BA MIL Top 10
by rdf8585 on Nov 23, 2009 12:30 PM EST
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1. Alcides Escobar, ss
2. Brett Lawrie, 2b
3. Mat Gamel, 3b
4. Eric Arnett, rhp
5. Jonathan Lucroy, c
6. Kentrail Davis, of
7. Zach Braddock, lhp
8. Lorenzo Cain, of
9. Jake Odorizzi, rhp
10. Kyle Heckathorn, rhp
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Best Hitter for Average Brett Lawrie
Best Power Hitter Brett Lawrie
Best Strike-Zone Discipline Jonathan Lucroy
Fastest Baserunner Lee Haydel
Best Athlete D'Vontrey Richardson
Best Fastball Jeremy Jeffress
Best Curveball Cody Scarpetta
Best Slider Zach Braddock
Best Changeup Amaury Rivas
Best Control Amaury Rivas
Best Defensive Catcher Carlos Corporan
Best Defensive Infielder Alcides Escobar
Best Infield Arm Alcides Escobar
Best Defensive Outfielder Logan Schafer
Best Outfield Arm Brendan Katin
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surprised
that cain is in there and someone like Jeffress is not.
Yes, I know his marijuana problems, but once he moves to the bullpen I would expect him to take off and be a power armed back end guy. Cain Doesn’t hit for average, power, or have elite speed
I understand leaving Jeffress out
It’s not just marijuana. It’s marijuana despite knowing it will get him banned. It’s another long suspension when he really needs that development time. I’m not particularly confident he’ll ever learn to throw strikes more consistently OR that he’ll keep himself on the mound. The fact that both are such great concerns is enough to knock him out of the top ten for me. I don’t think weed is immoral or a terrible detriment to a person’s character, but the inability to stop in the face of losing his career is more than a bad sign. And again, for a guy who walks way too many people and has never succeeded at double-A, losing 100 games of development is pretty terrible.
I might slot him in at number ten as a lottery ticket, but I understand leaving him out.
like the poll suggests
I am somewhat surprised that Scarpetta and Wily Peralta didn’t make the list. They both have impressive stuff as well as statistical resumes that are better than many on the list. I suppose the system is fairly deep with C+ or better prospects, so it’s all a matter of preference towards the back end of the list.
Scarpetta
I was on my way here to voice my disappointment in him being left off, then i saw the poll. I would have figured he was above Kyle Heckathorn at least seeing as they’re the same age and Heckathorn’s numbers are less than impressive in rookie ball (small sample) while Scarpetta’s are worth watching (just needs to find some control) as he even got to touch the tip of AA.
Here's the Brewer's Top 30 as rated by Haudricourt
I don’t like his list so much as far as even having Jeffress in the top 30 being that he’s a doobie away from being banned for life. In addition, Caleb Gindl’s ranking is low for me.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/71566517.html
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
banned for life from the minors
you guys need to get over the weed issue. not saying he’s smart or even deserves to be ranked top 10, but the weed argument is weak
What good will that distinction do him?
He’s closer to being banned from the minors than he is to being majors-ready. So you think he’s going to get his act and game together in Japan, then come back? Getting yourself docked 150 games of development is not a weak argument against a pitcher who has a lot of developing to do.
Well
The guy who brought it up here said that Jeffress doesn’t belong in the top 30 because one more time and he’s banned for life, which really reads like he thinks Jeffress is banned from baseball for life. While it certainly wouldn’t be good for Jeffress to get banned from the minors it’s not the end of his career, so I don’t see how the weed thing should keep Jeffress out of the top 30. Like daveh33 says, he doesn’t deserve to be ranked in the top 10(where his talent probably puts him, especially with upside minded BA) but it certainly shouldn’t take him out of the top 30. I don’t see a problem with him ranked 21st to be honest.
Yeah, the lost developmental time sucks for the Brewers, but just because he is suspended for 100 games does that mean they can’t work with him in instructs or something in that time frame? Couldn’t the roving pitching instructor work with him? I know it’s not the ideal way to try and do things like fix his control, but it’s not like he has to sit at home getting high all that time right? There are options for the team to work with him and hopefully get some things fixed, both pitching wise and with his decision making.
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For the record
I wasn’t supporting keeping him out of the top 30. Given his upside and the Brewers system not being super deep, it’s silly to keep him out of the top 30 altogether.
+1
Why did he drop off?
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by David Tokarz on Nov 24, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Easy answer
Bad bodied catcher with mediocre defense who needed to hit. He didn’t hit, he couldn’t stay really healthy, so he got passed over. You could argue that he could be towards the back end of the top 10, but I have no qualms with him being dropped lower.
I would love to see a...
Brewers team with Lucroy as the starter and Salome as the backup. The Brewers have a had basically a offensve black hole at catcher for some time now (Kendall (post-prime), Miller, Rivera, Perez, Moeller, Matheny, etc.)
wow
this is a horrible list. Scarpetta is ranked 13th on the top 30 and behind a guy in Mark Rogers, someone who has been on the operating table more often than the pitchers mound? This is all quite puzzling considering they were high on Scarpetta a year ago, even touting him as the system’s 2009 breakout player. I don’t see how Scarpetta isn’t in the top 10 — and in it somewhat comfortably.
outsourcing
Scarpetta was way, way up in the league top 20s, like in the MWL top 10.
Scarpetta
One of the best pitchers I saw in the MWL this year. He had a filthy breaker to go with a very nice fastball. I’m shocked to see him out of the Top 10.
by Outshined_One on Nov 23, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
brett lawrie
hopefully = the next jeff kent
Lawrie=Kent
Hopefully without being a jerk…
Probably not a jerk
He’s Canadian.
But probably not Jeff Kent either, because that’s an awful lot to hope for.
"without being a jerk"
good thing I had finished my coffee before reading this, because my computer would be ruined. hahaha
by richieabernathy on Nov 24, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
steep
There has been a nearly 20% drop in support for Scarpetta being top 10 worthy in the past several hours.
Brewers Pitching
Maybe I’m in the minority but I don’t know if either Heckathorn or Arnett are in my top-5 for Brewers’ pitching prospects.
I would definitely take Braddock/Odorizzi/Peralta/Scarpetta over those two. Beyond those guys, then you begin to compare them to Rivas/Anundsen/Butler. And then you have the two wild cards in Mark Rogers/Jeremy Jeffress.
And the name that I loved coming out of this draft, and I’m still ecstatic my Brewers were able to sign, is Brooks Hall. Heckathorn, to me, would be behind him (but I also believe Heckathorn is more likely than Braddock to be reliever-ized at the ML-level.).
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
Its not the list
Its the system thats pretty short.
Apart from Escobar, Lawrie and Gamel, the Brewer farm system is pretty weak. There are some raw players on the top 30 list in the system like Arnett, Heckathorn, Odirizzi, Davis and Richardson, but apart from those 8 guys, there isnt much spectacular in the system.
Scarpetta is a bottom of the rotation type of guy, if he can keep his weight down and command the fastball, Braddock is going to be a bottom of the rotation guy as well. And the rest of the players on the top 30 are either guys falling in stock, relief pitchers or guys with not much upside.
Lucroy
May not be spectacular but i think he could turn into a pretty good starting catcher, maybe a Mike Stanley type without as much peak power.
I agree
He profiles as a solid catcher, average across the board with his bat and defense. But for the Brewers, that is going to be a bonus after what they have had the past few years.
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