BP BAL Top 15
by rdf8585 on Nov 9, 2009 12:04 PM EST
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PrintFive-Star Prospects
1. Brian Matusz, LHP
Four-Star Prospects
2. Josh Bell, 3B
3. Jake Arrieta, RHP
4. Zach Britton, LHP
Three-Star Prospects
5. Matt Hobgood, RHP
6. Brandon Erbe, RHP
7. Brandon Synder, 1B
8. Mychal Givens, SS
9. Caleb Joseph, C
Two-Star Prospects
10. Brandon Waring, 1B/3B
11. Cameron Coffey, RHP
Four more:
12. Steve Johnson, RHP
13. Kam Mickolio, RHP
14. Troy Patton, LHP
15. Michael Ohlman, C
Bell over Arrieta is somewhat surprising, but Arrieta is knocked for being mostly fastball with questionable secondary pitches. It kinda makes you wonder if he doesn't ultimately end up at the back end of a bullpen.
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Why do you think that?
He put up good stats in AA but wasn’t there long enough to face teams repeatedly. The Eastern league also favored pitchers heavily this season.
Even atheists believe in Matt Wieters
because hes a 21 year old
who kinda dominated AA for 38 innings only giving up 24 hits… and striking out 1 per inning….
this guys fastball has added velocity as stated by himself and also he is VERY deceptive… he should be top 10 FOR sure maybe even top 8
Johnson?
No way. Extreme flyball pitcher who throws nothing especially well. His deception has allowed him to do well with less polished prospects. It is not going to continue this way.
lol
i thought ht would get exposed when he went to AA but looks like that didnt happen..
what makes u think hes get exposed as he moved higher up… its not like hes some kind of soft tosser..
thats the only argument there is tho
and its better then 10 innings…
38 is not that small..
Hobgood
Just drafted in the top ten in this years draft, and just a 3 star prospect.
I think BA is trying to tell you something about that pick Mr. Angelos. And not with a lot of subtlety either.
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I dont like Britton as a 4 star. I like Britton, but I think Id rather have Hobgood and maybe even Erbe. Id move Britton down a spot and make him a three star. I think he fits a lot better between Hobgood and Erbe.
I also am glad Snyder wasnt given much credit. Very overrated guy right there. Seemed like lots of people were jumping on the Snyder bandwagon this year. He’s a bad 1B with sub par power. He’s a lot closer to an organizational guy than a top prospect.
With regards to Arrieta, I dont see him moving to the pen, but his upside is fairly limited compared to what we thought at this time last year. There is a lot I like about Arrieta. He’s a strike thrower with a wide base and looks durable. He looked like he could be something more than a mid guy last year, but couldn’t fortify his gains and is probably alot closer to a Michael Bowden than he is to a Matusz or Tillman.
This system thinned out pretty quickly – but mostly due to promotion/graduation. I was a little surprised to hear the negative reports on Xavier Avery, who is a guy who I had kept in mind as a semi-interesting sleeper:
Avery got some support from scouts, but there are so many who just saw him as a speed only guy who is really not a good baseball player. He’s also a VERY bad outfielder whose routes and instincts are borderline laughable.
Another thing that interested me was KG had Felix Pie as the organization’s fifth best under age 25 talent, behind only Wieters, Jones, Matusz and Tillman. He had this to say in the comments:
I really think he got jerked around and just needed some low pressure playing time to figure things out. I believe in the tools and think you’ll see a solid .280/.350/.440 type from here on out, maybe even better.
Here’s an interesting question – Which toolsy young OFer is more likely to have a breakthrough season in 2010: Delmon Young or Felix Pie? (Not sure Delmon even qualifies as “toolsy” anymore, actually).
I'm the exact opposite
on Britton. I’d move him up one, over Arrieta. I really, really like Britton. Not a TOR guy, but a potentially solid middle of the rotation arm, and maybe a tinge better. I prefer him over Erbe, and I think it’s just too early to grade Hobgood higher. Now … I don’t think Arrieta and Britton are 4-stars. I’d have both of them as 3 stars, but I prefer Britton as the 3rd prospect in the system, but that’s me.
I think that's the point...
Goldstein was trying to make re: Britton. Opinions vary widely, so winding up somewhere in the middle makes some sense. “Low” four star is probably the middle ground, and that’s nothing to sneer at, certainly.
Pie
Pie is already a solid major league hitter who can play up the middle for a team that doesn’t have Adam Jones. Delmon Young isn’t a good hitter and has little defensive value and sinking.
They both had somewhat good second halfs last year
I would also take Pie, but its an interesting question to me.
One seems far more sustainable
Setting aside defensive value for a moment, Young’s second half was 300/322/502. Like Franceour’s production with the Mets, it’s a nice, productive line, but it still shows that the core problem has not been fixed. And as you alluded to, wondering whether Young even counts as toolsy anymore, he looks more and more like his brother (i.e., a DH) every day.
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