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San Diego Padres Top 20 Prospects for 2010

San Diego Padres Top 20 Prospects for 2010.

All grades are EXTREMELY PRELIMINARY and subject to change. Don't get too worried about exact rankings at this point, especially once you get beyond the Top 10. Grade C+/C guys are pretty interchangeable depending on what you want to emphasize. Complete reports on these and over 1,000 other players will be in the 2010 Baseball Prospect Book, now available for pre-order, shipping on February 2nd!

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1) Donavan Tate, OF, Grade B+: I'll trust the tools and San Diego's approach to hitting instruction with this one.

2) Simon Castro, RHP, Grade B+: Excellent arm with improving command, has come a long way since pitching poorly in rookie ball in 2007.

3) James Darnell, 3B, Grade B: A solid all-around hitter with good power and very good plate discipline.

4) Jaff "Commodore" Decker, OF, Grade B: If John Kruk and Matt Stairs can play in the majors, Jaff Decker can too, bad body or not.

5) Wynn Pelzer, RHP, Grade B: A personal favorite, he strikes people out and gets grounders with plus stuff. Really like him a lot.

6) Everett Williams, Grade B: As with Tate, I trust the tools and the Padres' ability to refine them.

7) Logan Forsythe, 3B, Grade B-: Joe Randa type, good plate discipline, good glove, perhaps not the power of a standard third baseman.

8) Edinson Rincon, 3B, Grade B-: Very impressive bat, but I want to see him at higher levels and his glove looks like a big problem at third. Future outfielder most likely.

9) Cory Luebke, LHP, Grade C+: Doesn't have the power stuff of Castro or Pelzer, but very polished.

10) Aaron Poreda, LHP, Grade C+: Command collapsed after the Peavy trade, cutting into his grade.

11) Lance Zawadski, SS, Grade C+: At worst he could be a very good utility guy, but there's some chance he could develop into a decent regular.

12) Rymer Liriano, OF, Grade C+: Very toolsy, hit well in the Arizona Rookie League but will need to improve his plate discipline.

13) Sawyer Carroll, OF, Grade C+: Hit .317/.413/.489 with 19 steals and 80 walks between the Midwest League, Cal League, and Texas League, but no one seems to have noticed. Production didn't drop at San Antonio.

14) Drew Cumberland, SS-2B, Grade C+: Can't stay healthy, but when on the field he's been very effective as an on-base threat. Young enough to turn out very well.

15) Kellen Kulbacki, OF, Grade C+: Gets an injury mulligan, but he needs a fast start in '10 to quiet the persistent doubters.

16) Adys Portillo, RHP, Grade C+: Bad rookie ball numbers, but could follow the Simon Castro career path.

17) Keyvius Sampson, RHP, Grade C+: Impressive athlete with a lively arm, one of my favorite high school pitchers from the '09 draft.

18) Jonathan Galvez, SS, Grade C+: Scouts are panning his glove but his bat looks solid to me, good plate discipline as with many Padres prospects.

19) Jerry Sullivan, RHP, Grade C+: Solid arm out of Oral Roberts, could rise quickly.

20) Eric Sogard, 2B, Grade C+: Gets on base, not punchless, defense is so-so but I like the bat enough to keep give him this grade

21) Jeremy Hefner, RHP, Grade C+: Someone I've liked since he was in college. Another guy with good components.

OTHERS: (all Grade C): Vince Belnome, 2B; Mitch Canham, C; Cesar Carrillo, RHP; Dexter Carter, RHP; Matt Clark, 1B; Luis Durango, OF; Allan Dykstra, 1B; Chris Fetter, RHP; Ernesto Frieri, RHP; Brandon Gomes, RHP; Nick Greenwood, LHP; Chad Huffman, OF; Cedric Hunter, OF; Will Inman, RHP; Craig Italiano, RHP; Jeremy McBryde, RHP; James Needy, RHP; Cesar Ramos, LHP; Jorge Reyes, RHP; Evan Scribner, RHP.

I felt this system was underrated entering 2009, and things are really looking up here. They've got a good mixture of polished bats and upside arms, and adding additional athletic upside in the '09 draft just makes things even better. Although they went with more athleticism at the top (Tate, Williams, Sampson) this year, they continued to draft polished college guys in the latter rounds, and I think this strategy will help them. It should also be noted that even the "skill" drafts before 2009 included good athletes like Darnell, Forsythe, Cumberland, Pelzer, and Zawadski. This was never a "tools don't matter" organization, no matter what people said.

A year from now things could look even better if Tate, Williams, and some of the lower level guys develop as expected. I should also note that there were several other guys that I could have written about: Brad Chalk, Blake Tekotte, Brad Brach, Anthony Bass, Erik Davis, Nick Schmidt, Nate Frieman, and others were considered. I might end up dropping Nick Greenwood and adding someone else, but there just isn't enough room for all of the Grade C guys who merit inclusion. The list I ended up with reflects a mixture of what I thought would interest people, including some guys who are closer to the majors but also putting in a few lower-level sleepers.

Overall, I really like this farm system.

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Would have liked to see Tekotte on there

and I think Darnell deserves a B+. What’s not to like?

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by hero66 on Dec 7, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice system

All 21 are atleast C+. Yeah I also think Darnell deserves a B+

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by ravensfan3 on Dec 7, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wynn Pelzer

John, what chance do you give Pelzer of remaining a starter in the major leagues? I’m guessing the No. 5 ranking means you think that he won’t end up in the bullpen.

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by jesse.burkhart on Dec 8, 2009 12:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

even though he has little projection left in him

I would have made a push to have Decker be a B+, I think he could be a special type of hitter, with power, a bunch of walks, and not a ridiculous amount of K’s. His defense and athleticism is bad, but his ability to crush anything gives him an awful lot of value. Anybody agree? Anybody want to prove me wrong?

I’d also argue for Darnell to be a B+, and Williams a B-.

Also, Jaff “Commodore” Decker? I think I’m failing to see the nickname?

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by gore51 on Dec 8, 2009 1:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

And by the way

Decker’s defense is not bad and his athleticism is much better than given credit for…
And I’m not sure I believe the no projection left either. There’s room for increased lower body strength which could translate into more power at the plate. Let’s see what he looks like in Peoria in a few months after the offseason training program.

by realitypolice on Dec 8, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He certainly looks athletic.

The problem I have with guys like this is: If you can’t work hard enough to shed the teenage pot belly when millions of dollars are on the line, how am I to expect you to work hard when things get exponentially tougher?

by PissedMick on Dec 8, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, come on

Did you really want him to give up his offseason gig as the Pillsbury Doughboy?

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by drjayphd on Dec 8, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you expect

your work ethic at 17 to be the same as your work ethic at 20?

by fnpadre on Dec 8, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ha ha

He looks like me when I was 13.

by gogotabata on Dec 8, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In both cases, millions of dollars are on the line. Just once he is in the system, being an athlete is now a full time job.

by aCone419 on Dec 8, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

one amateur psychoanalysis deserves another

and on that plane, you answered your own question: lots of people only start to push themselves when they’re really challenged, and Decker’s numbers thus far suggest that hasn’t happened yet.

It’s as reasonable to expect him to respond when and if his weight becomes an issue as it is to assume that if he isn’t in shape now he never will be…

by ManConley on Dec 8, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course that's a reasonable possibility.

The problem is that people want to treat Decker as if he’s a sure thing, and wish away the negatives in his profile. You have every right to believe that Decker will overcome his athleticism problems. You just don’t get to ignore them when it comes to ranking him as a prospect.

If Decker can improve his conditioning, then you can talk about improving his grade, just as you would a player that improved his power or plate discipline.

by PissedMick on Dec 8, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If we're always going to go back to one picture

can we at least choose one that isn’t three years old and shows what he actually looks like as a pro?
Something like this perhaps?

by realitypolice on Dec 9, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That looks like its from last year in the AZL

Here’s one from Fort Wayne this year:

by aCone419 on Dec 9, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

think it was actually instructs this year

The sequence in the gallery from MadFriars seems to correlate to that.

by realitypolice on Dec 9, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think that's right

Here is an article from April with that photo.

by aCone419 on Dec 9, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at the gallery on MadFriars

I’d wager that was last year’s instructs. Since (if the photos are actually chronological) it comes after his stint at Eugene.

by aCone419 on Dec 9, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

damn

i wish I had watched those movies lol

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by gore51 on Dec 8, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Decker

This is what I don’t understand:

Decker competed in the same league at the same age that Travis Snider did. Their body types/athleticism are pretty similar (with Decker perhaps getting a slight nod). They both crushed the ball in the MWL at the same age. They have comparable tools and talent level.

So how in the world was Snider so gosh darn highly rated, yet noone wants to rate Decker highly? What am I missing here? What is the key difference between what Snider was a couple years ago compared to what Decker is today? BA was so high on Snider after his MWL performance, yet seems to have tempered expectations with Decker. John has done the same thing.

What is the big difference here?

by guru4u on Dec 8, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I agree completely, and have compared Decker to Snider myself.

by killa on Dec 8, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

This is what I don’t understand. Snider is listed at 5’ 11" 245 on Baseball reference, and yet expectations weren’t tempered like they are with Decker. They both crushed the MWL, but Decker showed much better plate discipline, walked more and struck out less. In 2007, John gave Snider an A-, this year Decker gets a B. I’d say Snider’s performance since then certainly warrants his A-, grade, and I wouldn’t be shocked if Decker has a 2010 like Snider’s 2008. I really appreciate the work John does, but this this doesn’t seem consistent to me.

Is his body really that bad? He stole 10 bases this year (while being caught six times), and from what I’ve read, he can probably stick in right. He certainly has the arm for it. I really appreciate your work, John, but I think he should get the bump to B+, at least.

by seabass on Dec 8, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Never seen

Decker play, but have read a couple interviews with Doug Dascenzo (Fort Wayne TinCaps manager this past season) about how he doesn’t look out of place in CF and that he certainly has the arm to stick in RF. The body type questions can only be resolved with a dedication to physical training. Unfortunately, that’s just something that seems like it will always follow Jaff until he breaks down the big league door.

by fnpadre on Dec 8, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

…and Baseball America was in love with Snider, ignoring defense, strikeout rate, platoon split, etc., while Decker put up better numbers at the same age in the same league with a thinner body.

by richieabernathy on Dec 8, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The big difference

Snider was a big pile of muscles, from his days as a high school running back. He is/was a MUCH better athlete than Decker, whose “thickness” is of a much softer variety.

by aCone419 on Dec 8, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems easy enough to understand.

Snider is a mountain of a man for 5’10", while Decker just looks like a mountain of mashed potatoes. And you see it when the two players connect with the ball. Snider earned his scouting hype by hitting the ball RIDICULOUSLY hard.

It’s not all in the numbers, guys.

by PissedMick on Dec 8, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so decker hits the ball soft?

20+ homers and +.500 slugging in the MWL and he hits the ball soft

by matthewmafa on Dec 8, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that it's not all in the numbers

Scouting opinion is a huge factor in all this.

But like Matt tried to say, it’s not like Decker hit the ball soft at all. It is really, really hard for a teenager to post a .500 SLG in the MWL.

I guess part of my point here is that I really wonder if either Decker is underrated, or Snider always was a bit overrated. I kind of land in the middle at the moment.

by guru4u on Dec 9, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

This was my understanding, as well. I’m looking forward to seeing how Decker develops.

by royshowell on Dec 9, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Decker in the SD system are underrated

People say Decker’s defense sucks only because he looks the way he does. Has any of these people ever looked at his numbers or watched him play? The padres former scouting director said that Decker was atheltic enough to play CF just a year ago. It was his opinion that he was average there at best and above average on either corner. Decker was also the MVP of his short season last year with an OBP and slugging off the charts (over 500). The guy has produced, lead his team to the best record in the minors, and all any analyst can say is that Decker and his teamates are polished hitters with little upside. Right… that’s why the tin caps led the minors in wins, and why the padres had 4 of the top 15 OBP guys in the minors. Obviously OBP is an emphasis within the system for hitters.

by johnnycomelately9 on Dec 9, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really.

TinCaps had the following guys on their team at various points:

Mat Latos
Simon Castro
Anthony Bass
Nick Schmidt (dominated Low-A before struggling in High-A)
Jaff Decker
James Darnell
Allan Dykstra
Blake Tekotte,
Sawyer Carroll
Drew Cumberland

by pffriberg on Dec 9, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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by Frederick0220 on Dec 9, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you know what Frederick?

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by houksyndrome on Dec 9, 2009 4:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way John...

I would LOVE to have you talk to a scout that saw both of them in low A ball. It would be very interesting to hear the comparison.

by guru4u on Dec 9, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Please tell me Dykstra can save himself...

Between him and Matt Antonelli, the Padres are just chock full of failed Wake prospects…

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by demondeaconsbaseball on Dec 8, 2009 1:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow i knew this system was good

just never thought it was this good. So deep. A few guys in the honorable mention that could easily make it on other teams’ top 20.

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by thecoolest on Dec 8, 2009 1:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

+1

The system has really improved.

by cubsfan1 on Dec 8, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what was the knock on Darnell coming out of South Carolina?

He was pretty amazing there. Also, I remember reading that he was high on the Giants board but did he just live in the shadow of Justin Smoak?

by lions1 on Dec 8, 2009 1:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

darnell

Nah . . .if anything, he got MORE exposure because of Smoak.

Biggest question on Darnell coming out of college was position-related . . .there was a lot of talk that he was a corner outfielder in the making. Also probably should not forget that he never hit higher than .331 in college and barely .300 in his junior year; both of those numbers would give a lot of teams pause despite his blend of skills and tools.

I think John’s got him pegged right. AA will say a lot about just how good Darnell’s skills are.

by mrkupe on Dec 8, 2009 3:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

John

you forgot the include the position for Everett Williams.

by Havok1517 on Dec 8, 2009 1:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

CF or Corner OF

There is a good chance that they play both Everett and Tate together through the minors. A future line up made up between Tate/Williams/Decker/Blanks and all their C prospects should be pretty productive.

by johnnycomelately9 on Dec 9, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Depth

The top ten is maybe average, but there’s maybe even more depth there than I had realized.
I remember liking Sawyer Carroll in that 2008 draft, it looks like he may have been a steal in the 3rd round.

by acerimusdux on Dec 8, 2009 3:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Z

Lance ZawadZki – he’s cool enough to get too z’s.

by realitypolice on Dec 8, 2009 7:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

two even

embarrassing to have an idiotic misspelling in correcting someone’s misspelling!

by realitypolice on Dec 8, 2009 7:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good list

I really can’t argue with any of the grades here.

by jar75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Where would Kyle Blanks and Mat Latos rank on this list, had they been eligible?

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by koolkerns101 on Dec 8, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'd say

Blanks would be a B+ and Latos either A- or B+
My top 4 would then be: Latos, Blanks, Tate, and Castro

by soxkid on Dec 8, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd give Latos the liberties of an A-

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by Blicks on Dec 9, 2009 8:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like this system a lot.

Considering how low they were ranked last year (rightly or wrongly), they’ve compiled very impressive depth and another draft like last year’s in ’10 will just keep them rising.

by Alex Trebek on Dec 8, 2009 12:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would have Tate below Decker, Castro and Darnell, in that order.

I still like Mitch Canham and am surprised he didn’t find a way into the top 20, though this is a deep system.

by WrenFGun on Dec 8, 2009 12:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Canham

I like him too and hear that his bat is coming a long well but that he’s having trouble calling games. He’ll probably be on the list next season.

by johnnycomelately9 on Dec 9, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Between the two trades this past season

that brought in high-velo pitchers like Poreda, Italiano, and Carter along with more polished guys like Richard and Gallagher, who is going to have the best big league career?

by fnpadre on Dec 8, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

John

You blew my mind with that Commodore Decker reference. I didn’t think anybody outside of my immediate family would ever make a joke like that.

by houksyndrome on Dec 9, 2009 4:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

decker

Well I always put Trek references in my work. Been doing that for 15 years. Not many people notice them though.

by John Sickels on Dec 9, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just started reading your blog last year, so I didn't know to expect Trek references.

I bet I missed out on a bunch of Balok jokes, when Hank Blalock was in the minors.

by houksyndrome on Dec 9, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Baxter

Anyone have any idea where he fits in the Padre plans? I’m assuming not at all…

by hoos on Dec 9, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Baxter

Most likely a reserve

by johnnycomelately9 on Dec 9, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Poreda

I found it curious that John has Poreda at C+ because he was in his personal top 30 (rotowire) at the end of the year. Do the lists have different purposes (ie fantasy vs. real life)?

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by koolkerns101 on Dec 12, 2009 11:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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