Community Prospect List - Royals

by cwhitman412 on Oct 9, 2009 10:41 PM EDT Comment 47 comments

On to the Royals. I see tons of potential lists. Melville, Montgomery, Hosmer, Lamb, Moustakas, Crow, and Myers are all possible top 5 candidates. This system is really top heavy and could be another top 8 system.

My list:

1. Mike Montgomery

2. Hosmer

3. Wil Myers

4. Crow

5. Melville

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Tough list to make

1. Mike Montgomery
2. Mike Moustakas
3. Eric Hosmer
4. Wil Myers
5. Tim Melville

HM: Danny Duffy, Aaron Crow, John Lamb, Jeff Bianchi

by gogotabata on Oct 9, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mine

1. Moustakas
2. Montgomery
3. Hosmer
4. Crow
5. Duffy

by MightyMoose on Oct 9, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Been pondering this one for quite a bit

and will be curious what some Royals fans, like doublestix, have (although IIRC, he posted his top 5 in another thread recently),

I’m thinking, as of right now

1. Aaron Crow – I’m not sure I like this, but I also think he has the most upside of all their arms and I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt on being advanced enough.
2. Mike Montgomery – I think he’s dang good, and there’s a part of me that thinks his body of work should give him the edge over Crow, but I just don’t love him.
3. Danny Duffy – I’m probably overrating him, I know that. But I can’t help it. I think he’s almost a bit underrated.
4. Eric Hosmer – He’s young.
5. Mike Moustakas – He’s young.

My brain’s telling me that I should move Hosmer/Moustakas up one each, slide Duffy to 6, and move Myers in at 5. They’ve really got a nice group of talent, albeit, a lot of it very far away.

by toonsterwu on Oct 9, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Finally the minors are seeing some real talent

1. Monty
2. Duffy
3. Moose
4. Hoz
5. Melville

If Crow has a good showing in the AFL he could jump into the argument.

by gordonrules on Oct 9, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

top 5

1. Michael Montgomery
2. Danny Duffy
3. Aaron Crow
4. Eric Hosmer
5. Mike Moustakas

H.M. Tim Melville, Jeff Bianchi, William Myers, David Lough(OF), Carlos Rosa ?

Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 10, 2009 1:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My Top 5

1) Crow
2) Myers
3) Melville
4) Montgomery
5) Hosmer

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 10, 2009 5:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I like Myers at two...

but I was wondering why you don’t have Montgomery higher and why you have Crow so high. I think Crow will be a bust because his lasck of a third pitch and terrible delivery.

by joegonzo on Oct 10, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lack of third pitch?

nope

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by doublestix on Oct 10, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

All I know is that

Crow has, without a doubt, 2 pitches (fastball and slider) that grade out as plus, if not better. On top of this, he is almost major league ready. Montgomery looks good, but I don’t believe he has the ace upside of a Crow-type pitcher. Montgomery’s repertoire doesn’t strike me as excellent, although he is a lefty with a lot of talent.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 10, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Crow to AFL?

I remember reading some rumors when he signed that Crow would be sent to the AFL this season. Anybody hear anything recently on whether that will happen? I don’t see anything specific by searching Google news.

by jibs on Oct 10, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

apparently not

rumor was that he would, but i don’t think so. think he’s just going to throw in instructs and the “junior AFL”

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/winter-baseball/winter-wonders/2009/268925.html

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by doublestix on Oct 10, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lack of an average third pitch anyway...

he has good potential, but many believe his mechanics will be his downfall. He has the worst mechanics I’ve seen from this past years draft. If he doesn’t get hurt, he could be a force at the end of a bullpen, but I just can’t see him being a starting pitcher.

by joegonzo on Oct 10, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

PGCC, BA, MLB.com...

Not only did Crow impress scouts with his fastball velocity, but he held it deep into games, got good movement on the pitch and worked efficiently with it to both sides of the plate low in the strike zone. He complemented his fastball with an excellent slider at 83-85 mph and a quality changeup.

2008 – His changeup can become a solid third pitch, but he has had little use for it in college.

2009 – Crow used his downtime to get stronger and to work on his changeup.

Changeup: Much improved from a year ago, it’s a Major League average pitch now.

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by doublestix on Oct 10, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Major League Ready?

I don’t know if you can make that statement. He’s barely pitched in the last year. The lost year and the concerns about his delivery make me tentative to really endorse him.

by jar75 on Oct 10, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Almost major league ready...

and I can see that. I just can’t see him being a starter without fixing his mechanics.

by joegonzo on Oct 10, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

1. Montgomery
2. Crow
3. Melville
4. Duffy
5. Myers

by jibs on Oct 10, 2009 8:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

really?

no moose or hosmer?

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Oct 10, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

Neither offer any defensive/positional premium and both have major question marks about their ability to be impact offensive players. Plenty of time to turn it around for both of them, but I think the arms and the catcher are better prospects at this point.

by jibs on Oct 10, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's fair

but I don’t really see Melville offering that much either. I remember BA saying his ceiling is most likely a #3, if all works out. Moose’s home/road splits show the difficulty of hitting in Wilmington, if he struggles next year in the TL, there’s no excuse.

by MightyMoose on Oct 10, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Melville

The scouting report that BP posted in September had his fastball consistently 92-94 with movement, sharp curve and a solid changeup. 96 Ks in 97 innings in full season ball at 19 years old. With some sharpening of his command I see a future impact major league starter.

I agree that Moustakas’ home stats this year were pretty fluky and made his season look worse than it actually was, but I still have big concerns about his ability to take walks and get on base. I’d have Moustakas 6th and Hosmer 7th on this list, so it’s not like I feel they’re non-prospects or anything. I think that ranking either of them above Melville right now would be almost solely due to their draft pedigree, and even at that Melville was considered the top prep arm at the start of the 2008 “draft season” so he has pedigree going in his favor as well.

by jibs on Oct 10, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, it was really tough for #2.

I ultimately went with Myers, because I believe he can be a major offensive force at catcher, but Melville has everything going for him.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 10, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

1. Hosmer
2. Montgomery
3. Moustakas
4. Myers
5. Duffy

Melville and Duffy is pretty much a toss up for #5 and I’m not a big Crow fan.

by jar75 on Oct 10, 2009 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Anyone want to take a chance on where Daniel Guiterez would land in the Royals top

10?

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Oct 10, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

1. Montgomery
2. Hosmer
3. Crow
4. Myers
5. Melville

by AKinn15 on Oct 10, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

1. Montgomery
2. Crow
3. Moustakas
4. Myers
5. Hosmer

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by doublestix on Oct 10, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd go...

Montgomery
Myers
Hosmer
Moustakas
Duffy
Melville
Crow
Dwyer
Lamb
Bianchi

I really like Dwyer and could see him or Myers being number 1 a year from now.

by joegonzo on Oct 10, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

1. Montgomery
2. Moustakas
3. Crow
4. Hosmer
5. Melville

Draft guru in training.

by tj.hendricks on Oct 10, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My Top 5

1-Crow
2-Montgomery
3-Duffy
4-Moustakas
5-Myers

….Then would go…
6-Hosmer
7-Melville
8-Lough
9-Lamb
10-Dwyer

Myers, Melville, Lamb, Lough, Hosmer, Dwyer, Bianchi

I think this is a pretty deep Top 10 (but I might be a little Royal-biased), and I’ll be considering 8 of them for my Top 100 or 150 prospect list this winter.

by killa on Oct 10, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oops

That last line of names was a mistake, was looking at them side by side when ranking.

by killa on Oct 10, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is a pretty deep...

top ten. I think all 10 players you have listed have a decent chance to be above average major league players.

by joegonzo on Oct 10, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What do people think about Kila Ka’aihue?

I still like him and think he could be a solid player.

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on Oct 10, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

platoon 1B/DH for me

he’s a LH hitter so that could have some value. not convinced he’s a starter on a good club though. gonna rank him kinda low on my top 25…probably in the 14-17 range.

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by doublestix on Oct 10, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's a AAAA player.

Maybe, he could do something off the bench.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 10, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Regardless

He’s still a better hitter than almost anyone on the major league roster.

by Ophidian on Oct 11, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ehhh, I guess it's worth a shot to see if he's better

than Jacobs and Teahen.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 11, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he is

by jibs on Oct 11, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He should...

at least get more of a chanve than them.

by joegonzo on Oct 11, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes

that was one of the biggest f ups of the year. not seeing if he was better than jacobs. maybe he’s not, but there’s really no excuse to not give him a shot at DH.

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by doublestix on Oct 11, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Never liked him

Decent bat, like his patience, but he’s a guy with zero defensive value and his success has all come when repeating leagues with old ARLs. I dont doubt he’s made legit improvements over the past few years, but I just cant see him ever being even an average 1B/DH… so really, what kind of prospect is that? He’s old now, too. He could be a nice bench bat and play a major league role, but he’s very unexciting.

by alskor on Oct 13, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

great system. probably top 5 for me

1. Moustakas
2. Crow
3. Montgomery
4. Myers
5. Duffy

by daveh33 on Oct 11, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Moustakas at 1???

Maybe when he starts hitting, but those guys below him are damn enticing.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 11, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

everything i've read is that scouts still love him.

legit power, had a rough learning year, etc… believe me, by about July i was thinking he was terrible… idk. gotta go with the scouting reports sometimes

by daveh33 on Oct 11, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Royals top 5 is deep - here's my shot

1. Mongomery
2. Moustakas
3. Duffy
4. Myers
5. Crow

Hosmer takes a drop to 6 as his first full season was a disappointment. Montgomery’s great season with Wilmington/Burlington might have him starting at AA after his first season. Tim Melville is a good prospect too but won’t crack this group.

by daveyork on Oct 11, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Just A Bit Of Info

7 players have gotten votes. 5 possible spots makes it 35 possible placements. Only 6 squares are not filled.

Or in an easier to explain way.
4 players have #1 Votes
6 have #2 votes
All 7 have had #3 votes
6 have had #4 votes
and 5 have had #5 votes.

And all the players are top 100 material.
That’s what you call a strong and balanced system.

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by cwhitman412 on Oct 11, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Fasho

Brett Anderson is the Truth. Brett Anderson is divine presence. Brett Anderson is eternal life. Brett Anderson is within you. Brett Anderson is here. Brett Anderson is Now.

by Frederick0220 on Oct 11, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs