UPDATED - Open Thread: Best of the Unprotected; Top Rule V Prospects
What players did your team not protect that may be a decent pick in the Rule V draft on December 10?
It would be interesting to hear Mr. Sickels thoughts on the subject as well. In the 2009 Rule V, will there be a hidden gem like Josh Hamilton, Joakim Soria, Dan Uggla or a Johan Santana?
Community List so far:
(I did not check for accuracy, eligibility or player postions)
Angels: Tommy Mendoza; Marco Albano; Amalio Diaz
Astros: Koby Clemens, C
Athletics: Anthony Recker, C; Graham Godfrey, P; Jared Lansford, P; Corey Wimberly, Util
Cubs: Maestri; Snyder; Diamond; Camp; Chrinos; Clevenger
Giants: CF Mike McBryde; LHP Ben Snyder
Indians: Matt McBride 1B/LF/C; Yohan Pino P; Josh Tomlin P; Chuck Lofgren P; Stephen Wright P; John Drennan OF
Mets: RHP, Ryan Coultas ; Nick Carr; Hector Pellot
Nationals: IF/OF Leonard Davis; RHSP Erik Arnesen; RHRP Luis Garcia; LHRP Yunior Novoa; RHRP Josh Wilkie
Orioles: Steve Johnson
Phillies: Edgar Garcia right-hander; Tim Kennelly UTIL
Rays: Aneury Rodriguez, P
Reds: Danny Dorn; Dallas Buck; Sean Watson
Rockies: Cole Garner; Craig Baker
Royals: Chris Hayes, P
Twins: IF Steve Singleton; IF Brian Dinkelman; RHP Santos Arias
White Sox: Kyle McCulloch P
Yankees: Colin Curtis; Zack Kroenke; Grant Duff; George Kontos; Kanekoa Texeira; Kevin Whelan.
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Wimberly
I can definitely see him making a Everth Cabrera type impact this year.
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Corey hasn't played that much SS though. He's been more of a utility guy.
I guess you could do worse as a 25th man on a team that doesn’t need more than 24 guys
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by WaddellCanseco on Nov 22, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
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I wouldn’t mind seeing the Dbacks pick him up. As of now we are going into the season with Augie Ojeda, Ryan Roberts and Tony Abreau at 2b. Wimberly could be a better option than any of them
Can Wimberly play infield defense well?
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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 24, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
from what i've read
in the prospect handbook he has solid range and hands, but with a average/below arm.
he obviously is one of the fastest guys in the minors, has hit over .300 in the minors, takes a lot of walks, and rarely strikes out.
i would take the chance at the waiver price if i were the dbacks
Wimberly would be a good pickup for a utility infielder
with potential for more. However, do not underrate Roberts. He is pretty much a league average 2b. He does not have a shiny bat, but his ISO could potentially hit .200 in his prime and he walks in over 10 % of his PAs. Overall, he was a 2.0 WAR in 3/5 of a season, which if you account for some regression over a full season of play is between 2-3 WAR, not bad at all.
by tdot mariner fan on Nov 25, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Roberts
Roberts played well but he was 28 years old and outside of tearing up the Pacific Coast league, his minor league numbers haven’t even been very good.
My guess is he will be our version of Garrett Jones and settle back down to mediocrity next year.
I don't expect Roberts to drop off.
He showed some pretty good tools at the plate last year, and not the kind that regress easily.
Roberts makes reasonable contact, though it’s an area he could improve in (18 K%). Outside of that, he hits for average power, has very good plate discipline, and is an above-average runner. He doesn’t have significant upside, but (a non-fluky BABIP) Kelly Johnson with better defense is a player worth handing a starting spot to.
Compared to Garrett Jones...
who doesn’t have any history of showing the plus power he showed in 2009, Roberts is a much safer bet.
????
Have you seen Garrett Jones’ minor league numbers? Plus power is about the only plus tool he showed in the minors. In the minors: 30 bombs, 24, 21, 23… all coming in pitcher’s parks. Baseball America had him rated the best power hitter in the Twins system in 2006. The power he showed wasn’t as much a surprise as the average was. A .258 minor league hitter batting over .290. Also the BB’s were up dramatically as well.
As far as Roberts: I’m still not sold on the guy. Not saying he can’t be a usefull part (he has some defensive versatility), but outside of what he did in the PCL, he didn’t show he anything that special in the minors. He has a solid eye and a little pop, but if the Dbacks are counting on a line above .250/330/400 with 8-10 homers, they are crazy
Unprotected Indians worth a look
Matt McBride 1B/LF/C?
Yohan Pino P
Josh Tomlin P
Chuck Lofgren P
What happened to Lofgren?
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by WaddellCanseco on Nov 22, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
nothing, and that was the problem.
I don’t think he’s lost velocity . . .but he never had a secondary pitch that played above average and his command didn’t hold up at higher levels. Overrated early on due to low ERAs in low minors, live fastball from left side, and his impressive athleticism (would have made a very good OF prospect as well). He just really hasn’t progressed . . .but maybe somebody could stick him in a major league pen and groom him as a swingman?
Or
Is it too late to switch him to OF?
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by WayneCampbell08 on Nov 23, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
FWIW, I think he has lost a foot or two
on his fast ball since Kinston but most people that follow him closely agree with you. I think the bigger problem has been command even with the big resurrection last year. He is still young enough to come around and might be worth a $50,000 risk but he did not look ML ready in Columbus. Your idea of using him as a swingman is probably a good one and he still looks pretty good in BP.
Also Steven Wright
Nice ratios since moved to the pen.
In relief:
WHIP W/9 K/9 HR/9
1.02 2.14 7.49 0.13
2 exclamation points?
nobody is taking the marginal trade chip throw in. he had a cup of coffee at AA. i wouldn’t be surprised if somebody doesn’t snap up the aging Jim Miller though.
marginal trade chip??
the guy is a stud and dominated AA in 38 innings… he is a legit prospect.. the orioles will regret not protecting him..
Will he stick on a major league roster?
No.
If someone claims him, it would be a huge mistake with an ERA just north of 10.
Danny Dorn - Reds
He murdered the ball every step of the way with the exception of April/May this season. He went .324/.393/.551 from June until the end of the season at AAA. He has platoon splits, but as a lefty, he can get 400 at bats where he will absolutely perform (career .312/.394/.552 in the minors vs RHP with an 18.9% K rate and a 12% walk rate). Could give you time in LF/1B/DH vs right handers. He could help several teams out of the gate in 2010.
The other guy the Reds could lose, although I would be surprised, would be Dallas Buck. He can’t seem to stay healthy, but as a guy with a good arm when healthy, a team may try to take him and stash him in the bullpen with a few rehab stints in the minors throughout the season.
I'm a fan of Dorn
I’d like to see him get a chance somewhere next year. I’d think he could provide some cheap power for someone.
RIP Nick Adenhart
Why Dorn?
Defensively challenged corner outfielders who OPS .800 in AAA are a dime a dozen. I guess he could be a useful 25th man somewhere as a righty pitcher hitting specialist, but he doesn’t have very high upside the best I can tell. Seems like Gabe Gross without the defensive value.
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I just think...
he actually has some potential with the bat that many in the Rule-5 draft this year do not have.
Agreed
There’s not a ton of offense and Dorn does seem to have some pop. I could definitely see a team like the Mets grabbing a guy like him as a fallback in case they don’t sign a first baseman. Just another guy to throw on the board as a possible lefty platoon half to compete with Daniel Murphy, Ike Davis, and Chris Carter. A big market club like that isn’t going to draft any young SP talent, probably even any SP talent period, since its so risky to try and keep any SP eligible for Rule V on a big league roster while trying to build a competitive team. And they might get more utility out of a guy like Dorn than a middle relief gamble.
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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 24, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I could almost sort-of see...
…Jim Negrych as well. And Kyle Bloom, who got picked last year, is eligible again.
Pretty grim lot in Pittsburgh on the whole, though.
Indians
I should have added:
Neil Wagner P
Carlton Smith P
It's just a guess but
I think that Steven Wright is likely to be the first pick from the Indians. Quite a 2nd half once he relieved full time and a solid FIP. The AFL showed McBride isn’t even close to ML catching. He is weak defensively at 1B/LF and his Akron numbers were not as good as Drennen who is younger. Pino does not fit the profile usually associated with draftees but might be worth a run. Although you hate to lose players, none of these players should cause serious concern to the Indians.
Indians
Should have listed Wright and Drennan. Unfortunately I think the Indians have the richest Rule 5 draft pool available of all MLB teams. The curse of a very, very deep system.
I agree with you about the farm system and I
could easily be very wrong but very few of the players left unprotected profile as a good draftee IMO. There are some warts on all of these guys. Lofgren was real inconsistent and does not have a good FIP. Tomlin gives up HRs at a hefty rate. Wagner and Wright may have the best profiles as draftees but neither look to be more than a mid reliever. Don’t know about Pino but he does not have the big fastball generally associated with draftees. Don’t get me wrong. These guys are great depth and might develop into ML players but the Indians protected the real talent. Only Wright made my top 25.
Pino doesn't have a lot of FB...
…but both his slider and curve are quality, and he’s got good command across the board. I think he can be a solid swingman, at least.
Giants
CF Mike McBryde
LHP Ben Snyder
Awaiting his arrival in SF: Jesse English
Nationals
The five most appealing guys from my POV are:
IF/OF Leonard Davis
RHSP Erik Arnesen
RHRP Luis Garcia
LHRP Yunior Novoa
RHRP Josh Wilkie
and realistically Wilkie & Novoa are the only considerations as relievers a team could hide in the bullpen for a season
Twins
I stole this from sethspeaks.net. I don’t think he’ll mind
IF Steve Singleton – He can play three infield positions, hit for average, get on base and has good pop for a middle infielder. His success at AA late in the season says that he could make a big league roster and stick.
IF Brian Dinkelman – Dinkelman had a very strong season at New Britain. He hits the gaps for a lot of doubles. He’s an ideal #2 hitter in a lineup. As a four year college guy, he’s a little bit older, but he could definitely be ready to be a major league regular, either at 2B or as an infield/outfield utility type as he played quite a bit of LF in 2009 as well.
RHP Santos Arias – Young pitcher from the Dominican. Very good fastball. Very good changeup. Still has a long way to go on a curveball/slider. He’s tiny, but he has been very durable. He could be worth a flyer for a team under development.
Also RF David Winfree
is a minor league FA and in AAA and still very young
he could turn out to be Garrett Jones V 2.0
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Nov 22, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Angels
Position Players
Bradley Coon
Ryan Mount
Hainley Statia
Jeremy Moore
PJ Phillips
Nate Sutton
Abel Nieves
Flint Wipke
Pitchers
Tommy Mendoza
Marco Albano
Ken Herndon
Amalio Diaz
Francisco Rodriguez
Gary Browning
What?
So every Angel’s Rule 5 eligible is among the “best of the unprotected”? Color me skeptical.
ALL of them are
didnt you get the memo?
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by knockoutking on Nov 22, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
How was Tommy Mendoza left unprotected?
He’s a 21 yo pitcher who had a 3.72 FIP in AA (though did substantially worse in AAA). Granted, he won’t be an ace, but he’ll probably be a decent major league pitcher, and not too far from now
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by OldProspects on Nov 22, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Cole Garner
Very athletic, toolsy guy, has talent, played very well at Double A despite just 190 AB at Modesto the year before (had injury). I’m kind of surprised the Rockies didn’t protect him, the only concern I have with him is that he doesn’t walk, which could really hurt him at the MLB level.
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
Statline from 2009 @Tulsa
.288/.342/.492 in 392 at-bats, had 16 HR, 64 RBI, 25 2B, 23 BB, 78K, 13 SB, 5 CS.
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Nov 22, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Another possibility from the Rockies
Craig Baker: A reliever who has dominated every level he’s been at, but he hasn’t pitched above Class A Advanced yet.
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Nov 22, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
A pair of Phillies
Edgar Garcia, a 22-year old right-hander, posted mediocre numbers this year and in the AFL this fall, but scouts say that he’s an interesting arm when his stuff is at its best. I highly doubt he’d stick on a 25-man, but someone could gamble on him gaining some consistency.
Tim Kennelly’s a 22-year old Aussie who has played everywhere from catcher to third base to corner outfield. He struggled in 37 games at Double-A after promotion this year, but still controlled the strike zone pretty well. A team looking for a utility guy could take a flier.
Mayo has this on MLB...
He lists Kyle McCulloch (ChW – P), Sean Watson (Cin – SP), Steven Wright (Cle – SP), Chuck Lofgren (Cle – SP), John Drennan (Cle – OF), John Whittleman (Tex – 3B), and Kolby Clemens (Hou – C) as possible picks.
Also, add former 1st RD pick Clint Everts (Was – SS)
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091120&content_id=7695950&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Everts
He’s a RHRP and is actually a minor league free agent right now. He would R5 eligible but I wonder why anyone who would want him would want to restrict him to 25-man only
Sorry
Baseball America had him drafted as a SS and I just went with it. He actually had a pretty good 2009 season. http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/E/Clint-Everts.shtml
McCulloch came to mind
Couldn’t see him as a starter, but maybe he’d pick up a bit on his fastball out of the pen. His weaknesses are lack of raw stuff and lack of third pitch, but as a fastball/change strike-throwing groundball artist with good pitchability, he makes for an intriguing option.
Koby Clemens’ defense must be just beyond terrible. 22 year olds coming off 1.000+ OPS seasons in full-season ball don’t come much cheaper than this.
Carlos Peguero
if some team is that desperate.
Or Andrew Baldwin, he was quite decent for Tacoma and could do good out of the bullpen
Peguero would never stick on the 25 man squad.
And he’d get hosed in the higher levels. I doubt anybody takes this risk.
Phat Andy sucks.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 23, 2009 5:18 AM EST up reply actions
I know Peguero sucks
but maybe some team will only look at the power numbers
by Marinerfanjake on Nov 23, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Cubs have some potential role players
but really, nothing all that enticing. Alessandro Maestri has good raw ability, with a good low-mid 90’s fb and a plus slider, but his control was off after he returned last year. He’s probably the guy with the highest ceiling, as a borderline setup option (although probably more middle relief). The other options would be backup catchers, other middle relief arms. Granted, if someone was acknowledged as a solid asset, they wouldn’t be let go, but I really don’t see a diamond in the rough in the Cubs bunch. Maybe one of the catchers surprises.
Cubs
besides Maestri, the Cubs could lose Snyder, Diamond, Camp, Chrinos and Clevenger.
Mets
Adam Bostick looks like he might be a decent LOOGY, decent numbers in AAA, though the Mets probably would have added him if he were really worth much. No one else exciting though really. A couple of raw power RHP, Ryan Coultas and Nick Carr, but both spent the 2nd half on the DL, probably aren’t healthy, and not ready for MLB either. Best position guy, Hector Pellot, is just not close enough to help, not enough upside to be worth hiding.
Wasn't Bostick granted FA?
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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 24, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
you’re right he’a a minor league FA.
Really no one of interest there at all.
I probably should have just said:
Mets: no one.
Yankees
Nothing super special here, but I could see someone taken. Colin Curtis, Zack Kroenke, Grant Duff, George Kontos, Kanekoa Texeira, Kevin Whelan.
These are the long shots: Chris Malec, Josh Schmidt, Lance Pendleton, Tim Norton, Jon Hovis
Kronke and Curtis are likely to be taken. Whelan or Duff might. Doubt anyone else will.
Kroenke seems interesting
Was his 1.99 ERA in AAA for real?
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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 23, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
55-30 K-BB in 72 1/3 innings, .251 BABIP
I’m guessing no.
Kroenke
was taken in the Rule V last season and then returned. Curtis is coming off a strong AFL season and I could see him getting taken. Grant Duff and Kevin Whelan are interesting potential bullpen arms. Duff had reportedly been hitting high-90’s at the end of the season, and Whelan has been injury-prone but nasty when healthy.
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not quite. but he's still of some value.
He has good velocity from the left side and an arm angle that can be tough on LH batters, but he doesn’t really have much other than the fastball and his command is pretty shaky.
I could see Texeira going
60+ GB% for two years running and still pretty young, seems like someone who could definitely go in a later round if he’s not taken early.
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What a fool I was to defy him"
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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 25, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Rays - Aneury Rodriguez
Appears to be a solid SP or a very good RP and he is ready for AAA. Prob wouldn’t be too good in the majors right now but he’s close and I wish the Rays protected him.
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Royals don't have much interesting
I was disappointed they left P Chris “Disco” Hayes unprotected. He’s the quirky sabermetric submariner who posted a 0.98 ERA in 36 AA innings, but struggled in AAA with a 4.59 ERA. Still, he throws strikes, and if he keeps the ball low he could be an asset in the pen.
Tug Hulett seems like a guy that could be a useful utility infielder. He doesn’t look like a ballplayer at all – short and fat – but he drew walks in the minors, has some pop and can play all infield positions.
Chris Nicoll is a RH reliever who fared okay in AA, but was torched in AAA.
RHP Eduardo Paulino has been a solid, but not spectacular starter considering where he has pitched, but has not pitched higher than the Carolina League.
RHP Gilbert de la Vara I belive was taken in the Rule 5 draft before, but returned. He wasn’t very good last year.
And Wilson Betimet, Brad Thompson, John Bannister, Edwin Bellorin and Jorge Campillo who all signed minor league deals, are all eligible to be taken.
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Man...
Leaving Tug Hulett open like that seems crazy. He’s a little old to be a prospect maybe, but he seems like a near-perfect Rule 5 bat.
I don't want to hear any weak sh*t from Jason Grilli.
by cherub_daemon on Nov 24, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Can he play shortstop?
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think A's former utility IF, Murphy - decent comparison
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by athleticsBB4life on Nov 24, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Might be worth Rule 5ing then
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he was traded to Boston today for a PTBNL...
the Red Sox added him to the 40-man roster and he is no longer eligible for the Rule V
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by athleticsBB4life on Nov 25, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
I thought they needed to be on a roster by a week ago to not be eligible?
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There's probably an exception where the player is traded
Especially when he was DFA’d at the deadline in the first place. There was every chance he was going to wind up a minor league FA anyway if the Royals hadn’t found a trade by Nov. 30th.
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What a fool I was to defy him"
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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 26, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't Tug a minor league free agent, tho?
He was DFA’d back on the 20th.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 25, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Er.
I mean a waiver claim at this point.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 25, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Depends
He could be outrighted to the minors if he so elects, no? We’ll find out on the 30th I suppose.
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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 25, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Was just picked up by Boston.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 25, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Any great gloves here?
Particularly catchers? Wouldn’t mind the Royals picking up a good glove man to backup whoever they decide to start at catcher.
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Just use Pina
He’s not going to hit so just use him for what he is.
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by Kinslerhomer on Nov 24, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Nevin Ashley of the Rays was left unprotected
And supposedly is a great defender, although his CS% dropped some this year. Too bad he can’t hit worth a lick.
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Thoughts on Brian Jeroloman of the Blue Jays
Supposedly he’s a plus defender.
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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 25, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Braves
COle Rorbough or whatver is available. He still has huge potential but also has a very low floor. Wouldn’t mind seeing the Pirates garb him and stick him in the bullpen for the year. Only going to be 23 next year.
We just found...
the best Rule-5 option in my mind right here if he indeed is eligible. Big time upside is correct.
Edgar Osuna as well
Not much upside, marginal fastball, but getting better results now as a 21 year old in AA. Better command than Rohrbough right now so maybe better chance to stick in a big league pen. Has the CB and CH now.
There's a reporter at a local radio station
Who’s a freak about these kind of minute transactions, and he actually looked into Rorbough and called the Braves. They said he’s not eligible because he was a draft and follow. Which makes sense – his potential is just too great to leave him exposed.
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good point
He didn’t actually sign until (about) May 31, 2007.
RULE-5 DRAFT
Has someone compiled a list of all eligible Rule-5 potential draftees. I know the rules, but it would be a lot easier if there was a list to go by from each team. Maybe one compiled by MLB, MiLB, or BA? Just asking.
There's a ton of guys eligible
Only a few that are at all interesting. It would be too difficult listing every player eligible.
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baseball america will compile...
a notable list at some point in the near future
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by athleticsBB4life on Nov 24, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Tigers and Orioles
Tigers: Brayan Villareal
Also Orioles: Josh Perrault and Justin Turner
Tigers also left off Brett Jensen
good K numbers and awkward arm angle might get him drafted. i realize he was like 25 in AA but i could see him drafted.
baseball rules.
Rays also didnt protect Nevin Ashley
if the AFL means anything, hes becoming insane at the plate and decent enough D behind the plate
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Heath Rollins
Lewis “Heath” Rollins is another one who should be eligible. May not be one of the more attractive arms though for a potential bullpen role. Probably slips through.
by acerimusdux on Nov 24, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Ashley
He didn’t hit in over 600 PA in A+ ball, I’m skeptical of a sudden break out in 71 AB in the desert. Probably still a no-hit defensive catcher.
by acerimusdux on Nov 24, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
No.
He has one more year before he has to be added to the 40 man roster. The only Padres I can think of that might be worth a shot: Drew Miller
Incorrect airman
Inman is eligible this year. He was a HS pick in 2005.
With Miller having missed all of last year, I’d be shocked to see a team take a shot.
by realitypolice on Dec 6, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Whittleman is moderately interesting
A 3B with a ton of plate discipline, but no power the last two years, after a solid 2007 at age 20 in low-A.
Well yeah.
There’s a reason he isn’t a great prospect/was left unprotected. Guy hasn’t shown he can hit. Hence “moderately interesting.”
His problem is that he's way too passive
won’t get the fucking bat off his shoulder. He’s also a butcher at 3B.
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by Kinslerhomer on Nov 25, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Yep
Too patient
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yep
heh and I saw one game in Frisco where he let 3, 3 balls threw his legs. It has so bad I was literally LOL’ing.
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by Kinslerhomer on Nov 25, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Another
D’BACKS – RHP Matt Torra (2005 Draft – 1st round pick by Arizona out of UMass – Ended 2009 with Mobile)
Another Twins(s) - unless I missed something-
2004 1st rounders
Kyle Waldrop and Matt Fox, both are primed and ready to play in AAA.
Fox could be a future #5 stater and a good one (maybe Scott Richmond type)
Waldrop looked great out of the bullpen in AA New Britain last year.
I could be wrong though about their eligibility…
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Nov 27, 2009 3:30 AM EST reply actions
they’d have to stay on the major league roster of the 5V drafting team for how long again?
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Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Nov 27, 2009 3:31 AM EST up reply actions
not completely accurate.
there are exceptions for injuries that land players on the DL for extensive periods. i believe the magic number is 90 days on the active roster. if a drafted player gets hurt and, because they’re on the DL, don’t hit the 90 day requirement in the first season, the player is still subject to being returned the following season until he reaches the 90 day requirement.
A's need to draft Dallas Buck
Just so they can have Dallas McPherson, Dallas Braden, Dalla Buck and Travis Buck on the roster.
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
That would obligate them to trade for John Buck
Do you want that? Huh? DO YOU??!?
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
And we can get Joe Buck as our announcer
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
no one wants that.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
and
add Buck Martinez as your co-announcer or Manager and Buck Rodgers as your manager. Use tapes of the national anthem and have Buck Owens singing.
Someone to look at...
Single A – Johermyn Chavez (Tor – OF), 6’3, 180, 20 years old, 21 HR, 89 RBI, .283 avg
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=paN06508&position=OF
Top 10 Pitchers who are Rule 5 eligible
Thanks to those of you who pointed out interesting Rule 5 eligible players on this and other SBN sites. Using a combination of scouting reports and minor league results, I put together descriptions of the ten pitchers whom I believe to be the most interesting candidates available this year (link).
Interesting
I have a list of 10 that will be posted on draysbay on Thursday. Wagner and Wright are the only overlappers.
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You don't like Aneury?
I would like to hear why.
How many pitchers are on your list?
I do like Aneury
The Rays won’t select their own player in the Rule Five though. I was sad to see he topped your list. 10 pitchers. Admittedly, I’m more of a stats guy so minor league scouting is a personal weakness. I tried to find blurbs regarding the pitcher’s stuff. Link and Duff look like guys who may have slipped under my radar though.
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I'll check in for your list in a few days
Do you expect the Rays to drop someone from their 40 man roster prior to December 10 so that they can participate in the draft?
Here is my Rule Five catcher post (Rays other need)
Catching Up on Rule Five Catchers
There’s no indication that they will drop someone, though there are a few people who are certainly expendable
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Stats guy, eh
So I’m guessing Yohan Pino is topping your list… although the Rays already have Andy Sonnanstine, so I’m not sure they need his Latin American doppleganger.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Thanks, larry
I missed Link when I looked at the White Sox roster
Will Inman...
was 18 when he signed 2005. He has another year left before being eligible.
“Players are eligible for selection in the Rule 5 draft who are not on their major league organization’s forty man roster and:
- were signed at age 19 or older and have been in the organization for four years; or
- were signed at age 18 or younger and have been in the organization for five years."
Inman is eligible
It’s not actually “years”. A better way to look at it is players are eligible if they
-were signed at age 19 or older and this is the 4th rule 5 draft since their signing
-were signed at age 18 or younger and this is the 5th rule 5 draft since their signing.
Concur
Inman signed and pitched professionally in 2005. He has 5 seasons of minor league experience and is Rule 5-eligible.
From the Marlins:
I think someone’s going to take a shot on John Raynor. Plus plus speed, can play CF (though the arm’s not ideal), and a good minor league track record before last season, which might have been affected by his broken hand in the 2008 AFL. Seems like an easy guy to hide on a bench, with some upside as well.
Yunior Novoa...
has a heck of an arm. His secondary stuff is good when he’s got his screwed on straight. His makeup and mound presence are honestly rookie ball average, but he has a major league arm and if a Dave Duncan or someone worked with him, he’d be a tremendous lefty out of the pen.
Yankees now have the Nationals' first pick
The Nats will be picking for the Yankees in order to provide the PTBNL in the Brian Bruney trade.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2009/12/no_major_moves_but_still_a_bus.html

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