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Still working on the Washington Nationals....preliminary player list and some early grades after the jump.


Star-divide

Michael Burgess    OF           B-
Paul Demny         RHP          C
Ian Desmond        SS           C+
Danny Espinosa     SS
Marco Estrada      RHP
Clint Everts       RHP
Robinson Fabian    RHP  
Marcos Frias       RHP 
Victor Garate      LHP  
Luis Garcia        RHP  
J.R. Higley        OF  
Trevor Holder      RHP
Destin Hood        OF
Juan Jaime         RHP
Hendry Jimenez     2B
Taylor Jordan      RHP
Nathan Karns       RHP
Jeff Kobernus      2B
Pat Lehman         RHP 
Steve Lombardozzi  2B
Chris Marrero      1B
Justin Maxwell     OF
Jack McGeary       LHP
Bradley Meyers     RHP
Tom Milone         LHP
A.J. Morris        RHP
Adrian Nieto       C           C
Derek Norris       C           B+
Eury Perez         OF          C+
J.P. Ramirez       OF
Danny Rosenbaum    LHP
Atahualpa Severino LHP         C
Josh Smoker        LHP         C
Drew Storen        RHP         B+
Stephen Strasburg  RHP         A
Aaron Thompson     LHP         C+
Greg Veloz         2B          C
Dean Weaver        RHP         C
Josh Wilkie        RHP         C

Let me know if you think i'm missing anyone. I will try to have the complete list and rankings up Thursday.

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Everts

Supposedly, he’s now a minor league free agent: http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=6994

Like the Storen grade, but C+ seems low for Desmond.

by rdf8585 on Nov 18, 2009 1:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Desmond

Agreed on the C+ being low. He was always a tools guy who finally got healthy and put together a truly impressive year at three levels (including MLB). I don’t think he’s going to post an .850 OPS in the bigs next season, but I wouldn’t be completely shocked if he did. That’s got to merit at least a B-.

by seabass on Nov 18, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

I don’t think anything really changed for Desmond this year except his babip went through the roof. He’s always been a guy who K’s around 20% of the time and hits .240-.260 … all of a sudden I’m supposed to believe he’s K’s around 20% of the time and hits .300+? No dice. I think he’ll be a decent enough major leaguer, but nothing really valuable as he doesn’t do anything especially well or horribly poorly … uninspiring BB rate, mediocre/bad contact, limited power … he’s just blah across the board. I think C+ is perfectly fine for him.

by jayjay on Nov 18, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you also have to have pretty serious concerns as to whether he can play SS at the major league level. He can look frankly amateurish out there at times (and too many times at that), and seems to have real problems with focus.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Nov 18, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

desmond

I have been going back and forth between B- and C+ for him.

by John Sickels on Nov 18, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if he hamate bone fix has hepled him with he's hitting.

From what I understand of the Ryan Zimmerman’s hamate bone repair he had felt that years before he had it repaired. It would be interesting to know how long this was effecting his swing or actually the ball contact impact. From what I’ve read doesn’t this condition cause a funny bone effect when balls make contact. Oh well, I’m probably just a overly hopeful fan. Thx for your comments John.

by Berndaddy on Nov 18, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Burgess still impresses me

I still really like Burgess despite his 2009 performance, would rate him a solid B but that’s just nit picking.

by 2883 on Nov 18, 2009 1:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Espinosa is a B/B+ prospect for me....

One of the most complete SS prospects in the game.

by soccerman0 on Nov 18, 2009 2:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

He's the SS of the future for the Nats and...

… Desmond is the 2nd baseman of the future is he can continue to hit. With Nijer in center that’s pretty solid up the middle.

by Berndaddy on Nov 18, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

impressed?

so he moves up a level and struggles incredibly yet we should overlook that. i’m no scout but the dude is unbelievably overweight, and he hit .235 last year to go with 135 strikeouts. what about that is impressive? at this point, with his weight, he won’t even make it to the big leagues, let alone start.

by psugator on Nov 18, 2009 7:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Brad Peacock maybe?

It’s probably not a travesty if he doesn’t make the book, but I see some positives there.

by aCone419 on Nov 18, 2009 7:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Brandon King

 over Robinson Fabian or especially Greg Veloz (the epitome of “you can’t steal 1st”).

by VladiHondo on Nov 18, 2009 8:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agree

I’d prefer to see Brandon King over some of the older bullpen guys

by NFA Brian on Nov 18, 2009 8:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

King

I think I can fit him in. Long way away though.

by John Sickels on Nov 18, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Evan Bronson

is he an Alaniz type, great in low levels that has trouble at AA?

You gotta like his numbers in the NYPL – 0.55 ERA, 49 IP, 28 H, 0 HR, 3 BB, 38 K’s.

by VladiHondo on Nov 18, 2009 8:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

bronson

interesting late-round sleeper but might be too far away. At this point I’d rather go with Estrada, who, while not a great prospect, could conceivably contribute in 2010.

by John Sickels on Nov 18, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Other potential considerations

The two HS bats drafted higher in 2009 (Roberto Perez and Michael Taylor).

Peacock (as previously mentioned)

and the other guy that intrigues me is Clayton Dill

by NFA Brian on Nov 18, 2009 8:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Brian when is your list coming. I loved yours from two years ago.

The break down was a piece of art. If BA / John Sickels / BP give us sketches of the Nats farm system you give us the fully CG Pixsar version. Please keep it up.

by Berndaddy on Nov 18, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

John please don't forget Mandel.

He’s had a good 2009 ,as well as, the work he’s done at the AFL.

by Berndaddy on Nov 18, 2009 10:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mandel

Not enamoured of his low strikeout rate. But I’ll consider it.

by John Sickels on Nov 18, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

didn’t the Giants win the poll?

did I miss something?

Fairley odd parent to Wendell
converting tools into skills since 2008...

by WTF on Nov 18, 2009 10:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

got it.

poll was Pads/Giants.

all clear now.

by WTF on Nov 18, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

changes

Cut Rosenbaum and Fabian in favor of Bronson and Peacock.

by John Sickels on Nov 18, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

John

Should we Nats fans be happy with the front office team that Rizzo and Kasten are putting together? Does this boad well for the Nats future? ( Bowden being gone is have the battle, eh)

by Berndaddy on Nov 18, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

JZ

real tough break with Zimmermann

by soxkid on Nov 18, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It seems all the hires are "old school"

though Rizzo has said how a player projects has to measured at some point against how he performs. Do you think the Nats have swung all the back to older scouts who value projectability and physical tools rather than results and thinking plate command is a tool?

I was hoping for a healthy mix of old school and moneyballers, but I just don’t see it so far.

Plus, John, what’s your take on the Davey Johnson hire?

by VladiHondo on Nov 19, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

strasburg straight A

good call john

glad all the “he’s never thrown a professional pitch” rabble didn’t sway you from the obvious talent he has

by PHGold09 on Nov 18, 2009 4:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

+2

Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Nov 18, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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