sixth round in 1997, out of Auburn University. He was very successful in college, going 15-2, 2.97 with a 165/50 K/BB in 118 innings in ’07. Scouts liked his approach to pitching, but lack of plus velocity kept him out of the first five rounds. He pitched well in his pro debut, going 3-1, 2.51 with a 37/15 K/BB in 29 innings for Southern Oregon in the Northwest League. I didn’t grade many short-season players then, but nowadays a guy with this profile (average velocity, good secondary stuff, good college and short-season success) would get a Grade C+.

 

Hudson began 1998 with Modesto in the California League, going 4-0, 1.67 with a 48/18 K/BB in 39 innings. Promoted to Double-A Huntsville, he found the going a bit more difficult. He went 10-9, but with a 4.54 ERA and a 104/71 K/BB in 135 innings with 136 hits allowed. Scouts were very impressed with his splitter, but his command wobbled, shown by the high walk rate and 13 wild pitches. Scouts his tenacity, but his fastball excited no one, he walked too many guys, and wasn’t rated among the best prospects in the Southern League by Baseball America. I gave him a Grade C in the 1999 book, noting that he had decent stuff, but that the command issue would prevent success unless he solved it. I also wrote that he would probably do better as a reliever than as a starter.

 

Insulted by my analysis, Hudson took matters in hand in 1999, going 3-0, 0.50 with a 18/3 K/BB in 18 innings for Double-A Midland, then 4-0, 2.20 with a 61/21 K/BB in 49 innings for Triple-A Vancouver, then 11-2, 3.23 with a 132/62 K/BB in 136 innings for Oakland. His K/IP and K/BB ratios took a huge step forward, and he ended up as one of the best young pitchers in baseball.

 

Aside from a rough 2006 season, the only year his ERA+ was worse than league average, he’s been remarkably consistent, now holding a career record of 146-77, 3.48 with a 1372/619 K/BB in 2017 innings. His Similar Pitchers list is solid: Andy Pettitte, Bartolo Colon, Dennis Leonard, Mike Mussina, Ramon Martinez, Jim Bunning, Jack McDowell, Don Newcombe, John Candelaria, Dizzy Dean. . .all very effective pitchers, though some of them burned out in their early 30s.

 

As a prospect, Hudson had just one full season and two partial seasons in the minors. His A-ball numbers were very good, and his limited Triple-A exposure went well, but his Double-A performance in ’98 wasn’t very impressive, with mediocre K/BB and K/IP marks and so-so scouting reports that resulted in a Grade C rating. If you look at the totality of his career, college, minors, and majors, it was the Double-A performance which was the aberration. This is a good example of how unpredictable pitchers can be.

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Any theories on why his control suffered, even if it was just in AA?

He’s no Bob Tewksbury but it hasn’t been a problem in his ML career, not at all.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Feb 4, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How...

How could Hudson’s elite ground-ball tendencies be excluded from this report. Was it that scouts didn’t take this into account in the late 90’s? Or it was just omitted, but for what reason. To me, GB% is a key stat in evaluating a pitching prospect. I still think it’s undervalued and it seems like it was even more so in the past.

ProjectProspect.com - Sullivan10x@yahoo.com

by sully10x on Feb 5, 2009 12:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

late 90s

In the late 90s, ground ball tendencies were not quantified publically, to my knowledge anyway…..the data was very hard to find for minor leaguers. Things were a lot different then.

by John Sickels on Feb 5, 2009 8:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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