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Elias releases MLB free-agent rankings

Personally, I'd be peeved if my favorite team signed one of these Type A free agents at the expense of a first-round draft pick.  It appears that some of them are locks to stay with their current teams (i.e. Rafael Betancourt) strictly by virtue of a club not wanting to yield its first-rounder.

Also, check out the link to the interesting story from Driveline Mechanics on the outdated criteria that the Elias Sports Bureau uses to determine their free-agent rankings.

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Should the Elias Sports Bureau modify the criteria they use for determining their free-agent rankings?

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wht are some bad choices this year?

type As who shouldnt type Bs who should be type A and stuff like that??

by matthewmafa on Nov 10, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Off the bat:

Darren Oliver, Billy Wagner and John Grabow shouldn’t be Type A.

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by RyanFromBonas on Nov 11, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Off the bat:

Agreed. I also don’t think it would be inaccurate to say that 90-95 percent of Type A relievers are not worth the first-round pick it costs to acquire them.

http://www.examiner.com/x-28775-MLB-Draft-Examiner
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by jesse.burkhart on Nov 11, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Right

How in the world Oliver or Grabow is “more valuable” than a Carl Crawford is beyond me.

by killa on Nov 11, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Adrian Beltre is a type B.

Orlando Cabrera is a type A. So is Troy Glaus, who played in about 15 games this season.

Something is very wrong here.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Nov 12, 2009 4:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Adrian Beltre is a type B.

I think the rankings are calculated using two years of data, if that helps explain some of the curious designations.

http://www.examiner.com/x-28775-MLB-Draft-Examiner
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by jesse.burkhart on Nov 12, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know exactly how the rankings are calculated

They’re a bizarre concoction of ancient statistics, with playing time treated as a separate category instead of modifying the other statistics. The whole thing is unbelievably idiotic.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Nov 12, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i accidentally voted no

obviously i meant yes. it needs to be radically overhauled. and it needs to include defense some how, but that will be difficult until a more sure fire way of determining defensive value is found.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Nov 10, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What I think is More Likely

Is they will change the value of compensation. The players union is pissed that their players aren’t getting signed to anything close to market value because of the draft picks involved…

by Dfarth on Nov 10, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yankees

Have to be happy to see Damon listed as a type A. They’ll offer him arbitration, since they’ll gladly take him on a 1 year deal, and when he declines, they’ll either resign him (when everyone stays away due to the required comp) or get a 1st round pick and a supplemental pick for a player they have no long term interest in.

by Locke000 on Nov 11, 2009 10:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

but we have to be upset

about Hairston not getting the B that seemed obvious. Don’t really care about Matsui too much though he should have been too. He is slightly more dangerous to offer arb too. Damon and Hairston would have gotten us some major draft picks.
I really wish Bruney was a free agent too. lol at that type B. lololol.

by sjkqw on Nov 11, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a joke.

It’s just as much a joke as the gold glove awards. We’ve made humongous strides in terms of player evaluation the last ten years, and Major League Baseball has stood frozen in time. I wonder what it will take to get the league to take action?

by PissedMick on Nov 11, 2009 6:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I expect there to be changes in the next CBA

I’d guess that the players, owners, and agents are all generally unhappy with the current system.

by jibs on Nov 11, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I expect there to be changes in the next CBA

You’d have to wonder if the owners and agents know that there are more sophisticated ways to evaluate defense than fielding percentage, and I’m not sure that they do.

http://www.examiner.com/x-28775-MLB-Draft-Examiner
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by jesse.burkhart on Nov 11, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why didn't they release the entire rankings this year?

They released all player rankings last year, not just the rankings of free agents. What’s up with them holding back the entire list this year?

by Andy Seiler on Nov 11, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's not like we aren't going to ridicule them anyway.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Nov 12, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs


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