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Top-10 Prospects of the Last 20 years: Hitters

In BA's Atlanta chat, Bill Ballew made what I felt was a bit of an outlandish claim, that this year's undisputed top position player prospect, Jason Heyward, was "the best all-around player" he had seen in more than 25 years of covering the minors.  I had a clear idea of who I thought the two best prospects in history were, and decided to go into the archive to round out the field and compare.

Note: This is based on prospect rankings at a particular point in time.  this means a couple of things: first, a player can be ranked more than once if his performance in more than one season in the minors justifies a historically high ranking.  Second, this will include players who didn't necessarily go onto have hall of fame careers.  This is based on what we knew about these players at the time they were ranked, and looking at busts as well as successes gives an interesting perspective and shows that even historically great prospects aren't necessarily sure things.

 

So, here are my top-10 hitting prospects since BA began publishing its top-100 lists online in 1990. Feel free to chime in with your own.

10. John Olerud, 1990

With no minor league track record to go on, BA played it safe and ranked Olerud #3 in 1990.  On talent alone, he was the clear #1.  Olerud was drafted in the 3rd round by the Blue Jays and signed for $575,000, nearly twice what the #1 overall pick signed for. No player in the modern era has come out of college as polished as John Olerud: he was a brilliant defensive first baseman with one of the prettiest swings scouts had ever seen, and rather than mess around with the minor leagues, the Blue Jays plugged him right into the lineup the next year, where he put up a 117OPS+ without ever experiencing a single minor league plate appearance.

9. Cliff Floyd, 1994

His career was de-railed by injuries, but Floyd was a mega-prospect.  Floyd was always a great athlete, but for some reason, he started his minor league career at 1B.  Moved to the OF in 1994, Floyd's bat took off.  He hit .329/.412/.600, smacking 26 home runs and stealing 31 bases as a 20-year-old in Double-A.  Other batters like Alex Gordon and Jay Bruce have had similarly impressive seasons at comparable levels, but Floyd's season stands out for its combination of monster stats, young age, and no real flaws.  He ran well, he played good outfield defense, he drew a lot of walks, and didn't strike out.  It took Floyd a few years to figure things out, and injuries robbed him of the kind of career his 1993 minor league season suggested he was capable of, but Floyd had a fantastic (if injury-shortened) peak from 1999-2003 where he hit .300/.383/.540, good for a 139OPS+ during that time.

8. Joe Mauer, 2005

Mauer was an enigma to me at the time.  BA had never ranked a guy #1 who had displayed as little power as Mauer had shown in his minor league career.  Apparently scouts know what they're talking about sometimes.  2005 was the second straight year Mauer ranked #1 on the BA list, and he would have been disqualified from consideration if not for an injury that kept him on the major league sidelines all of 2005.  Mauer was a pure tools guy from a prospect standpoint, but I'm choosing his 2005 ranking, because it came on the heels of Mauer finally showing the power scouts unanimously promised was coming.  In his injury-shortened MLB debut, Mauer hit .308 with a .162 ISO, with 15 of his 33 hits going for extra bases.

7. Ben Grieve, 1998

Our first bust on the list.  Ben Grieve serves as a reminder of why we should always take the stats of guys with old player skills with a massive lump of salt.  We can say we've evolved, but let's be honest: if someone equalled the numbers Grieve put up in his 1997 season today, the prospecting community would be drooling all over him.  This was as close to a perfect minor league season as it gets.  In his year-21 season, Grieve hit .350/.461/.640 with 31 home runs, playing the majority of the season in the pitcher-friendly Southern League.  He had a few ok seasons, but the lesson from Grieve's 1997 is clear: when people preach caution on guys like Lars Anderson and Eric Hosmer, pay attention.

6. J.D. Drew, 1999

Drew and agent Scott Boras cultivated an air of mystery around the player who waited 2 years after his first first-round selection to play a single game in the minors.  Drew, as most of you remember, went #2 overall in 1997, but held out and signed the next year as the 5th overall pick.  Drew's small-sample-size minor league debut showed that Boras isn't necessarily full of it all of the time, as he jumped straight into Double-A and showed that Boras's claims about him being major league ready really weren't far off base.  Drew cruised through Double-A and Triple-A, proving one of the hardest outs in recent memory, posting a .328/.444/.627 line in limited action in AA before hitting .316.471/.519 in his brief stint in AAA.  These numbers alone wouldn't justify ranking anyone this high due to small sample sizes, but the combination of Drew's storied prospect history, his excellent tools, and the fact that no college player in recent memory has jumped straight into Double-A and excelled this quickly put Drew way up there for me.  Drew has gone on to have an excellent career when not injured, and is one of the more underrated players in the game today despite playing for the uber high-profile Red Sox.  How many players could ever run a career .896 OPS over more than 5000 plate appearances and only have one all-star appearance to show for it?

5. Jason Heyward, 2010

This is as high as I can see myself ranking Heyward, not through any fault of his own, but because of the absolutely incredible performances that rank ahead of him.  Everyone knows what Heyward's done.  I was preaching a conservative ranking on the kid after 2009.  After all, I reasoned, he was a corner outfielder who had very good but not gaudy stats.  In 2009, Heyward shut me up in a big way.  It's not the raw stat line that impresses me most about Heyward.  Several other players have put up comparable batting lines in the last few years.  The three things that put Heyward in the company of the giants on this list for me are A) his age relative to league (least important), B) the fact that he improved upon his promotion to Double-A from great to really great, and C) (most important), the fact that he was able to maintain a .259 ISO in Double-A while striking out in fewer than 10% of his plate appearances.  That combination of power and contact is unbelievably rare, evoking a player who ranks just a couple spots above Heyward on this list. 

4. Matt Wieters, 2009

In recent catching prospect history, only Mike Piazza has ever put up a minor league season remotely similar to what Matt Wieters did in 2008.  The two main differences between Piazza in 1992 and Weiters 16 years later are that Wieters was a year younger and flashed an above average glove, while Piazza was always a defensive liability at the position.  Wieters combined the glove of Mauer with the offensive performance of Piazza.  We don't know yet whether Wieters' major league career will live up to his historic 2008 season, but I can't wait to find out.


3. Vladimir Guerrero, 1997

Guerrero fell just short of BA's #1 prospect ranking this year, and his 1996 season combined with that of the #1 prospect that year (yet to come) show why that was the most exciting minor league season in recent memory.  Guerrero, like Heyward, combined ridiculous power with the ability to make contact at a level that would make Ichiro jealous.  I grappled with the order of Guerrero/Wieters/Heyward, and on Guerrero v. Heyward specifically, I gave the edge to Vlad because A) he ran his > .600 SLG the entire season, while Heyward's came during a mid-season breakout, and B) Guerrero ran his contact rate over the entire season, while again, Heyward's amazing combination of plus-plus power and plus-plus contact emerged at Double-A (Heyward's contact and stats at Myrtle Beach were merely great, not quite ridiculously historically great.  Vlad played at that level all season).  Heyward was 2 years younger than Vlad, but the fact that he didn't put up the numbers over a full season still justifies ranking him below for me.  If Heyward spends another full season in the minors (which I doubt), I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn in a performance that would cause me to rank him above Vlad, but I can't do it yet.

2. Andruw Jones, 1997

One of the most absurdly ridiculous performances from a 19-year-old ever. Andruw Jones was probably too good for the minor leagues when the season began, but the Braves understandably refrained from skipping him from the SALLY league straight to the majors.  On the way, Jones hit .339/.421/.652 over 3 levels of the minors, smacking 34 home runs and swiping 30 bases while exciting scouts as a potential gold glove center fielder.

1. Alex Rodriguez, 1996

A-rod's 1995, like Jones' 1996, saw him play at a level unheard of for a 19-year-old, either before or since.  Drafted as a toolsy shortstop with questions about his bat, A-rod advanced quicker than anyone could have possibly predicted.  In 1995, A-Rod hit .360/.411/.654 in the first half of the season, and then was called up to serve as a bench player during the Mariners' 1995 playoff run.  2 things about A-rod's '95 cause me to rank him about Jones' '96 season: first, he logged substantial time in Triple-A while Jones' performance came at A+/AA with only a 12 game cup of coffee in AAA, and second, A-rod was an excellent defensive shortstop. Andruw Jones was clearly the best center field prospect the game had seen since Ken Griffey, Jr, but other players have shown similar (though ultimately inferior) abilities.  Scouts could look at young CFs and say "that kid's an Andruw Jones-type of player" and not get laughed out of the room.  Alex Rodriguez, on the other hand, was a class all by himself.  There have been other great shortstop performances in the minor leagues, but 15 years later nobody has ever looked at a prospect and drawn a comp to Alex Rodriguez with a straight face.  Shortstops with A-rod's glove get ranked in the top-30 if they merely project to hold their own on offense (see: Andrus, Elvis).  Shortstops with great bats come along, but very rarely are any good at the position (see Wood, Brandon).  In 1995, A-Rod was the best defensive shortstop in the minors and the best offensive prospect alive.  The rest, as they say, is history.

 

Honorable Mention: Justin Upton, 2007 - missed prospect eligibility by 10 at-bats, but would have been the clear #1 that year, and would have made my top-10 right ahead of Joe Mauer had he met BA's definition of "prospect."

Also Received Consideration: Chipper Jones, 1994, Jay Bruce, 2008, Josh Hamilton, 2001, and Mark Teixiera, 2003, Alex Rodriguez, 1995, Andruw Jones, 1996.

 

Pitchers will come in a few days.

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I agree that Ballew overstated the situation with Heyward.

However, I think you may have tipped the odds in your favor by the way you set up this poll :)

by son.of.sourman on Nov 9, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

Ballew might not be overstating things for himself

But the problem is that Ballew has ALWAYS been the worst writer BA has. I cancelled by BA subscription for a few years because they had Ballew as the beat writer covering the Rays. He just generally doesn’t seem to be on the same wavelength as the other writers there, and not in a rational way.

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by Brickhaus on Nov 10, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Some Seasons that come to mind

Nick Johnson 2000-He spent 1999 hitting .345/.525/.548 as a 20-year-old in AA, which was on the heels of a .317/.466/.538 in the FSL. At this point it would have been reasonable to assume we had the second coming of Frank Thomas on our hands.

Adrian Beltre 1998-Coming off a year spent hitting .317/.407/.561 as an 18-year-old in the FSL.

by njasdjdh on Nov 9, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

Its hard to say anyone was better then A-rod

But, Heyward certainly ranks up there with teh best prospects in the last 25 years. Just to be mentioned in the same breath as some of these guys really shows just how great of a prospect he is. This Braves fan can’t wait to see him in ATL.

by Braves1983 on Nov 9, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

H.M.

But yeah i think he should be on there over Cliff Floyd or Delmon Young maaaaybeee….

Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Nov 9, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

C.J.

I struggled with Jones, particularly vs. Floyd, but he never had the kind of monster seasons the other guys on this list had. Sure, he was a shortstop in the minors, but Jones’ best season in the minors he put up a .325/.390/.500 line. Jones was a great prospect to be sure, but the performance doesn’t stand out to me as historically special. Baseball America agreed, and ranked Floyd ahead of Jones in 1994.

by slamcactus on Nov 10, 2009 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Delmon Young

Was he even mentioned? Because the hype surrounding him was unheard of. And what about Rickie Weeks?

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by ILuvDaBush on Nov 10, 2009 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Young...

Young was a good prospect, but his 2004-2005 seasons and his resulting prospect status have nothing on any of the seasons mentioned here. He had great power for how young he was, but he was a corner outfielder with good defensive tools but horrible defensive skills, and his offensive performance always had major red flags, from his life-long aversion to drawing walks to his 285/.303/.447 line in half of one of the seasons where he was ranked the #1 prospect.

The hype surrounding Young wasn’t in any way unheard of. That’s just the year that minor league baseball coverage exploded. Young was the biggest name around the year ESPN teamed up with Baseball America, the year this blog got started, the year milb.com became infinitely more accessible to the public, and the year Bryan Smith got rolling on Wait ’Till Next Year. The fact that you mention Weeks as a candidate underscores this point: Weeks never ranked higher than 8th overall on a BA list, and he hit .259/.366/.407 as a 21-year-old in AA the year he earned that ranking. He had a great half-season in Triple-A the year he made his major league debut, but he was nowhere near a “historic” level, and he lost his prospect eligibility that year anyway. He got press because he was the guy the Rays considered taking over Young, who in turn got press because he was the biggest name in town the first time there was any press to get.

by slamcactus on Nov 10, 2009 3:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Whups...

I was wrong, Weeks ranked 5th in 2004. There were, however, 3 position players in front of him.

by slamcactus on Nov 10, 2009 3:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Pujols

A player with “old player skills”, and a JuCo to boot. Oh you scouts and your prejudices.

by CoolCat23 on Nov 9, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

Um...

1) Pujols was a shortstop in JuCo, began his major league career as a 3B/OF, and has been the best defensive 1B alive for the past several years. Just because a player has power and patience doesn’t make him an “old player skills” guy.

2) really guys? The takeaway from the work I did was that I’m sniping at guys with old player skills? All I said was approach with caution. It was like 15 words of a 1000+-word post. Geez.

by slamcactus on Nov 9, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this is an attack against scouts

At least, that’s how I read it…

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by David Tokarz on Nov 17, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

"the best defensive 1B alive for the past several years"

let me get some of those drugs you’re taking. apparently they’re pretty mind altering.

by richieabernathy on Nov 17, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Pujols...

has compiled the second-highest UZR among first basemen of all players since the statistic began getting recorded in 2002. #1 is Darrin Erstad, who hasn’t been a regular 1B since 2005. The Fielding Bible’s plus/minus system puts him as the best defensive first baseman from 2006-2008, a full 40 plays better than #2.

The two best defensive metrics that use ball-in-play data say Pujols has been fantastic. The Fan Scouting Reports the past several years have agreed.

I don’t know what makes you think this opinion is wrong, but fans and advanced metrics alike disagree with you.

by slamcactus on Nov 17, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

He's actually...

been the #1 1B since 2004 according to the Fielding Bible, not just 2006, though the 2006-2008 leader board gives him the most impressive margin over #2.

by slamcactus on Nov 17, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Which...

is not to say I’m not open to an argument that I’m wrong, I’d just appreciate something more than “you’re on drugs” when the weight of authority seems to agree with me.

by slamcactus on Nov 18, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It wouldn't make your list, but as a White Sox fan, my favorite was Jeremy Reed 2003

Split year between adv A and AA (AA extreme pitcher’s park) starting the year as a 21 yo.

Combined line: .373/.453/.537/.990

BB/K ratio for year: 70/36
45 stolen bases
50 xtra base hits
95 RBIs

by 3E8 on Nov 9, 2009 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

I remember how happy I was as a Mariners fan to get this guy.

Not to mention a good defensive catcher with big pop in the young Miguel Olivo! Can’t lose with those two, right?

by PissedMick on Nov 11, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Questions on A-Rod's bat?

I don’t recall this at all, however I also didn’t pay a ton of attention at the time neither. I do recall he was a huge prospect at the time, and I have a hard time believing that any giant prospect had questions about his ability to hit.

by Sethy on Nov 10, 2009 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

A-Rod

wasn’t thought of as a surefire hall of fame-level bat when he was drafted. Promising sure, but he was a slick-fielding high school shortstop. The projectability was there, but the certainty wasn’t. Lou Piniella wanted the Ms to draft Darren Dreifort with the #1 pick over A-rod because he was safer.

So yeah, A-rod had a good bat when he was drafted, but he was seen as a risky pick, and it wasn’t for his defense.

by slamcactus on Nov 10, 2009 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow...

Darren Dreifort, remember THAT guy? I don’t have anything intelligent to say, just Dreifort, wow…..

by killa on Nov 10, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Dreifort

I had Dreifort in my fantasy league. The guy who had ARod traded Mickey tettleton for him when he was still in high school, i think. That guy still has A-Rod in our league. I think Dreifort turned into sand in my hands and got released some time in the ’90s.

I also had ben grieve and beltre.

Well, one awesome year out of those 3…

by wobatus on Nov 12, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Cliff Floyd

was a huge prospect. Excellent defensive CF according to felipe Alou but was blocked in Montreal OF by Moises Alou, Marquis Grissom and Larry Walker, with Rondell White also waiting in the wings. That is why he play 1B.

by LCT on Nov 10, 2009 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

Floyd's arm injury

One of the natiest i ever saw. Hundley crushed his arm running to first. Floyd was an awkward 1B. Hundley (Mets) was running out a grounder, Floyd (Expos) had his glove arm up in the first base path, Hundley ran into it. His arm snapped. You could hear it.

by wobatus on Nov 12, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to nitpick...

…but A-Rod had exhausted his prospect eligibility at the end of the ‘95 season (142 major league ABs in ’95, combined with 54 major league ABs in ’94). I only know this because I looked it up — I always realized he shot through the minors, but holy crap, it was even more impressive than I’d thought.

Overall though, great piece. It’s a really interesting premise, and I look forward to your pitchers list.

by PhillyFriar on Nov 10, 2009 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

By...

today’s standards, but BA ranked him #1 in ‘96. Not sure what their cutoff was back then. I used BA eligibility at the time and place for simplicity’s sake.

by slamcactus on Nov 10, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

John Olerud was awesome, one of my favorite players growing up.

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by Evan_S on Nov 10, 2009 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

real men have a hole in their skulls too, apparentl ;)

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by Zonis on Nov 11, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Rickey Henderson

used to play with a guy who had the same thing.

by mookstra2 on Nov 11, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Skipping the Minors

Just curious, who are the players who have skipped the minors since Olerud. Is that list maintained somewhere?

by DavidRF on Nov 11, 2009 9:51 AM EST reply actions  

Has it happened?

I mean, even Ryan Zimmerman spent half a year in the minors.

by PissedMick on Nov 11, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks...

Many of those guys are imports from other countries or didn’t stick in the majors and went down to the minors for more seasoning… but this does answer my question.

by DavidRF on Nov 11, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

so basically, Abbott's the only one since.

I didn’t know he had skipped the minors, but I would’ve sworn Abbott debuted before Olerud.

by PissedMick on Nov 11, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Why isn't Ichiro on there?

I know that he didn’t skip the minors in Japan, but he still went straight to the major league level in the US.

by JayWise on Nov 16, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

first paragraph
This is a list of baseball players who went directly to the major leagues. They are distinguished as a group by the fact that they made their North American professional debut with a Major League Baseball franchise without previously having played at the professional level, such as minor league affiliates of major league teams, the Negro Leagues, Japanese professional leagues, or independent professional teams.

by jibs on Nov 16, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Question on ARod

Why did he only spend 5 seasons with the M’s instead of 6 full seasons?

by LCT on Nov 11, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

But under the current CBA, Super 2’s still have 6 years of team control — it’s just that they’re arbitration eligible for 4 of them instead of the standard 3.

Not sure of the answer to LCT’s question, but I can think of two possibilities: (1) that the service time rules were different 15 years ago; or (2) that A-Rod signed some sort of major league deal after he was drafted.

by PhillyFriar on Nov 12, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

They lost him after 2000 because they used him as an 18-year-old during the 1994 strike year. Whoops.

by jonk1982 on Nov 14, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

blalock...

How close was Hank Blalock to receiving consideration? In 2001, in his age 20 season he put up a 380/437/557 line in 63 games at high a and a 327/413/544 line in 68 games at AA with 65 walks and 69 ks combined(actually had more walks than strikeouts at AA)

by CDFAN on Nov 22, 2009 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

Blalock...

received consideration but was a somewhat early cut. He had a great year in 2001, and was an excellent prospect, but he didn’t have the gaudy performance of the rest of the guys on this list or the “generational talent” label that got guys like Chipper Jones in consideration. Nothing against Blalock at all, though, to say that I consider him more in the 15-25 range than 10-15 :)

by slamcactus on Nov 22, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Pitchers

When will the “Pitchers” post be posted? Can you say “post be posted”?

by rmarx on Nov 23, 2009 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

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