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Arizona Fall League Q/A Thread

Arizona Fall League

I have returned from the Arizona Fall League and the First Pitch Arizona Conference. As usual, I had a great time, learned a lot I didn't know, and even got to meet a few Minor League Ball readers.

Star-divide

I drove 2,962 miles round trip, and I'm rather tired, though not as tired as Jeri, who was on child care duty non-stop for a week while I was gone. I owe her a week's worth of sleeping-in time, which around here means sleeping until 8 am, given the propensity of the youngest child to wake up about 5. Nevertheless, I'm back in the saddle, and will resume work on the 2010 Baseball Prospect Book this afternoon.

I will write up a report for Rotowire about the Arizona Fall League next week, which will incorporate data from the trip. But here are some bullet points about players of interest.

**I didn't get to see Stephen Strasburg. He was supposed to pitch in the Arizona Fall League All Star Game, but was scratched due to a stiff neck. I did talk with people who had seen him pitch, and they were universally full of praise for him. His fastball legitimately hits 100 MPH, his breaking ball is described as a "wipeout pitch," and scouts love his mound presence. His command needs some tweaking, but most observers felt this was just a matter of needing to shake rust off after the summer layoff. Some believe he could make the major league rotation in spring training, while others believe he could use half a season of minor league baseball just to get used to the pro game. Everyone thinks he'll be an excellent major league pitcher, provided he stays healthy. Right now I'm leaning towards a pure Grade A rating for the 2010 book, but I'll decide that for sure in the coming days.

**On the negative side, Royals prospect Mike Moustakas doesn't look like the same player I saw in the Midwest League last year. His lower half is thicker, as if the size proportion  between his hips and his shoulders has been altered in a negative way. He's slower and less mobile in general compared to last year. He still has a solid-looking swing, but his plate discipline is weak and problems with lefties are evident. I had given him a Grade B+ a couple of weeks ago, but am strongly reconsidering that now and could lower it down to B or maybe even B-.. He's still very young, but I'm worried about him.

**Phillies outfield prospect Domonic Brown has a superb set of tools and tremendous athleticism. Scouts are quibbling about a loopy, longish swing, but people who saw him earlier this year suspect he's just tired right now and his swing is wilting as a result. The tools are certainly outstanding and I was very taken with his projectability.

**Ask questions in this thread and I'll answer them.

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did you see jordan danks?

what were your impressions?

prior to his oblique injury he tore up AA in the summer. not so afterwards

do you think it was more the oblique or a AA flameout?

thanks john

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by The Wizard on Nov 11, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

danks

I liked his athleticism a lot….fast, looks wiry strong. His swing looked slow and long in the two games I saw him play, and he was having trouble with pitches inside, which may have been an issue in Double-A. Scouts were mixed about him, some like him a lot, others think he’ll continue to struggle against better pitching.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What did you think of Brandon Snyder?

How is his defense looking?

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by wickedwitch on Nov 11, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

snyder

Didn’t get a great read on his defense. With the bat, he hammered stuff on the outer half of the plate, hitting it strongly to the opposite field, but he had more difficulty with stuff inside. Scouts seem rather skeptical about his ability to hit enough to be a regular 1B.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Might as well get the Ranger's questions out of the way

What where your takes on Scheppers and Gutierrez?

Like or dislike Scheppers mechanics

Did you get to see Mitch Moreland? Is he now a legit prospect or still a fringe guy?

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Nov 11, 2009 3:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

scheppers

Scheppers looked awesome. I don’t see any huge mechanical issues, and his stuff is first class, but given the shoulder trouble it might be best to use him in relief at first. Gutierrez didn’t have Schepper’s stuff, but he still showed a good arm. HIs main problem is off-field issues.

Didn’t get to see Moreland, but people who did were pretty impressed with him. I saw him a couple of years ago and thought he had an underrated bat at the time.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tanner Scheppers

Do you think he could be a solid contributor in a major league pen in 2010?

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 11, 2009 6:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Andy Oliver

His fastball looked impressive during the rising stars game, but, as expected, his offspeed stuff needs work. Do you think he can make it as a starter, or will his lack of secondary stuff relegate him to the bullpen?

by jar75 on Nov 11, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

oliver

Well he showed pretty good secondary stuff during his sophomore year. It went backwards on him as a junior, but I’d use him as a starter for awhile to see if it can come back.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Javy Guerra and Mark Rogers

How’d they look? Could we see them in the Majors anytime soon?

Touch em all Joe...

by FisherCat on Nov 11, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

pitchers

I didn’t get to see Rogers and didn’t hear anything particular about him.

I did see Guerra. He was throwing 92-95 MPH but had no idea where it was going. HIs breaking ball had movement but again, he couldn’t control it.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you get a chance to see Mike Minor

In the Rising stars game he was sitting 91-93 with his fastball. If he is consistently at that velocity, do you think you’ll still have him at B- for the book?

by aCone419 on Nov 11, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

minor

saw him in the Rising Stars game, so I saw what you saw. The general consensus among people who saw him in other games was that his fastball is more effective when he throws it at 88-90. He can bump it up to 91-93 but when he does that he loves movement and location and overthrows. I might move him to B.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Even after the Rising Stars game

You’d consider moving his grade up?

by Jay212033 on Nov 12, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

alonso

Very quick bat, strong command of the strike zone. I think he’ll be an excellent hitter. With the glove….I dunno, some people were actually saying he has enough mobility and arm strength to move to third base, but I dont’ buy that. He lacks speed and won’t play outfield.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What do you believe is danny guitterez's (sp) ceiling?

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by Michael Cave on Nov 11, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

man, did that guy look good at Rising Stars.

A guy who can throw a curve like that in Arizona is quite the find.

by mrkupe on Nov 12, 2009 3:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

gut

He’s got a very good arm no question. Main concerns are history of injury, and serious off-field issues, which is why the Royals traded him.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What exactly are the so

" serious off-field issues" ???

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by Kinslerhomer on Nov 12, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He has had three brushes with the law in the last year and a half, according to the official Arizona Judicial Branch Website. In March 2008, police charged him with speeding and driving with no valid license; he pleaded guilty and paid a fine in June. In May 2008, police charged him with disorderly conduct/fighting; he was found guilty and paid a fine in December. And in June, police charged him with assault; he has pleaded not guilty and the case has not been resolved.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/trade-central/2009/268826.html

by larry on Nov 12, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

also, i recall reading that he had differences with the medical staff regarding his injury.

not sure if that’s accurate but i think i’d let that one go considering KC’s history with injuries.

by larry on Nov 12, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He did

but I also agree with him on that.

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by Kinslerhomer on Nov 12, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Rangers just have to keep him long enough to trade him for more than what they gave up to get him.

I’m not all that worried about his past off-field troubles. Some of his early comments from interviews by Jason Cole with Danny Clark suggest to me that he isn’t exactly an ambitious kid — he has to be pressured to do new things to improve his game.

So, I’m not sure he has as much of a chance to pan out as his talent might suggest, given his decision-making thus far in life. But, again, if he shows something at AA and the Rangers can flip him at the ASB for a needed piece, then I’ll be happy with that given what the Rangers gave up to obtain Gutierrez.

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by rooster on Nov 12, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I realize this question was directed at John, but since it is a response I’ll chime in with my two cents.

There may be some doubts about Desme’s bat speed, and his overall straightaway pull power to left. In the Cali League this year he was content with driving fastballs to center and right-center, which helped his homerun numbers. There is surely some doubt as to whether his non-pull power will hold up at higher levels. Of course, I’m just elaborating on what the perception may be. Personally, I think his bat speed is legit.

by StickRat on Nov 12, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Grant Desme

Where do you see his potential? Does he have a ceiling around Mark Reynolds or is he more closer to someone like Hunter Pence?

by Archie A on Nov 11, 2009 11:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

desme

He’s got a huge amount of power in his bat. Running speed is just average despite all the steals. He kills fastballs but looks like he’s got vulnerability to breaking stuff that could be exposed at higher levels.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I find your comment on fastballs interesting

You said that Desme kills fastballs, but the analysts at ESPN continue to crow that Desme “struggles with average fastballs.” Considering his stats in 2009 and now in the AFL, I seriously had to question the accuracy of these reports.

Are you saying these ESPN analysts are full of crap when it comes to Desme?

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by nobodyinparticular on Nov 12, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

desme

I dunno. I saw him in 2 games and that’s what I saw. It depends on the ESPN analysts, lol, and if they saw him more than I did.

I generally tend to be suspcisious of small sample size scouting. In regards to Desme, I was paying more attention to his size, strength, running speed, and general demeanor, than the pitch-by-pitch, since those things don’t change as much. I know that AFL scouts who saw him a lot were very impressed by him, but stattistically his very high strikeout rate is an issue that may hurt him in Double-A.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you can name them...

It’s Keith Law, also known as the high priest of small-sample-size scouting…

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by PaulThomas on Nov 12, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He was one...

Jason Grey was the other. When I saw Jason Grey post the same thing, it just smacked of parroting Keith Law’s analysis.

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by nobodyinparticular on Nov 12, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

jason

Jason has seen a lot of Desme in Arizona, certainly fair more than I have. If Jason said it I would give it credence.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What do you think of...

Jason Grey also wrote an article titled “Desme Struggling at AFL” on Oct 20 after he had hit 3 HRs with a BA of .500 (OBP .560).

I understand my innate bias as an A’s fan, but a person who writes that article under those circumstances makes me wonder if the source is truly credible—at least when it comes to the topic of Desme.

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by nobodyinparticular on Nov 12, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"I understand my innate bias as an A’s fan"

would also make someone wonder if the critique of said article is truly credible..

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by Kenan and Kel on Nov 12, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really???

’Cause I thought I added that point in there just for kicks and giggles. Of course I realize my bias would taint my critique of the article. Why else would I say that?

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by nobodyinparticular on Nov 12, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Timing

Chances are Jason filed before that game, but it didn’t immediately post. If I recall correctly, Desme struck out a few times in his first games in AZ and then caught fire.

by RotoJeff on Nov 12, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

I think the article was posted the morning that he hit the first of his 10 HRs in 12 games. At that point he had like 6 K’s in 3 games and was hitting like .100

by Archie A on Nov 12, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So then it's fair to criticize a guy for writing that a guy is "struggling" in an entire LEAGUE

when he’s had 3 bad games. I bet Grey also thinks ARod isn’t clutch in the playoffs.

by thejd44 on Nov 15, 2009 5:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

I assure you, he’s emphatically not that type of writer. I’m biased in Jason’s favor because I know him pretty well, but suffice to say he’s pretty sabermetric-friendly.

by RotoJeff on Nov 17, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Some Clarification....

Enjoyed seeing John as always, and he made a good case for why I may be wrong on Casper Wells. I’m at two games a day for the duration of the AFL, and here is what’s gone on with Desme, who I wrote about mutliple times in my blog, with follow-ups to the initial entry:

He did indeed have problems the first week; and I wrote about it because I thought it interesting that a player with a reputation for killing fastballs swung though so many the first few days that it quickly became a running joke among scouts. (Keith Law and I saw a lot of the same games this first week, so we saw the same thing and mentioned it, and other scouts saw it as well. Over the course of three games, I saw him swing through no fewer than 10 fastballs.) Bad timing, as my piece was written and posted just before the homer barrage (BTW, I don’t write my headlines, so “struggling” was not my word, and if you read the piece, I wrote I wasn’t too worried about it because it was early, and comparing it to the bad start Gordon Beckham had last year at the AFL before he caught fire; just thought his early problems were interesting to mention for the reason I just described.)

Desme is indeed a good fastball hitter that had problems the first week. I also wonder if that helped him in a way, because he looked so bad on them early he saw a ton of them after that which he hammered, until pitchers stopped throwing him so many. The issue with him (and why scouts are anywhere from a 45 to a 60 on him) will be handling quality breaking stuff as he moves up the ladder. John’s point about killing fastballs is indeed correct, as was my assertion that he absolutely did not do that the first week. But it was early (as I pointed out in that blog post if you get past the headline), and he started catching up to them in a big way. Hope that clarifies.

by Jason Grey on Nov 17, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hi Jason

Hi Jason. Thanks for chiming in here.

by John Sickels on Nov 17, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Starlin Castro

Is the hype merited, or have people gotten out of control with it?

by Outshined_One on Nov 11, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was going to ask this as well.

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by vtcub on Nov 12, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

castro

I like him a lot. Very athletic, but with more polish than most players his age. He has a lot of physical projectabilty remaining….he could turn into an Alex Gonzalez (either one) type shortstop if the strike zone gives him trouble, but he could become a lot better than that.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Josh Vitters

He didn’t display much power in the FSL and hasn’t put up much in the way of extra base hits in the AFL. Did you get any looks at him? Any interesting observations?

by legger06 on Nov 11, 2009 11:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Vitters

He makes contact but his swing is level and I’m not sure how many homers he’s going to hit. He really needs to do a better job with the strike zone, too. Some scouts are skeptical.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jon Gaston

He seems to have a mix of Power and Speed…I just wondered if you’ve seen him and his approach, along with any thoughts.

by BobbyS on Nov 11, 2009 11:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was also wondering about his strikeout rate. Is there a specific pitch he just can’t hit or is he just being overly aggresive. The power is there for him but his plate discipline is horrible it seems like…your take?

by Subber10 on Nov 11, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He also walks a great deal…so yeah, his discipline and recognition was one of the main parts of his approach I wondered about.

by BobbyS on Nov 12, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

gaston

I saw him and I don’t thiink his numbers were all California League illusion. We’ll see what happens in Double-A, though. Thinking a .280-15 homer type bat may be the outcome.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Give us a sleeper prospect, John.

Someone that you saw and liked who came into the AFL with lesser prospect hype than most.

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by jesse.burkhart on Nov 11, 2009 11:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

heisey

He’s not really a “sleeper” in that sense, but Chris Heisey has convinced most scouts that he’s for real.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Trayvon Robinson..

Cal League breakout legit or once he gets out of the Cal league he will go back to his normal self?

by matthewmafa on Nov 12, 2009 12:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

robinson

I didn’t get a good look at him. Not much buzz around him other than that he’s a good athlete.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

2 guys

Did you see either Donald Veal or Drew Storen? If so, what did you think? Thanks for any insights.

by rdf8585 on Nov 12, 2009 12:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Yeah, saw both of them. Storen very impressive, very polished, above average stuff across the board.

Veal looked terrific. His mechnics have been COMPLETELY rebuilt, much smoother, much better command, throwing FB in the low 90s with better breaking stuff than he’s shown in years.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Veal in SP vs. Veal in AFL

He was pitching soooo slowly in spring training this year. As a Pirate fan, I have enough reason to consider suicide, but watching Veal pitch was on a whole nother level.

But in AFL, he was pitching much more quickly, except when men on base – he was slowing down and looked to lose location because of it.

But I’ll definitely take v2.0.

by slacker george on Nov 15, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts on Jose Tabata and Chase D’Arnaud? Does the former show any signs of developing power? Does the latter show any tool that stands out to you?

Is Donnie Veal for real?

by thegreatchris on Nov 12, 2009 1:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

tabata

Tabata is another guy with a level swing but good command of the plate and a solid approach. At this point I’m not too optimistic about tons of home run power, but he’s still yuoung. I saw D’arnaud and he didn’t look like much to me, but scouts seem to really like him.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jemille Weeks?

How has he progressed since the last time you have seen him? Has his injuries held his progression far behind or is he going to be on pace to enter the MLB in a year?

by Zabat on Nov 12, 2009 1:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

weeks

I thought he looked rather tired and his bat slower than when I saw him in August.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Braves Prospects

Were you able to see Craig Kimbrel, Lee Hyde and Freddie Freeman? If so can you give a short report on each guy please?

by Jay212033 on Nov 12, 2009 2:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

kimbrel

Saw Kimbrel. He was another guy throwing 90-93 MPH.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

a "best Tools, best pitch, etc" type-thing would be cool John

just guys that you saw.

best athlete
best defensive middle infielder
best power hitter
best slider you saw

etc
etc

by daveh33 on Nov 12, 2009 3:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

naw

I saw 4 games, not nearly enough to come up with a list like that.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe it could be smaller scale?

just a quick observational

“best breaking pitch i saw,
guy who hit the ball the hardest”

etc

by daveh33 on Nov 12, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Giants prospects

How do Brandon Crawford, Thomas Neal, and Buster Posey look? Any word on Steve Edlefsen?

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Nov 12, 2009 3:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

neal

Neal’s bat looks excellent to me. Some problems with breaking stuff but he works at it, lots of raw power and bat speed. Didn’t see Crawford. Posey looks very tired.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

Sounds like the Giants should have just shut Posey down then.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Nov 15, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Waring

Can he hang at third?

by StickRat on Nov 12, 2009 3:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Waring

Don’t know. Didn’t see enough of him to get a read.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts on Mariner relievers?

How do they compare to Storen

by Paul5418 on Nov 12, 2009 3:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Josh Bell

How was his defense?

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by ravensfan3 on Nov 12, 2009 6:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

bell

Don’t know. Only saw him play defense in one game. Everyone seems to like his bat though.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ike Davis

What’s your opinion on him?

by swilliam on Nov 12, 2009 8:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

davis

His swing was longer than I’d been led to believe. Not all scouts like him, some think he has severe problems with breaking stuff.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's funny

because i kept hearing about a long swing. I think he was being called Captain Long Swing over at amazinavenue. That may have just been Sam Page. :)

by wobatus on Nov 12, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been harping that all year when I saw him, I said the next Mike Jacobs

looked like he was trying to bail water out of a boat when he saw a breaking pitch and I saw him 3 times.

by Bravesin07 on Nov 12, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Andrew Lambo

Curious about your take on Lambo who was an early riser with a hot April and then struggled most of the rest of the year.

by philly on Nov 12, 2009 9:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

lambo

Frankly he looked like “just a guy” to me…slower and not as athletic as I’d been led to expect, not a great swing.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Twins prospects

I’d like to know who you saw and what you thought of them.

by diehardtwinsfan on Nov 12, 2009 10:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

twins

I didn’t get to see many twins prospects, just Rene Tosoni who looked like a 4th outfielder to me.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jose Iglesias

I’ve heard all about the glove and the less than stellar bat from other sources, but what’s your take on him? Is his defense really MLB caliber already? Thanks.

by seabass on Nov 12, 2009 10:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

would love to hear the answer to this

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by JDSussman on Nov 12, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

iglesias

He’s very athletic, very quick, excellent arm, tons of range, VERY smooth. I really like the glove. His bat….well, he has a compact swing but there’s no strength behind it. Don’t think he’ll hit much but if the reported birthday is correct maybe that will change.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Zach Putnam

You get a chance to see him? When can we look forward to seeing him in the Indian’s pen? And is he more of a 6th-7th inning guy or an 8th-9th inning guy?

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by mckeeno on Nov 12, 2009 11:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

putnam

Yeah, I got to see him. 88-92, decent breaking ball and changeup, command was so-so. Could be a 7th inning guy.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Danny Espinosa

Hi John where you able to see Danny play SS? What do you think the Nats have in him?

by Berndaddy on Nov 12, 2009 12:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

espinosa

Well the scouts all seem to love him. Looked very good defensively. I thought his bat was just okay but scouts who have seen him all through the fall league are more impressed.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jonathan Lucroy

So Doug Melvin thinks he can make the jump from AA to the Majors next season, and split time with either Rivera or an unnamed catcher. Thoughts on that and thoughts on Lucroy from what you saw?

by mjwelch11 on Nov 12, 2009 12:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lucroy

Like the bat. Mobility not bad, has arm strength. I think jumping directly to the majors may be a bit much.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OT Sleeping Through The Night

Our 8 month-old had recently been able to achieve this, but last few nights have been rough. Last night she was waking up every half hour or so. I am in the same boat. I have been up since 4 A.M. By that time I couldn’t get back to sleep after each siren call from the baby.

Anyway, kudos to Jeri for being able to handle the solo parent routine for a week, especially with more than 1 kid.

by wobatus on Nov 12, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Things that make you go ummm!

What’s funny to me about this subject is the fact that my “baby” is 17 and I have a hard time waking him up. Yea, I get sleep at night but I’m losing my voice by 9am… Oh how the circle goes round…

by Berndaddy on Nov 12, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Any thoughts on Gamboa and Perrault?

The two Orioles relievers with Phoenix? I don’t think Erbe pitched while you were there, unfortunately, but I’m curious as to whether either of those guys has a shot at a major league bullpen job.

by James F on Nov 12, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

jansen

Dodgers guy, and an interesting one….I did see him pitch in one game, but I was unable to pay a lot of attention due to being distracted by a conference attendee asking me questions. I did see some fastballs that had to be faster than 90 but I wasn’t sitting where I could see a gun at that point. He is a guy I need to research.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Grant Desme comp

One of the A’s beatwriters has said the best comparison she can come up with for Grant Desme is Jayson Werth. Would you say this is accurate? Who would you compare him to (especially considering his average footspeed)?

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by nobodyinparticular on Nov 12, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

desme

I can see a Werth comp, yeah.

I really want to see what Desme can do in Double-A.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Desme

What do you think he’ll do in Double-A? I think he’ll do really well. I think people pay to much attention to his age and strikeouts. Remember this was his first year after being injured for the first two.

by JoeyO on Nov 13, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That might not be as favorable as it seems at first glance

It took Werth a long time to get from a liability to an asset against right-handed pitching.

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by PaulThomas on Nov 12, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Zach Cozart, Daryl Jones

Cozart improved his plate discipline moving to AA last season; does it look like his bat could be better than expected and make him an MLB regular?

And, does Daryl Jones look like he’ll be able to recover some of his stock after his injury-plagued season?

by oplaid on Nov 12, 2009 1:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

cozart

Didn’t see Cozart.

I used to think that Jones could develop some power but I’m starting to doubt that now.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ackley and Triunfel

How did Ackley look in the outfield? Any concerns about his lack of power so far, or is he just focusing on making contact and getting used to wood bats?

Triunfel is supposed to have dropped serious weight and adopted a whole new approach to training. If you got a look at him, did he still look thick and immobile, or has he improved his lateral range a bit?

by slamcactus on Nov 12, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ackley

I liked Ackley’s bat a lot….everything he hit was hit very hard, even foul balls were hard. I think he’ll be a strong batting average/high OBP hitter, but perhaps with just 15 homer power.

Triunfel….he looks more like he’s 25 than 19. I don’t see him as a shortstop, not enough range. Strong arm though.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not this shit again.
Triunfel….he looks more like he’s 25 than 19

It’s just going to continue.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 14, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he was implying his age was falsified

I think – and I may be wrong here and don’t mean to put words in anyone’s mouth – that he meant in the way he moves in the field and runs.

by alskor on Nov 14, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I do, too.

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by Frederick0220 on Nov 14, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If that is the case.

I apologize to John for misunderstanding.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 15, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

age

I wasn’t saying that I think his age is falsified.

I said he doesn’t look 19. He looks 25. It’s an observation, not an accusation.

by John Sickels on Nov 15, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Triunfel

Looked really think in the lower half at the Rising Stars game. Agreed that if this is the case at 19 that he’s highly unlikely to stick at SS. Nice cut on his homer in that game though.

by blackoutyears on Nov 19, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If healthy

Is Verlander a good comp for Scheppers?

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by Kinslerhomer on Nov 12, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

verlander

I woudl not have thought of that one.

Scheppers is listed at 6-4, 200…..Verlander 6-5, 200. However, Scheppers looks more like he’s 6-2, 180 or something to me. . .very low body fat, wiry athlete type, while Verlander always struck me as a bit more solidly built. I’ll need to compare some photos or something and get back to you on that one.

Stuff wise they are kinda similar.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lance Zawadski

What, if any, reads did you get on the Padres SS? Thanks John

by thomasps3 on Nov 12, 2009 2:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

zawadski

Good approach, controls the zone, not a huge amount of power I thought despite 15 homers this year, good athlete. I like him.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Allen, Ryan Kalish?

Either ready to contribute in the bigs this year?

by rogero on Nov 12, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

allen

Allen looks great….outstanding bat speed and power. I didn’t get to see Kalish.

Allen could contribute in 2010, yes.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you get to see Shawn O'Malley at all?

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by Imperialism32 on Nov 12, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

saw him

I saw a game he was in, but I honestly didn’t focus on him.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Marrero

Any signs of improving skills, or was he just a guy on a hot streak?

by red257 on Nov 12, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

marrero

Draws mixed opinions…a lot of people like his power, but he’s limited defensively and may just end up being an average hitter at 1B.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Drew Storen

What did you think about him, John?

by Berndaddy on Nov 12, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

storen

I liked him a lot. I think he can help in 2010….though he’s got to be past 90 innings of work for 2010 and might be/should be getting tired by now.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thx John, he seems like a go getting..

… it doesn’t surprise me that he’s pitched to his limit. I hope they let him rest. The Nats will need him to be 100% next year.

by Berndaddy on Nov 12, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ian Kennedy - mediocre AFL stats; how's he pitching?

Also, if you have the time, any comments on Hank Conger or Philippe Aumont?

by Rotofan on Nov 12, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

kennedy

Didn’t get a look at Kennedy.

Saw some nice video and heard positive scouting comments about Conger. I think he’s underrated.

Aumont….I don’t like his stiff arm action and I think he’s going to get hurt.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

mediocre stats?

23 Ks, 5 BB in 24.2 IP for Kennedy. Seems fine to me.

by jibs on Nov 12, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well above mediocre,

and I still wouldn’t be surprised if he surfaces as a legit #3 guy.

His stuff was nowhere close to as bad as everyone made it out to be.

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by Frederick0220 on Nov 12, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It would surprise me

He’s just not that good. His stuff wasnt that bad, no – but he still has no out pitch and his control was never half as good as people were making it out to be. He’s still a guy with middling stuff and good (not great) control. He’s a total back end guy IMO. He probably belongs in a bullpen on a half good team.

by alskor on Nov 12, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

13 ER in 24.2 IP -- I guess if you ignore earned runs, he was fine

Of course if you ignore Ks and BBs he was terrible.

I just thought it was best to ignore neither and call it mediocre.

Look, it’s a small sample size, and personally, I’m intrigued with the guy since I think there’s a tendency to underestimate prospects who failed or were hurt their first time in the Bigs, and Kennedy was both.

But I also know he faces stiff competition to get a rotation spot next year, especially of the Yankees bring in John Lackey. I was hoping Kennedy would put up good numbers across the board. He didn’t. I’m still pulling for him.

by Rotofan on Nov 12, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OK

The correct move is to weight both of them… as in, give 95% of the weight to Ks and BBs and 5% of the weight to ERs.

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by PaulThomas on Nov 13, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey so...

…one more part to this story. He has more hits than innings.

by alskor on Nov 13, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does anybody look at H/IP and consider it that meaningful?

I personally look at K/9 and ignore hits altogether. Why let 24 innings (or even 200) of such volatile data influence your opinion of a pitcher?

by PissedMick on Nov 13, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I do

It’s not (like most stastistics) all that useful in small doses, but it is a very important indicator for minor league pitchers.

http://www.baseball-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=2124

Group A, despite striking out hitters and giving up homers at a lower rate and, hence, allowing balls to be put into play at a higher rate, shows a notably lower hits-per-nine. […] Relying on the comfortable duo of strikeout-to-walk ratio and strikeout rate isn’t adequate analysis. It’s not so much that outstanding DIPS-inspired ratios are meaningless. Certainly not. Rather, it’s that, as the cumulatives above show, high-strikeout pitchers with exceptional command are rare beasts. And a pitcher need not be in their ranks to become successful—or even outstanding—at the highest level.

by aCone419 on Nov 14, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course

in 24 innings all of the stats should be taken with a grain of salt, including K per 9 or K rate.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 15, 2009 6:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

....

Read the very first line I wrote.

by aCone419 on Nov 15, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ERA?

Kennedy’s FIP is negative in Arizona (although I realize his xFIP is probably higher since he has given up only one HR in an insane offensive environment). But for the stats I’d prefer to look at, I think he is putting up “good numbers across the board”.

by jibs on Nov 13, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you don’t add in the league adjustment of +3.2, anyone with a FIP of under 3.2 would have a negative FIP.

by speckops on Nov 13, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But that is part of the FIP equation.

It is like saying Babe Ruth had a career OPS+ of 2, if you just take the “*100” out of the equation.

by aCone419 on Nov 13, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I messed it up

I was in a hurry and multiplied instead of added, and I’ve seen negative FIPs before in small sample sizes and just assumed it must have been right. His FIP is still right at around 3, which is good (but again, probably useless in this sample size — which begs the question of why I even took umbrage with the original statement in the first place).

by jibs on Nov 13, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It is theoretically possible to have a negative FIP

This isn’t the case here, but just for your personal edification, think about a situation where a pitcher pitches a single inning and strikes out the side without giving up any hits of homers. His FIP would be -2.80. To get a negative FIP, you’d have to strike out 14.4 or more batters per 9 IP, and not walk anybody or give up any homers. Obviously, that’s exceeding unlikely outside of little league or with more than a tiny sample size, but it is possible.

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by OldProspects on Nov 14, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Josh Bell

Do you think he will stay at third? Will he stay a switch hitter?

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bell

yeah, why not? There has been some talk about him dropping switch hitting but I haven’t heard anything other than vague rumors.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How about Andrew Cashner?

any impressions, especially as to whether he might stick as a starter down the line?

by PrincetonCubs on Nov 12, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

cashner

Very nice fastball and breaking ball combination, lots of movement, doesn’t have a changeup. I think he’s better-suited to relief in the long run but understand the desire to let him start until he fails.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

mejia

Didn’t get to see him. Some concern among those who have about how his stuff will play against the most advanced hitters….fastball may be too straight. He’s very young though.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

fastball may be too straight?

never heard a single thing corroborating that opinion, ever. every single report, every one, said his fastball moved like a mother. including ben badler at the game today. he gets a ton of grounders and gives up no homeruns, which usually is what happens when your pitch is straight… wait…

by firejerrymanuel on Nov 12, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ben Badler had this today via tweet:

Watching #Mets RHP Jenrry Mejia pitch, I’m more impressed by the outstanding life on his fastball than the mid-90s velo

http://twitter.com/BenBadler

Just goes to show how unreliable the AFL can be. Strange stats, tired players coming off 8 months of playing ball, vastly different performances one day to the next. Ive heard a lot of people report a lot of guys looked “tired.”

by alskor on Nov 12, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i think it proves

how shoddy a job sickels does

by firejerrymanuel on Nov 12, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

…because anybody who says anything even mildly negative about your favorite team’s prospect is doing a “shoddy job.”

btw, Meija got rocked today.

by alskor on Nov 12, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

mejia

I did not see Mejia. The “fastball may be too straight” thing was according to a scout who saw him in Arizona.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and his fastball still had a ton of life on it

Yes his fastball does have alot of life coming off a bat!

by GripDog on Nov 13, 2009 6:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that's not what was implied

you said “Some concern among those”

that implies more than one scout, and multiple opinions echoing the same thing.

A scout = “one scout had concerns that his FB was too straight.”

then it would’ve likely been prudent to say something about his whiff rate, his intense GB tendencies, and his lack of HRs indicating his pitch probably wasn’t that straight.

you manipulated your data, making it seem as though more than one scout thought his FB might be straight.

by firejerrymanuel on Nov 13, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're being an ass.

John has been at this a while. He’s pretty objective, he’s not out to get your guy, and he’s not lazy or manipulative with his data. Get over it.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 13, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm really not being an ass

no where am i accusing him of being biased. nor am i accusing him of "being out to get “my guy.”

that’s the staple comeback though, that i’m somehow offended that he didn’t like a dear friend of mine and therefore lash out against his negative reports like a child.

by firejerrymanuel on Nov 13, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

pretty clear

‘doing a shoddy job’ = personal

’you’re wrong on this guy’ = not personal

you are being an ass

by FI2 on Nov 13, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes, you are

You’re being sarcastic, smarmy, and generally a total asshole. You’re nitpicking and playing at semantics instead of just saying, I totally disagree, I think you’ve got it all wrong.

“Some concern among those” doesn’t imply more than one, it implies that at least one out of those he spoke with who saw him had concern. You read it to imply one b/c then you can write another super-douchey post.

“never heard a single thing corroborating that opinion, ever. every single report, every one, said his fastball moved like a mother” – about the assholiest way to make your point. Could have just not been an asshole and said “I’ve never heard that anywhere before”

“he gets a ton of grounders and gives up no homeruns, which usually is what happens when your pitch is straight… wait…” – sarcastic, like how asshole sound when they think they’re smarter than who they’re talking to.

by slickterp on Nov 13, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i believe it was kirkegaard

or maybe dane cook, who once said, “if you label me, you negate me”

by firejerrymanuel on Nov 13, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you quote Dane Cook

that’s proof enough of being an A@#$%$#.

by Cormican on Nov 13, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Kierkegaard

was the original emokid.

by aCone419 on Nov 13, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was Dick Van Patten.

And if you were an ice cream flavor, you’d be pralines and dick.

by PissedMick on Nov 13, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Lulz.

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by Frederick0220 on Nov 13, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm well aware of the reference

i’m just updating it for modern audiences

by firejerrymanuel on Nov 13, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

for what it's worth ...

I, too, was at the first pitch seminars … there were a few scouts that answered questions, and a lot of baseball writers who have some expertise. I hung out with some of the latter. I asked about Mejia twice and saw him once … I’m no expert, but I didn’t note any exceptional movement on his fastball, and I did hear one veteran writer/observer describe it as “flat”. The one time I saw him he was a lot less impressive than Scheppers to me, but, again, I’m no expert.

by squarejaw on Nov 15, 2009 2:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's uncalled for.

It was not his opinion, but from someone else. It’s entirely possible that when the other people saw Mejia, he had a bad day and his fastball was straight.

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by Evan_S on Nov 13, 2009 3:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Most of them have

Here was Mejia’s last start

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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 13, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so

don’t come here, then. Your not required to. Pissing and moaning over something that isn’t required is just stupid. He’s offering his free take from seeing/hearing about players. He’s not offering to be right on everything.

by toonsterwu on Nov 13, 2009 7:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Regardless, posting things that A) He did not see for himself (ie: Secondhand accounts) and B) Are grossly inaccurate (The most impressive thing about Mejia isn’t the velocity but that he’s able to have a ton of movement at a high velocity) is rather irresponsible on his part. I expect better from Sickels.

by adropofvenom on Nov 13, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my god

The guy saw four games. Most of what he does is talk to scouts. Scouts disagree all the time. There is nothing irresponsible or not genuine about it. If you want to hear only pro-Mets stuff and piss your panties when anyone has anything negative then head over to the Mets message board.

by alskor on Nov 13, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, when the consensus is that he has great FB movement….

I mean, this is from Baseball America today.

“His fastball is a swing-and-miss offering, not just because of its velocity but because of its outstanding movement. Mejia generates tremendous cutting action on his fastball, and he’ll also put some sink on his heater as well. Between the velocity and movement, Mejia has a pitch he can use as an out pitch or to induce grounders—71 percent of his outs on balls in play were groundouts during the minor league season.

"It has a lot of power—it gets on you quick," said Surprise pitching coach Tom Phelps, the Yankees’ Double-A pitching coach at Trenton during the 2009 minor league season. "He has a fastball that will cut, and he also has a fastball that will sink. As long as he keeps it down in the zone, he gets a lot of ground balls and a lot of early outs and quick innings. The big thing for him is controlling it in the zone and not getting behind hitters and walking hitters.""

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=6937

When the PitchFX data from the AFL backs up good-great FB movement, and his Fastball Movement is also well illustrated by his high numbers of both swings and misses and groundballs.

What reason is there to think that his FB is anything near straight?

Generally, those are signs that you might want to at least do a little more research before you run your mouth with a second-hand account. (As an aside, Seriously, who is this scout? Who does he work for? For all we know this could simply be a rival scout with a clear bias on the situation).

When you have a blog that you want to be taken seriously, there’s a level of credibility that needs to come with your insight. Posting things that are simply inaccurate at best, and pure “Glue-Sniffing” Fiction at worst. Well, he deserves to be called out on it.

This has nothing to do with “Mets bashing”…. it has to do with getting your facts straight before you run to your blog and post so you don’t make yourself look like a fool, and not doing so is simply irresponsible.

by adropofvenom on Nov 13, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Look

I was the one who posted the linked item disagreeing with John’s take! This isnt about content – you’re being a dick, as is firejerrymanuel.

by alskor on Nov 13, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with your opinion

I think adropofvenom is just trying to make a legitimate point. As far as I can tell, he hasn’t made this personal.

by JayWise on Nov 13, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

seriously though

Do people think John is a fragile second grader at a new school who is going to melt under any sort of criticism? It’s sort of embarrassing.

by gogotabata on Nov 14, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The funny thing is pitch fx

goes against your claim that he has “good great movement”.

Every fastball has a horizontal and vertical component and factors into a nice vector, but there is nothing eye popping about Mejias movement.

He does not have the best life, or even comes close the best movement of the higher velocity pitchers in the AFL. Go look at Scheppers and Strasburg’s pitch fx data. They blow Mejia’s movement away. For that matter he has less break in the horizontal, vertical, and in vector form in comparison with most pitchers he pitched with or against in the same game. Velocity does not matter without movement. His Oct 26th start he had by far the best movement of any of his 4 we have pitch fx data for. Outside of that start in comparison to the other pitchers in the AFL he does throw a relatively straight FB that on occasion has great life.

To say “that A) He did not see for himself (ie: Secondhand accounts) and B) Are grossly inaccurate (The most impressive thing about Mejia isn’t the velocity but that he’s able to have a ton of movement at a high velocity) is rather irresponsible on his part.” is a completely counterproductive on your part when your reference source, pitch fx data, does not support this. "(Y)ou might want to at least do a little more research before you run your mouth with a second-hand account of what you think you know about pitch fx data and Mejia’s movement.

Sorry, got to side with the scout and the empirical evidence to the contrary regarding his movement. If that makes me a Mets hater, so be it. Sorry to be an ass about this, but bashing John is way out of line when your main point of refute doesn’t match your claims.

I can easily see why a scout would have concerns over his FB being “to straight” if you look at his AFL data as a whole.

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by laxtonto on Nov 14, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This is even corroborated by what Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen told him

That he should use his two seam fastball more. The one thing the Pitch F/X does show is that he throws a fastball that has “cutting” action at much higher than average velo. Not a lot of pitchers can throw fastballs that move towards their glove-side at 92-94 mph. So that’s where he gets the plus movement tag from. But in terms of traditional, two seam fastball movement, he’s below par.

There is also empirical data that suggests his fastball is “deceptive” for one reason or another, be it movement for something in his delivery. He and Stras are the only two pitchers in the Top Ten in the AFL in both Whiff% and GB%, which is a deadly combination for a pitcher.

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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 14, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Still

Badler saw him a couple days later and said he was impressed by the movement on his fastball – and Ive definitely ready things in the past praising the movement. Of course, he’s young and inconsistent, so it could differ day to day…

by alskor on Nov 14, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When it comes to scouting pitchers, there’s no such thing as grossly inaccurate (not to mention TINSTAAPP). Besides, it’s not irresponsible if he explains he didn’t see it. John, said he didn’t see for himself and stated that the analysis was third party. If John passed it off as his own opinion, that would be grossly irresponsible.

by Cormican on Nov 13, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see James Simmons?

I saw his FB was 88ish on some of the AFL gamedays. I thought he was a 91 guy.

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by Syphon on Nov 12, 2009 3:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

simmons

didn’t see him. THe information I have from Triple-A sources had him at 87-88, maxing out at 90 in 2009.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Corey Brown

Noticeable? Scouts opinion?

by AgitationStation on Nov 12, 2009 3:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

brown

I saw Brown, and he looked exactly the same as when I saw him in the Midwest League and in the Big 12: very good athlete, fast, strong throwing arm, extremely erratic approach at the plate. Sometimes he looks like Kirk Gibson at his peak….other times he looks more like a left-handed hitting Rob Deer/Swing from the Heels guy.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds about right

While I didn’t make those specific player comps, this is what I’ve seen from Brown in the limited time I watched him.

by thejd44 on Nov 15, 2009 5:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Brown is having a nice AFL

OPSing 1.034. 3-3 with a HR and 2 Walks tonight. No Ks. If him and Desme can cut the Ks Oakland could have quite and OF sooner rather than later.

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by Syphon on Nov 13, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen Desme a lot this season

I get that it’s his first full season and all, but he still really can’t recognize breaking balls. At all. Like, it hasn’t progressed even slightly by now.

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by hero66 on Nov 14, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

Suddenly , he sort of reminds me of early career Jason Bay. Who still can’t lay off breaking stuff. At all.

Im not convinced its a fatal flaw, but Im not particularly high on Desme, either.

by alskor on Nov 14, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmm, nice comp.

I see the similarities.

J-Bay-Bay-Bay could be his ceiling, although I would be shocked if Desme would go on to reach it.

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by Frederick0220 on Nov 15, 2009 1:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying it's fatal...

But it’s just that when he looks bad…he looks really bad. I’m not saying he can’t be an above average ML regular…just that I doubt it.

Chris Carter was able to tweak some things and improve in Double-A after he had major K problems in the Cal League, so there’s that, but he had a history of being able to make adjustments and part of that was him hacking wildly the last month trying to get to 40 homers.

Also, we’re not sure he can come close to repeating those SB numbers sicne he has only average speed.

I guess my problem is I lean toward probability moreso than just upside, and Desme is just such a giant question mark. He’ll be one of the more interesting prospects to watch next year, that’s for sure.

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by hero66 on Nov 17, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How many times

Have you seen Desme play in person? How many PA’s? Thanks.

by Colorado Fan on Nov 19, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you have data to prove this?

Not that I dont believe you. Just would like to see it.

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by Syphon on Nov 15, 2009 2:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

data

That sort of pitch-specific data about minor leaguers is exceptionally hard to come by, especially for individuals outside major league baseball organizations.

by mrkupe on Nov 15, 2009 4:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well yes

Except what I had heard was that he had improved in his limited time before getting injured in that area.

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by hero66 on Nov 17, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't you hate pants?

Sorry, couldn’t resist. Thanks for the thread.

by aap212 on Nov 12, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hope he tells us to burn our pants

These things are driving me nuts…

(yes, I agree, thanks for the thread)

by PrincetonCubs on Nov 12, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see Wilin Rosario

If so what are your thoughts on his D behind the plate and potential?

by Hizilla on Nov 12, 2009 5:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

rosario

I saw him hit a home run, but I was more impressed with his defense.

One scout compared him to Miguel Olivo, which I thought was a good comp, keeping in mind that for all his weaknesses Miguel Olivo has some positive attiibutes.

by John Sickels on Nov 12, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ackley

In the above comment I was actually more concerned with his outfield defense. Did you get a good sense of that, or was he not really tested out there when you got a look at him?

by slamcactus on Nov 12, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ackley

I didnt’ get a good read on his defense in the two games I saw him play. Given his overall athleticism and good running speed (which I did see) I don’t think he’ll have much problem handling the OF with more experence, in theory anyway.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Casper Wells 2010 MLB ready?

Wells mashed the ball, but still needs to improve his k rate. any thoughts? Thanks.

by KalineCountry on Nov 12, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wells

Well I like Casper personally. Scouts have mixed opinions. . .some like him, some don’t. I do think the strikeouts are an issue, but I can see him as a guy who sneaks up on people.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Much appreciated John

I just want to say I really appreciate you taking the time to answer all of these questions from minorleagueball junkies. This is something that doesn’t happen everywhere. And certainly the amount of questions you have already answered puts this site (and you as the keeper of it) far above others.

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by nobodyinparticular on Nov 12, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

+1

Thanks.

by FI2 on Nov 12, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+3

Thanks, John.

by garry maddox on Nov 13, 2009 11:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

this

The guy bitching about John’s FREE report, passing along a scout’s opinion he doesn’t even necessarily share, is pretty classy.

$20 says he doesn’t own a Sickels book.

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by rswanzey on Nov 13, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

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by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+ some more

Many thanks from a lurker

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by nuthinboutnuthin on Nov 15, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Is Morrison in the AFL? I must have missed it. If so, would love to hear from John on this one.

by FI2 on Nov 13, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

peterson

Peterson looks like a pretty solid athlete, controls the zone well, a touch of speed and power. Dominguez’s glove looks excellent but his swing is kinda….i dunno, hard to describe, not really long, per se, but not really compact either. I don’t think he’ll be a great hitter by any means, but his glove is really good. Didn’t see Morrison.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

perhaps

I could see that…..great glove, occasional power, but not a good hitter overall.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

did you see lee hyde pitch?

could he comeback from his injury to be a real prospect?

hohohhohohoh its the offseason, time to rosterbate in public places

by esadb on Nov 12, 2009 5:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hyde

Didn’t see Hyde, didn’t pick up any buzz either.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Marcus Lemon

Ceiling: utility infielder or starting second baseman? And if you happen to have seen him in CF, do tell….

by Goyogringo on Nov 12, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lemon

didn’t see him in Arizona. I did see in him August, and I don’t think he’ll hit enough to be a regular. Good athlete though, hustles.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so....gritty, then? :)

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by t ball on Nov 13, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ruben Tejada

What did you think of him?

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by jimduquettesucked on Nov 12, 2009 6:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

tejada

Didn’t see him. I think he’s an underrated prospect in general based on what he did in Double-A.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I agree here, decent speed and pretty darn young for a AA player last year.

I think he could turn into Rafael Furcal or something similar….

Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Nov 13, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, except there's no reason to think Tejada isn't a legit SS

I mean, unless the Mets let Reyes walk after 2011, Tejada probably won’t play SS for them, but he’ll probably be more useful overall there. Offensively, I’d agree, O-Dog seems like a decent comp, maybe a few less strikeouts, a few more walks, and a little less power. And if he doesn’t reach that level, he’ll still have every shot to nab a backup role. Most of what I’ve read about him is that he’s a decent athlete, quick and a strong defender, but with little projection and very good fundamentals. His ceiling isn’t as high as you’d usually expect for a 20 year old coming off a solid Double-A campaign, but it looks very likely he’ll find some sort of major league gig, and he has a bit of upside.

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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 13, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair...

Looking back, is there any reason to think Hudson wouldn’t have been a legit SS when he was younger?

by aap212 on Nov 14, 2009 2:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ummm, how about

Minor League Games played at SS = 0?

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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 14, 2009 3:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I meant in terms of what he *could* do.

But the ummm really made your point better.

by aap212 on Nov 14, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol sorry

But seriously? If you can’t be bothered to go check B-Ref or something, then you get a snide non-word, like “ummm”. And yes, the fact that he’s never played a professional game at SS is reason to believe that, when he was a minor leaguer, he would not make it to the major leagues as a SS.

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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 14, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Still missing my point

I’m talking on talent and skills. Hudson had more of a chance to be a major league shortstop long-term than, say, Matt Stairs had to be a long-term 2B or Jesus Montero has to be a long-term catcher. I’m not talking about what people actually do. I’m talking about what they’re capable of doing.

by aap212 on Nov 14, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You said
Looking back, is there any reason to think Hudson wouldn’t have been a legit SS when he was younger?

I could say Ruben Tejada has a better shot of hitting 20 home runs in a season than Steven Strasburg, but that doesn’t mean he’s likely to hit 20 Home Runs. So what was your point? Ruben Tejada is much more likely to be a major league shortstop right now than Orlando Hudson was when he was in Double-A. When Hudson was in Double-A, the chances of him becoming a major league shortstop were approaching 0.

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What a fool I was to defy him"

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by Mark Himmelstein on Nov 15, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Meddler's right

Sure, he may have had the talent to play ss, but most likely not well. If he really did have that ability, he would almost certainly have played some ss. Very few are moved from 2b in minors to ss in the majors, or 2b low minors to ss high minors.

Tejada gets get fielding reports. Almost certainly a better ss than Hudson could ever hope to have been. But Tejada is also less likely to call his GM a flashy pimp style dresser, so he lags Hudson in that area.

by wobatus on Nov 17, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Eric Krebs

what did you think of him? he has some great movement on his fastball but has no command whatsoever… If he gains command, does he have a chance to be a dominant closer or just a 7/8th ining stepup guy?

by matthewmafa on Nov 12, 2009 6:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

krebs

I only saw Krebs pitch to a couple of hitters, and somene was talking to me at the time so I didn’t get much of a read on him.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a shame that he's not a hitter

I’d get a kick out of seeing him hit for the cycle.

by JayWise on Nov 14, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hehe

Someone had to do it.

by aap212 on Nov 14, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I took one for the team

Lame, but still kind of funny

by JayWise on Nov 14, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't get it either...

but it only took me two seconds to google “Krebs + cycle” and figure it out.

by PissedMick on Nov 15, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You lost me

I was saying that what he said still could describe Mark Prior. It was a joke.

by alskor on Nov 12, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

all I'm saying is

Mark Prior really WAS an excellent pitcher when healthy. I think we’re of the same mind there.

by mrkupe on Nov 12, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know it was a joke and all

But a healthy Prior was throwing in the mid-80s last I heard. Not sure how productive that would be.

by thejd44 on Nov 15, 2009 5:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

strasburg

Strasburg no question. Everyone loves him. The main difference of opinion is about his injury vulnerability…a few people worry that he stresses his shoulder a bit (I think BA picked up on this too), but most people expect he’ll be durable.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

did you see Matt Gorgen and Nevin Ashley?

Then again I never said I was a genius.....

by thedudeofdudes on Nov 12, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah

yeah, I saw both, although Ashley did not make much of an impression either way. Gorgon did…I like him as a future middle reliever.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kimbrel

With what you saw do you think he can become a dominant closer or a set up guy?

by braves32 on Nov 12, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

kimbrel

yeah I think he could be a really good setup guy, with a fair shot at being a closer if his command holds up..

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Last Desme question--promise...

Again, thinking in terms of footspeed, who would you give the edge to—Matt Holliday or Grant Desme.

You say that Desme doesn’t have great speed (and I understand that), but when those SB numbers are so high with speed that’s more average than great, one of the comparisons I think of is Matt Holliday. Would you say his speed is comparable at least to Holliday?

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by nobodyinparticular on Nov 12, 2009 7:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

desme

Hmm….well I don’t know what Holliday’s exact running times are, but I can see the comparison in theory.

Desme steals bases because he’s aggressive and has good instincts. In the majors he might be a 10-15 steal type of guy in a full season when he’s in ihs prime, assuming he gets on base enough.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Erbe

What are your thoughts on him? What is his ceiling?

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by ravensfan3 on Nov 12, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Solid #2 if he can figure out his command.

Love the max-effort delivery — not sure where his velo normally stands.

Anyone know?

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by Frederick0220 on Nov 12, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

why would you love a max-effort delivery?

isnt that supposed to lead to high injury risk? wasnt it the big knock on scherzer’s ability to stay in the rotation long run….

i thought the term “free and easy” velocity is what one looks for with a pitcher… someone who doesnt look like they are throwing their arm out every time they deliver… like feliz…

i would think this is a knock on his starter status and points to a move to the pen down the line

by PHGold09 on Nov 12, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like how Erbe utilizes his whole body (esp. legs) and gets all the velo he can get.

Max effort doesn’t necessarily increase risk of injury.

Prior was free-and-easy.

Lincecum is max effort.

It’s tough, man, because analyzing mechanics is nowhere close to a science.

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by Frederick0220 on Nov 13, 2009 1:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

erbe

Didn’t get to see Erbe. I’d agree with poster below that Erbe has a #2 ceiling, IF he gets his command in gear.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Casey Kelly

John, I know he wasn’t in the Rising Stars game, but what are your thoughts on Casey Kelly as a position player? I know everyone, BoSox included, prefer him as a pitcher, but can he be an above average shortstop? He still seems somewhat set on being an every day player. How does his swing and offensive game look? He’s obviously less experienced and polished than most of the other AFL guys, but are the raw tools there for him to succeed as an every day player? Thanks!!

by Lark11 on Nov 13, 2009 12:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

To go a step further

are you hearing any whispers about some possible make up issues with Kelly? I have heard a few rumors that he is more stubborn and ill tempered than one would want as a professional ball player…

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Nov 13, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

kelly

No one other than members of the Kelly family thinks he’ll hit enough to be a major league shortstop. He looks like he can field the position, but he’s simply not going to hit enough.

by John Sickels on Nov 13, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Interesting. Obviously, that’s not a good prognosis. I thought I remember one of the BA guys saying in a chat that he thought Kelly could be a league average hitter for a shortstop. He obviously has power and he seems to have a bit of plate discipline, but he’s obviously raw. If he were to press the issue of staying at short, he’d clearly be on the Ian Desmond development plan. He’d need lots and lots and lots of ABs to develop.

Going to laxtonto’s point, I think it’s curious that he’s still playing shortstop. Before he was drafted, I heard good things about Kelly’s makeup and I haven’t heard anything negative since then. However, maybe there’s a bit of stubbornness to him, which wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing. Still, I wonder if he’s going to push to keep playing short. It’s almost as if the BoSox are giving him ample opportunity as a shortstop, perhaps in the hope that he’ll see the light and agree to pitch full-time. Even so, reading the tea leaves, it doesn’t appear that Kelly is thinking about giving up on shortstop any time soon.

Given how difficult it is to find and develop an impact bat at the shortstop position, I’d be tempted to continue trying to develop Kelly at short if there was any realistic chance that he could improve his hitting. Above average glove and above average bat at short is a pretty valuable combo. Still, maybe it’s unrealistic to expect Kelly to even reach league average with the lumber.

Anyway, thanks for the thoughts, John!

by Lark11 on Nov 14, 2009 2:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe he signed on the condition that he would be given equal chance to show what he can do at SS, as well as what he could do as a pitcher. That’s why he’s getting the odd, half season at SS, half season at SP.

Didn’t know how long that was agreed to, but two years seems fair enough to me. I don’t see how he can do that much better at SS next season in order to convince others that he can be better at SS than SP.

Still, I hope he can do it because I drafted him on my keeper league thinking he was going to be a SS. :^)

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Nov 15, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Change plans

You want him as a pitcher, believe me. Once he gets the SS fixation out of his system he’s going to continue the development path he started charting this year, #2/3 starter and a precocious one. Advanced feel and solid stuff.

by blackoutyears on Nov 19, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kelly's make-up

I have heard conflicting reports from glowing to negative, but the negative seems to be third hand hearsay. He has a lot of poise supposedly on the mound, which may just be because he is good and has great control. The negative comments have said anger and stuborness issues. The stubborness may just be refusal to just pitch and give up on ss. Anger, who knows. I saw one blog comments somewhere about having a bunch of tats, which seems specious. Queequeg didn’t have makeup issues. Maybe they meant makeup like eyeliner and lip gloss. Anyway, googling words like anger or makeup in connection with him only turns up a couple of comments in fantasy threads, no direct quotes or anything.

I have definitely heard it, but I don’t think it has much credence. He may just be a cocky supremely talented athlete.

by wobatus on Nov 17, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mitch Moreland

Is his swing sound enough to hit big league pitching and, if so, will he hit enough to man a DH or 1b spot?

by Goyogringo on Nov 13, 2009 5:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He mentioned earlier he didn’t get to see Moreland, but people that have were impressed.

by BobbyS on Nov 13, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

cardinals

were you able to catch any st louis prospects while you were there? i followed their stats, and unfortunately no one was really lighting the world on fire, but maybe you saw how daryl jones and daniel descalso looked.

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by Shi on Nov 13, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

"I used to think that Jones could develop some power but I’m starting to doubt that now."

Said Sickels, on Jones.

Both Jones and Descalso have disappointing stat lines in the AFL but both have BABIPs in the low .200s. Descalso’s even walked more than he’s struck out, but that seems pretty similar to the other pop-less middle infielders the Cardinals have on the field right now.

I’m interested to hear more on how scouts feel about these guys, for sure.

by oplaid on Nov 13, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt McBride

He has one of the best BB:K ratios of anyone in the league and has been tearing it up at the plate, but it sounds like behind it, he’s been pretty awful. Any chance he can stay at catcher? If not, will his bat be good enough at 1B or LF?

by oplaid on Nov 13, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering what your thoughts on Antonio Jimenez, Mastraoianni, and Zawadzki are

The Jays have pushed Jimenez very hard despite being a young. Mastraoianni had a great year despite being essentially a non-prospect before hand and I am wondering if you have the chance to see him. Zawadzki really impressed me with his range at 2B in the All-Star game, do you think he can be a good defender at short?

by tdot mariner fan on Nov 13, 2009 11:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lambo

I didn’t see any Lambo questions (forgive me if I missed it). How did he look? Any comps and where do you see him playing long-term? Thanks!

by kinbote on Nov 14, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sickels on Lambo

John Sickels wrote:

Frankly he looked like "just a guy" to me…slower and not as athletic as I’d been led to expect, not a great swing.

by EMDarrow on Nov 14, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I gathered from the little bit of video that I've seen from Lambo over the last few months.

And it surprised me, given what BA said about him in last year’s Dodgers top 10.

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by Frederick0220 on Nov 14, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BA

They got off the bandwagon too. Badler’s report on him for the Southern League top 20 was pretty bleak, saying that some scouts see him as a 4th outfielder.

by jar75 on Nov 14, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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