BA carolina league top 20

by doublestix on Oct 6, 2009 4:10 PM EDT Comment 29 comments

1. Jason Heyward, of, Myrtle Beach (Braves)
2. Brian Matusz, lhp, Frederick (Orioles)
3. Pedro Alvarez, 3b, Lynchburg (Pirates)
4. Freddie Freeman, 1b, Myrtle Beach (Braves)
5. Lonnie Chisenhall, 3b, Kinston (Indians)
6. Casey Kelly, rhp, Salem (Red Sox)
7. Mike Montgomery, lhp, Wilmington (Royals)
8. Mike Moustakas, 3b, Wilmington (Royals)
9. Ryan Kalish, of, Salem (Red Sox)
10. Danny Espinosa, ss, Potomac (Nationals)
11. Danny Duffy, lhp, Wilmington (Royals)
12. Anthony Rizzo, 1b, Salem (Red Sox)
13. Chase D'Arnaud, ss/2b, Lynchburg (Pirates)
14. Jordan Danks, cf, Winston-Salem (White Sox)
15. Zach Britton, lhp, Frederick (Orioles)
16. David Lough, of, Wilmington (Royals)
17. Luis Exposito, c, Salem (Red Sox)
18. Che-Hsuan Lin, of, Salem (Red Sox)
19. Jeff Bianchi, ss, Wilmington (Royals)
20. Brent Morel, 3b, Winston-Salem (White Sox)

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/league-top-20-prospects/2009/268965.html

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Moose/Kalish

I think Kalish should be ahead of Mustakas. They are right next to each other on this list. Even park and luck adjusted kalish smokes him.

And perhaps I am singular but I prefer d"arnaud to Espinosa. They are also close on this list. Espinosa has more power but d’Arnaud makes more contact. Espinosa may be the better fielder for all i know.

Overall this seems like a good list. I think the rankings are more in line with mine than cal league list, and happy to see d’Arnaud make it after his very similar half season line couldn’t crack the SALLY top 20.

by wobatus on Oct 6, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Danny Espinosa is the best SS prospect in baseball.

Be real with yourself.

by Daggerrrrrr on Oct 6, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good argument

Not that I made much of one myself.

park and luck adjusted numbers:

d’Arnaud .296/.400/.479, Espinosa .276/.383/.477. Espinosa more power and walks a tad more, d’Arnaud strikes out less. Espinosa supposedly has a good glove, and d’Arnaud supposedly ok too. Both a decent threat to steal a base and at a decent rate too.

Is Alcides Escobar still eligible? Ivan De jesus, Jr. missed this year but he is pretty good. Jiovanni Mier? Hak Ju Lee? Too far away? Reese Havens? Will he be 2b?

Not too deep right now.

by wobatus on Oct 6, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Disagree

I’d rather have:

Alcides Escobar
Jiovanni Mier
Dee Gordon
Grant Green
Tim Beckham

by jar75 on Oct 6, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would take Espi over all of those

guys minus maybe Escobar.

Espinosa does everything well except hit for contact.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 6, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think they know about Espinosa

Be real with yourself.

by Daggerrrrrr on Oct 6, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They just don't know, they just don't know.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 6, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL!

Be real with yourself.

by Daggerrrrrr on Oct 6, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would take...

Escobar
Mier
Green
D’arnaud

Over Espinosa. Tim Beckham is SO overrated and I don’t think Gordon or Catro has proven they will be good enough yet. Castro has a much higher ceiling than Espinosa though. D’arnaud is just a good all around player. There are very few holes in his game and I could see him becoming an above average shortstop.

by joegonzo on Oct 7, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

a prominent top 100

did not list Espinosa even in the honorable mention section (d’Aranud either), with 6 guys making the list and 2 on the honorable mentions-not counting Wilmer Flores since no one thinks he’ll stick. It’s a pay list so I will leave it at that.

On 9/1 project prospect did their top 25 position players, which with honorabe mentions took the list to 61. They omitted Espinosa as well, with Escobar, Dejesus and Desmond all in there somewhere.

Which doesn’t mean much but it doesn’t seem like there is much support for the concept that Espinosa is the top ss prospect in baseball. BA had Gordon at number 3 in the cal. Not a huge fan, but he gets a lot of scout love.

Espinosa is intriguing, of course. A ss with plus power for the position.

by wobatus on Oct 7, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Danny Espinosa is not the best SS prospect

Then why was he the starter in the FuturesGame this pass summer? Why didn’t they go with somebody better?

Be real with yourself.

by Daggerrrrrr on Oct 8, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

So, that must mean that Jason Castro > Buster Posey, right?

by jar75 on Oct 8, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, that is a really stupid argument, Dagerrrrrr

There were plenty of shitty prospects in the Futures Game. In no way was it indicative of the best prospects in baseball.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 9, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Leyson Septimo

Top 10 pitcher in the minors!!!!!!#!!

by aCone419 on Oct 9, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

d'Arnaud

does everything well and hits for contact (his iso was not that far below espinosa, .186 to .196). I bet Espinosa is a .260/.330/.430 guy, maybe peaking slightly higher, but that’ll be his average from 26-31. A Stephen Drew type, maybe a few more walks and steals.

Starlin Castro and Ruben Tejada are also nice ss prospects. Espinosa again has more power than those guys. Not saying they are as good.

And the Nats have a guy who may be better. Ian Desmond. Although I like Espinosa’s higher walk rate.

by wobatus on Oct 6, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

castro side note

side note is that castro is expected to develop power as he physically matures, and he is expected to have a plus glove. Basically, most expectations are that, the Castro you see now isn’t close to what he might become, but the keyword there is might.

by toonsterwu on Oct 6, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

zack britton

why so low?

by matthewmafa on Oct 6, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

it's really not that bad

there’s a ton of good prospects in this league for only having 8 teams.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Oct 6, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i can agree with most of this one

the top 6 are perfectly in order

by daveh33 on Oct 6, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Where is Brad Meyers?

He was one of the best pitching prospects in the Carolina league.

Be real with yourself.

by Daggerrrrrr on Oct 6, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

23 year old with 6.5 K's per 9 in that league...

not exactly the profile your looking for of a top 20 prospect.

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by doublestix on Oct 6, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha

I have nothing more to add.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 6, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rizzo/D'Arnaud

Very interesting neither cracked the Sally top 20, but ranked 12th and 13th in a stronger league.

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by ScoutingTheSally on Oct 6, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

quality varies

This league’s top 10 or so is awesome, but there’s definitely a dropoff in the quality level after that. Dan Duffy, Rizzo, and D’Arnaud are basically the “best of the rest” here.

by mrkupe on Oct 6, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There are twice as many teams in the SAL (16 v. 8 for)

by aCone419 on Oct 7, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

d'Arnaud/Rizzo

should certainly have made the Sally list ahead of Melky Mesa.

by wobatus on Oct 6, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Danks

What is the projection for Danks?

100 years would have been nice, but 101 years still has a nice ring to it.

by airweino on Oct 7, 2009 1:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's hard to get a good read on Danks...

Is he gonna be a 10-15 home run guy // 20-25?/

Is he gonna cut down on the strikeouts?

Can he stick in CF?

I can’t answer any of those questions, but I love me tha toolz.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 7, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Danks

Probably more of a 10-15 HR guy.

He NEEDS to cut down on the K’s to be successful. Could be a Grady Sizemore type with less power? That’s probably an overshoot though.

There’s no question he has the ability to stick in CF. He has speed, great defense, and a plus arm. A move to RF might make sense if you want someone there that has a good arm.

by kmule on Oct 7, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs