Top Minor League Arms?
by runreyesrun on Dec 16, 2009 11:41 AM EST
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PrintIt seems over the past year a lot of the games top young arms have graduated up to the major leagues.
I'm curious to see what people opinions are of the top 10-15 arms out there who have not been called up yet? Aside from Stephen Strasburg of course.
Guys like Neftali / Hanson / / Matusz / Tillman / Wade Davis / Bumgarner were some of the top talent last year. Who takes their places? Hellickson? Matzek? Drabek?
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My top 10, in no partiular order:
Stephen Strasburg
Martin Perez
Kyle Drabek
Casey Kelly
Casey Crosby
Jacob Turner
Mike Montgomery
Tyler Matzek
Shelby Miller
Jeremy Hellickson
*Jarrod Parker (would be in there, but will miss 2010 after TJ surgery)
This is a good start, and I’d agree with most of it. I’d probably have Friedrich in there over a guy like Miller, but you can’t go wrong with any of those mentioned.
I’d also throw in names like: Friedrich (as mentioned), Kyle Drabek, Matt Moore, Jenrry Mejia, Jason Knapp, Jordan Lyles, Simon Castro, Jake Arrieta, Ethan Martin
There are a lot of high upside arms I could list, and we’re probably missing someone big, but these guys really stick out to me.
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by koolkerns101 on Dec 16, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Check that. Meant to have Chris Withrow on there, and not Drabek (since he was previously mentioned).
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by koolkerns101 on Dec 16, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I actually LOVE your inclusion of Miller
I truly think he will reach his ace upside
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Top 15 (in no order)
I assume we’re not including guys with MLB experience:
Stephen Strasburg
Martin Perez
Casey Kelly
Tyler Matzek
Christian Friedrich
Jenrry Mejia
Matt Moore
Casey Crosby
Jeremy Hellickson
Kyle Drabek
Chris Withrow
Simon Castro
Jacob Turner
Julio Teheran
Mike Montgomery
There could be an oversight, but I think I hit the major ones.
Agree on Montgomery
He’s going to be a solid #2-type, I think.
That's why they call them business sox
Love Matt Moore
Eliminate some walks and he’s a dominant pitcher. Seems like he gets overlooked in the Rays system.
Yeah...
Him and Casey Crosby. I keep hearing people say theyre “underrated.” I think those two are pretty much everyone’s favorite, sexy choices to be the next great pitching prospects. They might be slightly overrated, actually. Little is ever said of their flaws and what they need to work on.
Crosby
He was underrated around July, but he definitely isn’t now (I don’t think Moore was ever underrated). They’re both borderline top 50 prospects and I think that’s about right considering how far away they are and the control issues of each.
You beat me to Rondon.
I was going to add Daniel Hudson, but I forgot that he got called up in September.
Not sure on Rondon
I’ve got him for fantasy, so trust me I would love for him to be hyped and touted as much as possible. But the lack of an out pitch scares me greatly.
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Rondon is probably still a year away.
I agree with you. Although he had excellent stats at AA and AAA this year, Rondon probably still needs another year of seasoning. He still leaves the ball over the plate too much… However, I think he could become a #2 in a few years.
by Alex Trebek on Dec 17, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Year away?
I think he’ll be up by July at the latest.
They started fast tracking him to come up in the pen last year before they pulled the plug on the season. Plus, its not like the rotation is full of guys better than him right now.
Allow me to rephrase that.
I think that despite Rondon’s excellent stats last year, he’s far from a finished product. Could he positively contribute to the Indians this year? Probably. But I think that he needs to learn how to pitch to the corners of the plate more before he can truly realize his potential. To sum it up, I’m a Rondon believer who thinks he can become a #2 in the future, but I don’t see a Tommy Hanson-esqe debut in 2010.
What about Bumgarner?
I know Bumgarner’s stock has dropped a little, but he still has to be mentioned among the top minor league arms.
by thefordhamflash on Dec 16, 2009 5:14 PM EST reply actions
Jason Knapp
Although there are some injury concerns, if he can stay healthy, he will shoot up the prospect rankings. He possesses a filthy fastball and curveball combination that will carve up batters as he moves up the levels.
right now
I think there is a case for top 25, think he’s below top 15 right now. He has to stay healthy first.
I think people are seriously underrating Knapp.
He possesses many of the characteristics that people rave about in others – like Mejia, for instance. Yes, injury questions and some other issues, but he has a really high ceiling.
Not underrating
but until he can show he can make through a full season without injury than it’s hard to put him in the top 15, i think. As you can see from my own list, i excluded Parker for that exact reason.
by MightyMoose on Dec 16, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Wheeler?
Would Zack Wheeler make it on anyone’s list?
Im not going to try to give a list because I dont know enough about each team’s power prospects to sort them, but I will say that from the Dodgers, Withrow, E. Martin, Aaron Miller and Garrett Gould all have ace potential.
A video of Withrow’s FB/Curve combo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4L32qiplAg&NR=1
FB reaches 99 at times, and the curve is NASTY.
A great look at the curve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTewFQxSujA&feature=related
Martin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hWflCjzBtY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btL2Dk-8REo&feature=related
Gould had the best curveball in the draft according to scouts last year and Miller was a beast last year, in his debut… they all deserve a spot, pretty high up IMO
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 20, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions
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