Top SP MiL sleepers for 2010
by QBsIllest1 on Dec 16, 2009 7:30 PM EST
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PrintThis fanpost was influenced by the "Top Minor League Pitchers" thread. As I was replying to the post, I found mysefl coming up more with sleepers rather than actual solidifed top 25 or so prospects.
My sleeper for 2010 is Matt Hobgood. I saw mentions of every other top prep arm from the 2009 draft class except Hobby. If he continues to improve his changeup, he will be a very good SP prospect. With a sinking fastball that sits in the low 90's and touches 95/96 MPH, a plus curve that could be a future plus-plus pitch and a changeup that according to BA flashed "plus" in Bluefield last year, he could be pretty good, especially if he learns to utilize the sinker and get strong GB percentages. I honestly find it kinda puzzling that he was rated basically in a tier below the rest of the prep arms, but I guess that is what happens when you lack projection. I guess it also has to do with the fact that his fastball didn't touch mid 90's until the end of his HS season....
Another sleeper I like who is also from the 09 draft is Chad James. He has good stuff, but gets overlooked because his fastball is a tick behind the rest of the top prep arms from the 09 draft. It may also have to do with the fact that his fastball was in the upper 80's going into his senior year of HS, but as we sit, he projects to have 3 plus pitches in his fastball, curveball and changeup.
I also think Zach Britton is gonna move up lists big time next year as well.
So, who is your sleeper(s) as far as MiL SP prospects for the 2010 season?
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Cleveland
has a lot of good young SP, one I really think will vault into top 50 talk is TJ House.
Drafted in the 1st round isn't a sleeper.
Great future though. CH will give him early success
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Agreed
I wasn’t saying that he was, but the original poster mentioned him and Hobgood. I like James a lot more than Hobgood, and think he’s the most underrated of the first round HS arms.
hobgood is a sleeper?
the man was the 5th pick in the draft..
how is that a sleeper?
Jake Brigham and Matt Thompson.
Both Rangers prospects.
Brigham should start out in High A Bakersfield.
Thompson should start in Low A Hickory.
Oakland
starters Arnold Leon (RHP) and Anthony Capra (LHP). Capra is probably not as much of a sleeper as Leon, but I think both end up top 100 prospects buy the end of the 2010 season.
Wow! That would be a surprise.
With Oakland I like Ben Hornbeck.
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by WaddellCanseco on Dec 17, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve got a couple favorites:
LHP Kevin James with Tampa. He was bound for Boston College until the Rays failed to sign their top two ‘09 draft picks, and therefore they went over slot to sign him. He’s tall, fluid, and already has two plus pitches. He’s also got all the King Of Queens jokes going for him.
RHP Jason Ray with Oakland. He’s from a small school, is only 5-11, is 25, and missed nearly two years with an arm injury, but Ray reemerged to put himself on the map in ’09. Some of the best velocity in the California League this year. If he can overcome some bouts with control he will make a case to fast track in 2010.
Now Those Are True Sleepers
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Real Quick
Clayton Cook (CLE)
Kyle Allen (NYM)
Jake Odorizzi (MIL)
Jarred Cosart (PHI)
Mauarys Correra (LAA)
John Lamb (KC)
Either sleeper or breakout candidates
odorizzi seems kind of forgotten
definitely think he’ll have a great year in 2010. was high on him in the ’08 draft.
and I’ve made my man crush on Lamb well known. incredibly polished for a guy so young.
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Allen Webster (18th round 2008 draft)
will be 20 next year. Will probably start in Low A.. Fastball velocity jumped from 89-90 to 94-95 when he fixed his mechanics.. also has a plus breaking pitch.. i think he will break out big time and be in the top 100 prospect by years end
A Cubs sleeper or two
would be Justin Bristow and Jeffry Antigua. Antigua is a young lefty with 3 above average pitches that he can throw for strikes. Bristow’s another arm from the 2008 draft who was working his way back last year. Former positional player (SS off the top I think), he’s got good athleticism and was hitting the mid-90’s according to some (at year’s end).
Bundy
A knew injury essentially knocked him out of the 1st round, keep thinking he will put it together so perhaps he will next year.
He's Already Top 100 For Me.
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Here's A Couple
Brad Boxberger
Adrian Salcedo
Will Smith
Henderson Alvarez
Mauricio Robles
Michael Pineda
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Pineda
Damnit, wish they would stop making key boards smaller.
Agree, but to me that wouldn't be a sleeper
it would be a comeback.
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by t ball on Dec 17, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Couple I like:
Jon Bachanov
Alex Colome (where the hell is the hype on this guy?)
Jeanmar Gomez (grossly underrated)
Evan Anundsen (also grossly underrated, despite pretty unremarkable stuff)
Wynn Pelzer
Jeremy Hefner
Travis Wood
Mauricio Robles
Ethan Hollingsworth
Jeremy McBryde
Alex Torres
+111
on Gomez
and Wynn Pelzer
I too also like Jeremy Hefner – think he is pretty darn solid….
Alex Torres and Marico Robles I don’t really like though….
Rene Tosoni is good.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 16, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Bachanov Isn't Starting
Robles I agree with, Colome was #1 or 2 in the App league, Torres i thought about.
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In that same vein, and even though he's been highly rated
I expect Nick Hagadone to really impress this year.
TJ House and Jeanmar Gomez too.
I think Nick Hagadone may be the most overrated prospect in all of baseball…and that’s saying something for someone who is probably not a top 100 prospect.
24, can’t throw strikes, probably a RP.
+1 on Gomez, though.
I was thinking as a reliever with Hagadone
forgot we were just doing SPs.
Hagadone has nasty, nasty stuff. I think he’s going to be a Closer.
Potential deep sleepers
on the Twins (besides A. Salcedo)
Matthew Bashore (not really a sleeper as he was ’09 draftee sandwich round)
Matthew Tone
Cesar Ciurcina
B.J. Hermson
Rene Tosoni is good.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 16, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions
Big Dwyer fan...
nice fastball/curveball in a lefty with size.
Chad James is the other guy from ’09.
Chad Bell LHP and Braden Tullis RHP Rangers
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Brad Hand
Struggled early in Greensboro last year, but had a great second half. Low 90s sinking fastball, plus curve, solid change.
He’ll be in a pitching environment in Jupiter this year, and I’m expecting some breakout numbers.
from the poster
who during last year’s off-season said watch out for Casey Crosby, Alex Avila, and (regrettably) Cale Iorg, I would say Andy Oliver would be the Tiger sleeper. They love his arm and are fully confident that his breaking pitch is/will be back. Could be fast-tracked to the bigs.
Furbush
was actually the only other name I thought about putting down. But I think of prospects in terms of upside or big league readiness..he’s not quite big league ready, nor is he a front end starter IMO.
But I still think there’s a real good possibility of him putting up some good numbers at AA and that leading to him getting a call if a spot-starter is needed late 2010 or 2011. And maybe he could hang on.
Crosby
While he’ll be a highly rated Tiger spec, I think overall he’s a bit underrated, and has that type of potential to sky rocket up lists this year.
2010 Tigers deadweight contracts coming off the books:
Maggs (18M)
Willis (12M)
Bonderman (12.5M)
Robertson (10M)
2011 is the year of the Tiger!
Agreed
A lefty that touches 97, on his first year back from TJ surgery, and dominating? And he’s still very young, at 20/21 he’ll be perfect age for A+, if not young. Dominant.
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Here's Some Deep Guys
Chris Archer – Traded to the Cubs in the DeRosa deal, good stuff, poor command.
Ryan Searle – Australian Cubs hurler, 20 and did well in high A, has potential
Paul Demny – Nationals pitcher, drafted out of high school, first full season was last year, over 1 k/ip, 2.84 k/bb ratio, was hit hard, but looking good.
Brandon King – Drafted by nationals out of West Virginia, looking good first part season.
Cameron Lamb – Another Australian pitcher, great ratios except for walks, which aren’t horrible (4.3/9ip), pretty good stuff, great frame (6’3, 190)
Casey Fry – Young Marlins pitcher, drafted out of HS, scouting reports look decent.
I can see several of those guys breaking through this season, if not all.
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Jefress ~ no mentions
Is Jefress done?
or, conversely, would he not be a “sleeper” if he stays clean and puts up #’s this year?
by DodgersBacktoBrooklyn2011 on Dec 19, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions
Chris Archer...
definitely my favorite Cubs sleeper. Could turn into one of those JJ (Braves) type pitchers…really nice fastball/curveball combo.
Pelzer
I thought he was outstanding at times during his days at South Carolina, though he was a bullpen guy.
Are the Padres committed to keeping him in the rotation?
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Barnese
More on point to this thread … I really like what Nick Barnese’s (always call him “Bar-NEZ-e” even though he pronounces it “Bar-NEESE”) accomplished last season at Bowling Green.
I’d like to hear a true scouting report on him.
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