Community Prospect List - Brewers
by cwhitman412 on Nov 2, 2009 12:36 PM EST
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Sorry for the long wait. School has been a bitch lately, and I'm still trying to catch up. I want to finish up the NL Central however. Brewers time! 130 AB, 50 IP. I guess to be fair I have to include Gamel.
1. Brett Lawrie
3. Caleb Gindl
5. Eric Arnett
Other names, Lucroy, Salome, Schafer, Anundson, Braddock, Gamel, Odorizzi, Rogers, Kentrail Davis, and Wily Peralta. Incredibly underrated system after looking at it more. Lots of great players in it. I could easily reorganize 3 through 15 with almost any of those names. I'm really low on Escobar, as well as Gamel. Gindl is one of my favorite hitters, and the pitching really intrigues me.
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Way so low on Escobar?
He’s one hell of a defensive SS.
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by Kinslerhomer on Nov 2, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I Know
I’m an underrater of defense consistently. I felt this way about Andrus as well last year. The slap hitting shortstop with speed and defense doesn’t get very high on my list.
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by cwhitman412 on Nov 2, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He could be a .300 hitter with 10-15 home run power.
Escobar is great.
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by Frederick0220 on Nov 2, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1. Escobar
2. Lawrie
3. Gamel
5. Salome
5. Lucroy
by jarjets89 on Nov 2, 2009 1:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
top 8
For me, there is a group of 8 that stands out – obviously I might be rating some too high or undervaluing others, but here it is:
1. Escobar: the Andrus comps are totally accurate – if Alcides can duplicate Elvis’ 09 season, he is worthy of the #1 ranking
2. Lawrie: whether it is 2B, LF or RF, the kid is a special talent at the plate, and despite his anonymity, is a Top 40 prospect
3. Gamel: I still believe (maybe I’m naive) – but I think he got jerked around and just needs the chance to play everyday in the bigs
4. Lucroy: defense is improving, offense is stellar. Never anything more than a second-level catcher (after the Top 5) but will still be a good one
5. Braddock: so it looks like his future is in the pen. Ok with that, since he seems to have the bulldog, shutdown mentality. Future closer?
6. Arnett: future #2 – just a solid repertoire with power stuff. Filthy slider.
7. Salome: maybe his future isn’t in Milwaukee, but to me he still has a bright one.
8. Schafer: think he has leapfrogged Cain – to me he seems to have all of the intangibles to be the guy in CF for the next 10 years
by mjwelch11 on Nov 2, 2009 1:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
1. Alcides Escobar
2. Brett Lawrie
3. Cody Scarpetta
4. Matt Gamel
5. Jake Odorizzi
by gogotabata on Nov 2, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd go...
Escobar
Lawrie
Gamel
Odorizzi
Arnett
by joegonzo on Nov 2, 2009 3:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gamel
Escobar
Lawrie
Scarpetta
Odorizzi
HM: Jeremy Jeffress (weed aside, it’s hard to match this kid’s arm), Caleb Gindl (talk about underrated), Zach Braddock (think he’s a future closer)
I don’t see the appeal with Schafer. Good defender, no power though.
by WrenFGun on Nov 2, 2009 4:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
1. Escobar
2. Gamel
3. Lawrie
4. Arnett
5. Odorizzi
by AKinn15 on Nov 2, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jeffrries?
is this guy in anyones top 5?? or is he disallowed?
by matthewmafa on Nov 2, 2009 4:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jeffress
One more dirty piss test and he is banned for life from MLB…before he even gets there. On pure upside, the only player with a comparable ceiling on the team would be Lawrie (and that’s comparing apples to oranges, position player to TINSTAPP).
Honestly, given that he’s pitched so little over the last two years, and even when he was pitching, he wasn’t an absolute stud (outside of last year in A+…before falling on his face at AA). I’m still a huge fan, but he ranks similarly to Mark Rogers-high ceiling but quite the lotto ticket odds on achieving that ceiling.
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by ILuvDaBush on Nov 2, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
the lifetime ban for a third offense is for steroid violations only, not for recreational drugs.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Nov 2, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ive heard differently
ive heard one more violation frlom this guy and hes gone..,
by matthewmafa on Nov 2, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you link to anything that says that?
Nothing personal, but I’d like to see some source information on that before I believe it.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Nov 3, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right-hander Jeremy Jeffress, rated by many as the top pitching prospect in the Brewers’ farm system, has drawn a 100-game suspension for testing positive for a second time for a “substance of abuse.”
The penalty leaves Jeffress, 21, one positive test away from a lifetime ban under the Minor League Drug Treatment and Prevention program.
by Supertramp on Nov 3, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason I linked a message board that posted the article — here is the original article: Link
by Supertramp on Nov 3, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, MiLB has that policy in place,
but not MLB as the above poster mentioned. So if Jeffress fails another test he can’t pitch in the minors any longer, but he could be added to the MLB roster and pitch in the majors. You can download the MLB policy here:
news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/sports/mlbdrugpolicy05.pdf
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Nov 3, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1. Alcides Escobar – Lawrie’s too raw for me to go here when Escobar is a ready shortstop.
2. Brett Lawrie
3. Mat Gamel – Arms have more upside, but he’s closer.
4. Jake Odorizzi – Not sure why, but I prefer Odorizzi to Arnett. No reason.
5. Eric Arnett
hey cwhit, since I’ve wait this long, do me a favor and save the Cubs last will ya? I might be busy the next few days.
by toonsterwu on Nov 2, 2009 5:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes Sir
When do you want me to do it. I’m curious on your input anyways.
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by cwhitman412 on Nov 2, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whenever last is
i mean, i don’t want to hold back the completion of these lists on account of me. but with a few teams to go, i figure that’ll take at least a good week, right, or at least through the weekend.
by toonsterwu on Nov 2, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
after further thought
change 5 to Wily Peralta for me.
by toonsterwu on Nov 3, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Top-7
1. Brett Lawrie. The future face of Team Canada.
2. Alcides Escobar. Has continued to slap singles and steal bases while being a BFF to the pitcher.
3. Mat Gamel. Would have been #1..or 1A at the midpoint of the season. Is definitely prone to the hills and valleys of baseball. But when he’s locked in, he’s Wade Boggs.
4. Cody Scarpetta.
5. Wily Peralta. Scarpetta/Peralta are about as even as even gets. One is more projectable while the other has a better FB at present. Considering they’re both at A-ball, I’ll take the projectable RHP who profiles to zip through the system next year since he’s already on the 40-man.
6. Zach Braddock. The Cinderella Man. He’s a punch-out machine. Had one hiccup last season that ballooned his ERA….to 2.
7. Kentrail Davis. 30/30 ceiling.
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
by ILuvDaBush on Nov 2, 2009 5:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
top 5
Brewers
1. Alcides Escobar
2. Brett Lawrie
3. Cody Scarpetta
4. Evan Anundsen
5. Jacob Odorizzi
H.M. Braddock, Gindl
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Nov 2, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
scratch that one C-Whit
my real one:
1. Lawrie
2. Escobar
3. Scarpetta
4. Lucroy
5. Gindl
H.M. Salome, Odorizzi, Cain, Anundsen
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Nov 3, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Done.
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by cwhitman412 on Nov 3, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mine
1. Brett Lawrie
2. Caleb Gindl
3. Cody Scarpetta
4. Mat Gamel
5. Jake Odorizzi
I think Escobar is the most overrated prospect this side of Maybin.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by WayneCampbell08 on Nov 2, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
THANK YOU.
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by cwhitman412 on Nov 2, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Except Maybin Isn't A Prospect
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by cwhitman412 on Nov 2, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes he may be overrated...
but hes still top 5 in this system…
by matthewmafa on Nov 2, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
He’ll hit for average and steal a ton of bags while playing plus defense at shortstop. He’d be a major league regular even if he doesn’t hit, but as he actually has some skills to contribute on offense, he has the potential to be a well above-average major leaguer.
by mrkupe on Nov 2, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs fan. Maybe he’s traumatized by Escobar’s 4 hit game against them.
by JetSam on Nov 5, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I never even knew that had happened so nice try.
He doesn’t get on base nearly enough to hit at the top of the order and he has zero power so he can’t possibly hit higher than 7th in a best case scenario. A high GB% means it’s doubtful he’ll ever hit for more power too. If he’s hitting eighth, then the pitcher will be bunting him over to second more than he’ll steal it. While he does not strikeout as much as Maybin, he’s not exactly tough to K either.
MrKupe, while that may have been the case 40 years ago, I can’t think of a single team who has a no-hit, slick fielding SS. Maybe Izturis or Everett come close to that old time standard.
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by WayneCampbell08 on Nov 5, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its amazing how much you know
Somehow he turned into a “no-hit” SS with zero power.
by JetSam on Nov 5, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Caleb v. Kentrail
Is Gindl leaps and bounds above Kentrail? I didn’t even put Caleb in my top-7. His ceiling is Matt Stairs or Brian Giles. I’m waiting until he passes the AA test.
Kentrail, on the other hand, is still seen as a CF and profiles to do everything Caleb does, except better.
I guess my question is, why all the Gindl love?
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
by ILuvDaBush on Nov 2, 2009 6:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"His ceiling is Matt Stairs or Brian Giles."
isn’t that good?
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Nov 2, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CEILING
He’s short and while he hit very well in A+, I’ve heard many question whether that power will transfer to AA because of his frame. And Kentrail’s ceiling is Kirby/Andruw. THAT is a ceiling.
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
by ILuvDaBush on Nov 2, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta be specific
If you say Brian Giles, you have to specify which Giles. Brian Giles of 6+ years ago hit 30+ HR and OPS’d over 1000. If you are talking about post 2003 giles of 20-25 HR and relatively modest OPS (~.850) that’s different.
by thudean on Nov 3, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gindl is still young for A+
and was hitting with plenty of power at a very pitcher-friendly park last year. I’m not worried about his power transfering to AA next year.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Nov 3, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha
A ceiling of Brian Giles is an A prospect. Been following baseball long?
by PissedMick on Nov 3, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1.000 OPS
A rose by any other name….still OPS’s 1.000.
As I’ve said, my main apprehension about Gindl is his size relative to his perceived power. If he keeps it up, pepper me some crow.
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
by ILuvDaBush on Nov 4, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would go with
1. Escobar
2. Gamel
3. Lawrie
4. Lucroy
5. Odorizzi
by NoahJ on Nov 2, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
1. Alcides Escobar
2. Brett Lawrie
3. Eric Arnett
4. Cody Scarpetta
5. Jake Ordorizzi
by jar75 on Nov 2, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm weighting mine towards players who are closer to being ready
Escobar
Lucroy
Gamel
Lawrie (probably has the highest upside, but has only spent a couple of weeks above Low A)
Salome
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by KLSnow on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mine
1. Escobar
2. Lawrie
3. Gamel
4. Lucroy
5. Gindl
HM (no order): Salome, Odorizzi, Arnett, Scarpetta, Green
Escobar is very similar to Andrus and I was definitely not one of Andrus’ fans. But you have to see the value of good defense. If Escobar plays plus defense, hits .280 with 30 SB, that’s a really solid player. He’s not going to be a star without power. But he can be a solid above average regular for 10+ years based on his defense and speed alone as long as he continues to make contact.
Gindl is another personal favorite. The reason I like Gindl over Davis (because someone asked) is because Gindl is doing it. They are similar players, but Gindl has now hit at every stop and shown relatively good speed. If Davis hits as well as Gindl did for the past two years, I’ll rank Davis accordingly.
System is interesting in that its “star power” has diminished, but it still has lots of talented guys.
by thudean on Nov 3, 2009 8:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seeing all these lists make me think this is a really underrated system.
Salome, Braddock, Arnett, Davis, LuCroy, Scarpetta, Peralta, Gindl, Schafer, Escobar, Gamel, Jeffress, Odorizzi, Rogers, Escobar, Lawrie and Anundsen are all really interesting, talented prospects.
I’m a Red Sox fan first and foremost but the Brewers have always been my second favorite team.
by WrenFGun on Nov 3, 2009 9:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
upside's there
in the lower levels, but it’s relatively thin at the top, which is why I think some folks are “down” on this system right now, along with the fact that a couple years ago, the system was loaded in comparison to what it has now. The pitching looks really intriguing at the lower levels. Only question is if it develops fast enough.
Things could be drastically different next year if their young arms develop.
by toonsterwu on Nov 3, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Upside
Also something to consider is what effect a full year of health and success could do for Mark Rogers’ prospects at being a prospect, and what a bit of sobriety could do to Jeremy Jeffress’ prospectdom. Between those two arms, there’s enough gold (both monetary and potential) to send this system back to its previous lofty perch in the top 5 of minor league systems.
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
by ILuvDaBush on Nov 3, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brewer top 5 prospects
Escobar – a top 20 guy in all of mlb, his defense alone should be worth anywhere from 2 to 3 wins a year. He will make people realize how average JJ Hardy was as a defender
Gamel – should be a solid bat and moved eventually to RF or 1b. Unfortunately, the Brewers in their limited wisdom may be heading him packing, in leiu of the already peaked Casey McGehee.
Lawrie – bat profiles very well at 2B, may eventually be moved to 3b or RF as well though. Solid bat, good power.
Cody Scarpetta – soft body, pitches backwards, but gets nice results, profiles as a bottom of the rotation type of starter.
Eric Arnett – strong arm, if he avoids injury (heel banger) and can develop a changeup, could be a top of the rotation starter. As of right now, long term track appears headed for late relief/closer role.
by backtocali on Nov 3, 2009 11:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
most fielding metrics have had Hardy as an above average-to-plus defender
He was the 5th best SS from 2006 to 2008 according to Plus/Minus (which is impressive considering he didn’t really play in 2006 and didn’t get to accumulate many “runs” that year), and UZR has had him well above average every year he’s been a full time guy.
Are you basing this off of your own observations, and if so, what specifically don’t you like about his defense?
And are you predicting that Escobar is going to be +20 to +30 in UZR? Since 2006, only Everett (27.6 in 2006) and Vizquel (20.2 in 2007) have reached that level. I know that Escobar’s D is considered elite, but I don’t know if it’s safe to predict that extreme level of defensive value (unless you’re also including the positional adjustment runs in that statement).
by jibs on Nov 3, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hardy
He fields what is hit to him cleanly and has a cannon arm, but his range is downright awful. The reason his UZR and +/- is so good is that he is solid, sure handed and accurate/strong arm. Elite SS’s go out of their zones to make plays. Escobar has amazing range, an even better arm than Hardy. I can think of a handful of NL shortstops that are better defensively that arent “proved” so by a flawed metric. Rollins, Tulowtizki, Reyes, Yunel Escobar, BJ Ryan,
The effect of a full year of Escobar at SS may not show up in WAR or UZR, but the ERA’s of the pitching staff will drop by a 1/3 to half of a run with him patrolling the middle of the infield. Hardy will look pedestrian in comparison.
by backtocali on Nov 3, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BJ Ryan???
The deposed Toronto closer?
As for the Hardy v. Escobar debate, one need look no further than the effect Elvis Andrus had on the Rangers’ staff this year (though you can also give credit to Greg’s brother…the FORMER pitching coach of the Beers),
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by ILuvDaBush on Nov 3, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brendan Ryan
Ive done that twice now….
Yunel vs Alcides Escobar (not in this post) and now the Ryan boys…
So are you agreeing that Escobar will have a huge impact on the Brewer pitching staff or not?
And on the range argument below, a lot of balls that are hit right at Hardy, helping his range, is just that, they are hit right at him (i.e. defensive positioning/coaching is what gave him “good” range) . The guy has cement shoes out there. Big reason that defensive stats are VERY unreliable.
by backtocali on Nov 3, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I see.
You’re trolling. You got me, a little.
by PissedMick on Nov 3, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Trolling
I knew you were when you said Escobar is a top 20 guy.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by WayneCampbell08 on Nov 5, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alcides Escobar was
I believe #16 last year in BA’s top 100 prospects, and might even finish top 10 this year, but definitely top 20.
by backtocali on Nov 9, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Escobar and the MIL staff
I could see Escobar lowering Soup’s ERA a full half run this coming year. As has been stated ad nauseum, Hardy fields like he’s in the deep end of the pool. My biggest hope is that Escobar and Rickie make nice this winter and play some funky music so they can get in synch with their partner’s DP moves.
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
by ILuvDaBush on Nov 4, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But its stated by the same small handful of people
Cement shoes and deep end of the pool are emotional statements. The question is where he is between excellent and very good.
by JetSam on Nov 5, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you think range isn't a big factor in UZR...
then it’s pretty clear you don’t know what you’re talking about.
by PissedMick on Nov 3, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His range is exceptional
When he fields balls in the hole or on the other side of 2nd base, do you think that’s another player?
by JetSam on Nov 5, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1. Escobar
2. Lawrie
3. Gamel
4. Lucroy
5. Scarpetta
H.M.- Salome, Braddock, Odorizzi, Cain, Schafer, Gindl. I’m hesitant to rank Arnett until seeing next year’s results.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Nov 3, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arnett v. Kentrail
As of this moment, who is the better prospect? Kentrail signed too late to pick up the wood, but he’s younger and has more “hype” surrounding him.
Also, why no love for Peralta? To me, he is 1A in terms of the Brewers’ best starting pitching prospects.
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
by ILuvDaBush on Nov 3, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't say whether Davis or Arnett is the better prospect yet...
small/no sample size to work with. Peralta was next on my HM list.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Nov 3, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
4-20
You have to love a heading like that. But it would seem that anyone 4-20 (1-3 would seem to be Lawrie-Escobar-Gamel, and two will graduate) could easily become our number one prospect next year. All have warts to some degree, but even Taylor Green could theoretically become the top prospect (though there would be a few dominoes that would precede that).
Also, is it wrong to still hold out hope that Brent Brewer will figure it out? He COULD still be in college…(cough) Matt LaPorta (cough)…and it’s not as if his tools have dulled. I have NO expectation, simply hope.
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
by ILuvDaBush on Nov 4, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Brent Brewer ship has sailed
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Nov 4, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my list
1. Lawrie- closest thing to an impact prospect the Brewers have
2. Escobar- if he can prove not to be a black hole in the lineup, will more than prove his worth in the field
3. Gamel- always questions about his glove, but his bat is good enough to make the team find a spot
4. Lucroy- OMG PONIES A Catching Prospect!!!
5. Scarpetta- could be Peralta, Odorizzi, Braddock, but I like his name best.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Nov 3, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brewers five
1. Escobar – good bat, eilite glove
2. Gamel – still a plus bat
3. Lawrie – nice bat + athleticism for 2B
4. Lucroy – looks like a solid all around catcher
5. Scarpetta – size, deceptive sinker, plus curve.
by acerimusdux on Nov 4, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My 5
1. Gamel
2. Escobar
3. Lawrie
4. Lucroy
5. Odorizzi
Some good young pitching in Scarpetta, Peralta, and Arnett; interesting bats in Gindl and Cain; and guys like Salome, Green, and Braddock who look like they should carve out some kind of career in the bigs.
RIP Nick Adenhart
by gatling on Nov 5, 2009 6:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
time for the next one?
how about the astros?
by auclairkeithbc on Nov 14, 2009 11:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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