Minor League Awards for Your Team
Answer these questions for any teams minor league system of your choice.
Thought this would be fun to discuss here.
Minor league batter of the year from 2009?
Minor league pitcher of the year from 2009?
Most improved player from 2009?
Biggest disappointment in 2009?
What minor leaguer do you think will make the biggest impact in the majors in 2010?
Who is your minor league breakout candidate for 2010?
Heres mine for the Orioles'
Batter of the year- Brandon Waring
Pitcher of the year- Zach Britton
Most Improved- Brandon Erbe
Biggest Disappointment- Brandon Snyder
Biggest major league impact 2010- Jake Arietta
Breakout candidate- Ronnie Welty
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Rangers
Batter of the year- Mitch Moreland
Pitcher of the year- Martin Perez
Most Improved- Michael Kirkman
Biggest Disappointment- Max Ramirez two wrist injuries and Michael Main’s illness.
Biggest major league impact 2010- Justin Smoak or Max Ramirez
Breakout candidate- Miguel Velazquez and Tomas Telis for hitters. Braden Tullis, Chad Bell for pitchers.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 5, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Max Ramirez in 2010?
Besides the fact that the Rangers don’t have a proven backstop in either Tea or Salty, what about Ramirez this year is indicative that he’s ready to step in as a starter next year?
I’m just curious because I drafted him highly for a minor leaguer in my dynasty league, grew tired of his wrist, dumped him and he’s still rotting in FA.
Thanks in advance.
by two fishsticks on Oct 5, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Max
He is going to have to show he can hit in AAA before the Rangers call him up. He probably ends up as a DH/backup C.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Oct 5, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one really stood out to me
so I just put them down.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 6, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The
“Biggest major league impact 2010” that is
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 6, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You were reading my mind. :)
Breakout candidate: Andrew Doyle.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Oct 5, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to call Daniel Gutierrez as my “Breakout Candidate” for 2010. I think this is going to be one of those things that will haunt KC for a while,,,,,
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Oct 6, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe if he stops beating on his girl
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Oct 6, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Joe Wieland for the pitchers.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 6, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mets
Batter of the year- Ike Davis
Pitcher of the year- Jenrry Mejia
Most Improved- Ruben Tejada
Biggest Disappointment- Jefry Marte
Biggest major league impact 2010- Fernando Martinez or Josh Thole
Breakout candidate- Kyle Allen
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 5, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mets
Batter of the Year – Ike Davis
Pitcher of the Year – Jenrry Mejia
Most Improved – Kirk Niewenhuis
Biggest Disappointment – Jefry Marte
Personal Favorite Disappointment – Dillon Gee
Biggest Major League Impact 2010 – Josh Thole
Breakout Candidate – Reese Havens (aka, cement himself in the top 100) or Zach Lutz
by thudean on Oct 6, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to try and go as contrarian as I can
Tough to disagree on the first two, but how about this:
Most improved – Jenrry Mejia or maybe Jeurys Familia
Biggest Disappointment – Francisco Pena (Yeah, its probably gotta be Marte, but trying to change it up a bit)
Biggest Major League impact in 2010 – Jonathon Niese
Breakout Candidate – Lucas Duda (Strong second half and actually ISO’d .195 vs. RHP on the season, always had crazy BB% and power hitter’s size, could he finally be putting it together?) or Robert Carson (expect his Low K/High GB ways to play well in St. Lucie if Jordany Valdenspin and Wilmer Flores can play decent MI defense)
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on Oct 7, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, Niese.
In retrospect, I would pick him there.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 7, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Valdespin will is MOST LIKELY DONE!
Now that Tony B is gone, I see Valdespin taking a hike too! Bad apple!
Billy Chapel: "I can always tell when I'm in New York."
by LoveofTheGame on Oct 7, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was he a Tony B guy?
Did we ever find out what the “disciplinary issues” pertained to? I mean, it must have been egregious to suspend a toolsy middle infielder who was OPSing over .900. Either way, St. Lucie needs a second baseman, and preferably someone with some range if they have to make up for Wilmer at SS. If its someone junky the organization might want to consider shifting Wilmer off SS early, not so much for his sake, but for the sake of the awesome pitching staff that should be in St. Lucie next year (Familia, Allen, Carson, Beaulac, are a pretty solid front four, and all GB guys). They could move Wilmer and throw Robbie Shields into the St. Lucie mix I suppose. Seems pretty unlikely though. Or they could go all Fernando Martinez and move Wilmer straight to Double-A! Yeah!
"All energy flows according to the whims of the great magnet
What a fool I was to defy him"
-HST
by Meddler on Oct 8, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Missing Practice and His Response
Valdespin decided that he didn’t need to come to practice because he was hitting just too good as opposed to the rest of the team (you get the idea)…he didn’t go to practice. It’s what he said that got him the fine + being sent down…the in your face LATIN blood response.
The alleged injury of the pulled Hamstring when he got caught in between 1st and 2nd in a rundown. I’ll continue to call it alleged pull. Valdespin knew all too well, mental errors didn’t sit well in their manager’s gut and you paid a price for them.
Billy Chapel: "I can always tell when I'm in New York."
by LoveofTheGame on Oct 9, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Astros
Batter of the Year – Jon Gaston
Pitcher of the Year – Jordan Lyles
Most Improved – Koby Clemens
Biggest Disappointment – Brad Dydalewicz
Biggest Major League Impact 2010 – Bud Norris or Jason Castro
Breakout Candidate – T.J. Steele
by astrosfanforever on Oct 5, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Astros
Batter of the Year – Gaston
Pitcher of the Year – Lyles
Most Improved – Clemens
Biggest Disappointment – Brian Bogusevic
Biggest Major League Impact 2010 – Castro (Norris doesn’t qualify)
Breakout Candidate – Steele and Ross Seaton
I think you were right on target with many of the selections. Dydalewicz wasn’t that bad, while Bogusevic was listed as a top five prospect this offseason. He wasn’t terrible in Round Rock, but far less than expected. I love T.J. Steele, I think he’ll be great next season, if he can stay healthy. Ross Seaton also has to be listed, his low K/9 was a disappointment this season, but he’s better than that.
by byronlhsdrmr on Oct 6, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Astros
Batter of the Year-Koby Clemens
Pitcher of the Year-Bud Norris (gotta go with PCL POY)
Most Improved-Jon Gaston
Biggest Disappointment-Brian Bogusevic
Biggest Major League Impact 2010-Bud Norris (still has ROY eligibility)
Breakout Candidate-TJ Steele
I don’t feel that it’s fair to label Bogusevic a disappointment, as expectations were unrealistic. But, I chose him because he didn’t come close to meeting expectations.
by astrosfan76 on Oct 6, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Norris pitched 55.2 innings
Right? 55.2 IP, that’s not ROY eligible next year.
by byronlhsdrmr on Oct 6, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
The cutoff is 50 IP or 45 days. I’ll go with Manzella as the biggest impact for ‘10. If Castro is the OD starter, he is the obvious choice, but I’m not convinced that will happen. Manzella won’t be an impact player offensively, but he will be one defensively all season. In the process, he’ll be under-appreciated for his efforts, but the pitchers won’t mind him playing behind them.
by astrosfan76 on Oct 6, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy hell...
who knew koby clemens was actually good….do people think he has a chance to be something?
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Oct 6, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clemens
He was playing in Lancaster all season and will have to move to first base – outlook doubtful.
by byronlhsdrmr on Oct 6, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't write him off
I don’t think anyone’s going to have him on a top prospect list, but he’s a gamer. One of the Astros brass was asked about him and he described him as a guy who makes himself a good player, meaning he doesn’t have the greatest tools, but gets the most out of them. His season shouldn’t be viewed as only a product of his home park, he did hit .338 with an OPS of 1.023 away from home. I wouldn’t expect a repeat of his ‘09 performance, but he does have a good enough approach that he shouldn’t completely fall of the map.
The problem is going to be finding a position. 3B didn’t work out and catching has been a work in progress. He played a few games in the outfield, though it was more of a way to fill out a lineup (and keep his bat) than an experiment. At catcher, he did slash his PB this season, so maybe there is hope there, though he’s not going to bump Castro from that position. Unfortunately, he may not have enough power for a corner spot. He is only 21 and had 73 XBH, but at 5’11 193, he may not have room to add size without losing more mobility. He’s a guy to keep an eye on, but it’s hard to say what will happen.
by astrosfan76 on Oct 7, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
outside of Castro, Lyles and Norris this system is dreadful
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 7, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
twins
Batter of the Year – Dan Valencia
Pitcher of the Year – David Bromberg
Most Improved – Alex Burnett
Biggest Disappointment – Deolis Guerra
Biggest Major League Impact 2010- Dan Valencia
Breakout Candidate – Joe Benson
by hotshotschamp on Oct 5, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Benson
That’s a really good choice. Benson has all the tools, just has to stay healthy. Didn’t get a chance to follow him too much this year, how’d he look? Someone gave a comp. to Rocco Baldelli, but maybe that’s just the speedy/injury prone comp. that best fits him right now.
by MightyMoose on Oct 6, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guerra has definitely not been a disappointment this year
Last year was a disappointment. He rebounded strongly in the second half this year.
by Mike I on Oct 6, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same thing
Was reading the list and thinking there is no way Guerra is a disappontment this year. Personally, I would be disappointed by Hicks (not making a full season team) or Hunt (who has fallen to pieces).
by thudean on Oct 6, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 on SP turned RP Alex Burnett
he looks like he could turn out to be a better short inning pitcher that either Robert Delaney or Anthony Slama….
well, maybe not Slama.
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 7, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankees
Batter of the Year – Jesus Montero
Pitcher of the Year – Manny Banuelos
Most Improved – Ivan Nova
Biggest Disappointment – Andrew Brackman
Biggest Major League Impact 2010- Zach McAllister
Breakout Candidate – Brandon Laird
http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com/
by hallofamer2000 on Oct 5, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree for the most part.
Diappointment: Angelini was far worse than Brackman. I think Brackman is looking better than the start of the year. I know that sounds crazy, but I have to be one of his biggest supporters.
Big League Impact: A-Jax for sure. Melancon and Dunn will likely start the year with the team.
Others making their debut: Russo, Kroenke, Whelan?, Miranda, Curtis. I think Z-Mac wont sniff the big leagues until September minimum. The others could be there earleir except maybe Whelan and maybe Curtis. I also acknowledge Miranda might not be here.
Breakout Candidate: Hard to argue your pick. I also like to make picks that are currently around top 100 that can move to top 50 (systemwise of course) though with this so I like Justin Milo, Mojica, Paredes, Zolio. One could probably get that high. I also like Sean Black and David Adams to really boom their stock to top 10 orginization
by sjkqw on Oct 7, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Royals
Batter of the Year – Tie: Jeff Bianchi/David Lough
Pitcher of the Year – Mike Montgomery
Most Improved – Jeff Bianchi
Biggest Disappointment – Eric Hosmer
Biggest Major League Impact 2010- David Lough or Jeff Bianchi
Breakout Candidate – Eric Hosmer
by MightyMoose on Oct 6, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Parraz for batter of the year
and Rosa for big league impact
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Oct 6, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parraz
Not enough games or at-bats for me to consider batter of year, but he was pretty solid.
by MightyMoose on Oct 6, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
though he was awesome when he was healthy.
also thinking Blake Wood for my breakout guy. he’s too talented to be this crappy. i did predict he’d get big league innings in 2009…lol…i was way wrong there. so i won’t back off yet from my liking of him.
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Oct 6, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bianchi?
is he that good?
I’d give it to Lough by a mile
Montgomery is a great choice, but the biggest disappointment I’d say is Moose-Tacos
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 7, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lough would be a better choice, i think
pure athlete who is just getting better at baseball and it’s showing.
Bianchi…yeah he’s pretty good. around #9-11 for me in the system. good defender who should hit enough to not embarrass. Clint Barmes (good at SS, great at 2B) with a bit better bat for me. i’ll take that.
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Oct 7, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KG gives props to Lough
in his review of AFL guys. Good to see.
I don’t think Moustakas was quite as disappointing as Homser, when you look at the home/road splits. He better put together a really good year next year in the Texas League, or there won’t be any excuses for him.
by MightyMoose on Oct 8, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree with that on MOOSE
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Oct 8, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mariners
Batter of the year – I guess it has to be Liddi
Pitcher of the year- Stephen Hensley
Most Improved – Liddi again
Biggest Disappointment – Gregory Halman
Biggest major league impact 2010 – Michael Saunders
Breakout candidate – Julio Morban
by Kaorikaze on Oct 6, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not Bad
Although I’d probably go with Nick Hill over Hensley and Noriega (if you don’t consider his 2009 a “breakout” year) over Morban.
by ThomasG on Oct 6, 2009 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Noriega...
is a decent prospect, but his offensive upside is probably somewhere around Orlando Cabrera level. He’s small and quick and doesn’t have much projectable power. He doesn’t have as much breakout potential as Morban, who was playing hurt this year.
by slamcactus on Oct 6, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Mariners List
Batter of the Year: Liddi
Pitcher of the Year: Tie: Mauricio Robles and Nick Hill – Robles for finally giving us a good performance from a player with upside and Hill for being the organization’s best pitcher and making a seamless transition back to the rotation.
Most Improved: Joe Dunigan
Biggest Disappointment: Halman
Biggest Major League Impact 2010: Matt Tuiasosopo
Breakout Candidate(s): Matt Tuiasosopo, Denny Almonte, Juan Ramirez.
Like many previous years, the Ms are long on upside, short on results, and have a bevy of hitters in triple-A with a chance to be good but not great. Tuiasosopo is the wild card. He came back from injury to absolutely wreck the PCL in August, his only complete month in the minors (.322/.426/.619). He may get a shot at semi-regular playing time at 2B and 3B next year at the major league level. I really think he has a chance to become a major league impact bat that virtually nobody saw coming.
by slamcactus on Oct 6, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say Saunders over Liddi on Batter of the Year
Also what happened to Michael Pineda?
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 7, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He only threw ~40 innings this year.
And while they were 40 great innings, I don’t think that’s really enough to award him pitcher of the year.
by Kaorikaze on Oct 7, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
I mean literally what happened to him?
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 7, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mariners
Batter of the year – Alex Liddi.*
Pitcher of the year – Nick Hill.
Most Improved – Ryan Royster.*
Biggest Disappointment – Greg Halman. **
Biggest Major League Impact 2010 – Michael Saunders.****
Breakfout Candidate – Rich Poythress.*
- Hard to argue, even if it is mostly High Desert mirage.
- At 23, he’s probably old for the league, but going from a .604 OPS to a .991 OPS is nothing to sneeze at. I thought about mentioning Matt Magini but then came to my senses.
- You could throw in Carlos Triunfel losing a season or Phillipe Aumont being regulated to bullpen arm, but Halman takes the cake.
- Matt Tuiasosopo is going to get his chance as well. Dark Horse candidate – Aumont.
- Also, keep an eye on Scott Savastano, Kyle Seager, Julio Morban, and Andrew Carraway.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 11, 2009 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Format fail.
First bullet goes with Lidd. Second with Royster. Third with Halman. Fourth with Saunders. Fifth with Poythress.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 11, 2009 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox
Batter of the year- Ryan Westmoreland
Pitcher of the year- Casey Kelly
Most improved-Luis Exposito
Biggest Disappointment- Lars Anderson
Biggst Major League Impact 2010- Josh Reddick
Breakout candidate- Derrik Gibson
Who loves orange soda?
by Kenan and Kel on Oct 6, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree with that one but
I’ll take Kalish over westy (He struggled in the beginning and Dominated after that). Plus, dominating in AA is bigger than short season ball.
"That was a lot of fun… You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." Jeff Francoeur
by radiohix on Oct 6, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It was a toss up in my opinion. Kalish was more productive at a higher level, but Westmoreland is easily the most exciting bat in the system.
Who loves orange soda?
by Kenan and Kel on Oct 6, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pirates
Batter of the year- Pedro Alvarez
Pitcher of the year- Rudy Owens
Most improved- Brad Lincoln
Biggest Disappointment- Gorkys Hernandez
Biggest Major League Impact 2010- Pedro Alvarez
Breakout candidate- Wesley Freeman
by joegonzo on Oct 6, 2009 7:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree slightly
Batter of the year- Pedro Alvarez – agree
Pitcher of the year- Rudy Owens – agree
Most improved- Rudy Owens – Lincoln did well but Owens improved more
Biggest Disappointment- Gorkys Hernandez – agree
Biggest Major League Impact 2010- Pedro Alvarez – agree
Breakout candidate- Trent Stevenson- great start in limited time, can he continue it?
by persp on Oct 16, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I may consider OF Jose Tabata more so than Stevenson for breakout candidate….
but Trent is a good one
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 16, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indians
Batter of the year- Carlos Santana
Pitcher of the year- Hector Rondon
Most improved- Jeanmar Gomez
Biggest Disappointment- Beau Mills
Biggest Major League Impact 2010- Michael Brantley
Breakout candidate- Carlos Rivero
by JP_Frost on Oct 6, 2009 8:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Braves
Batter of the year – Jason Heyward
Pitcher of the year – Craig Kimbrel
Most Improved – Dimaster Delgado
Biggest Disappointment – Cole Rohrbough
Biggest Major League Impact 2010 – Jason Heyward
Breakout candidate – Randall Delgado
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Oct 6, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dimaster Delgado
I’ve said this on another thread, but despite very good numbers he really isn’t much of a prospect.
by slamcactus on Oct 6, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A 20 year old lefty, just 2 years out of the Dominican Summer League, pitching well in A ball with plenty of room to grow (very little muscle on this kid so far) isn’t much of a prospect? I understand that his pitches are not necessarily above average right now, but I think that has an opportunity to change. He has alot of muscle to put on, which will add velocity. His biggest weakness is his mechanics. Once he learns a consistent repeatable delivery, I believe all three of his pitches will be much more effective.
He’s not on the level of some of our other young pitching prospects, but I wouldn’t write him off just yet.
2009 – Rome Braves – Class A (LOW) – 99.2 IP, 3.61 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, 2.88 FIP, 25.2% K%, 6.3% BB%, 47% GB%, 4% HR%, and .317BABIP.
In the other thread, what were your arguements?
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Oct 6, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not Delgado?
Because a lefty throwing in the mid-high 80s without plus breaking pitches is not exciting. Is he a prospect? Sure, but not a significant one. If he tones down, then he’s what, 88-90? Ok, marginal prospect. 88-90 lefty (fb average) with two average at best secondary pitches (curve and change) is still just a marginal prospect. He had a good year, yes. But, his success stemmed from knowing how to be a good pitcher rather than stuff. His stuff needs to significantly improve to warrant him being “most improved”.
Even on his own team, I’d probably pick Spruill over Delgado. He’s younger, has more velocity (including a bump from his pre-draft scouting report), better GB rates. I feel moving from decent prospect to good prospect is significantly bigger jump than moving from non-prospect to marginal prospect.
by thudean on Oct 6, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Spruill is the better prospect.
However…
Spruill was a high round draft pick a year ago, whereas Delgado wasn’t ever drafted. My point is Spruill is expected to be good (although he is slighty exceeding expectations, and a wonderful prospect). He was good last year in Danville, and he’s been good this year at low A. I don’t really see an outstanding improvement, other than what was expected.
Delgado went from a quality year in the Dominican Summer League, to a slightly disappointing showing in GCL (very slightly), to a great performance in low A ball. Jumping from GCL to Low A isn’t an easy task for a young guy getting used to a new culture and lifestyle. I see an obviously bigger improvement from Delgado than Spruill.
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Oct 6, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Improvement to What?
That’s the end question is improvement to what? I’m not even sure Delgado is a Top 20 prospect in the Braves system. I guess, for me, someone who is a decent prospect that is now a good prospect is better than someone who went from being a non-entity to a marginal prospect. Its not as if I expect Delgado to ever be in the top 10 without significant (1) velocity increase (2) durability (3) strengthening and conditioning, and (4) improvement of secondary stuff. That’s a whole lot of ifs as good numbers don’t tell a full story.
by thudean on Oct 6, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll repeat, he is a 20 year old that just a few years ago was training with Diformermaster in no telling what kind of conditions in Panama. He’s putting up great numbers in a league with decently developed professionals that he probably can’t even communicate with (I’m not sure about his English). I understand that his stuff isn’t as nice as other prospects (I even said that in my other post), but you can’t write him off when he is so raw and undeveloped.
If you don’t think he can improve, or even give him the chance to improve than you stuck too far up your own brownie to see the light of day.
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Oct 7, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're...
not writing him off. He’s in the “potential prospect” category. The best version of each of his pitches is not good enough to get major league hitters out. When a guy has pitchability but doesn’t yet have a major league arm, he isn’t much of a prospect. Interesting, sure, but not a prospect.
Some raw 20-year-olds see their fastball velocities increase. Some throw out their arm and see their velocities decline without suffering any appreciable injury. A huge number get injured and never pitch again. Pitching prospects are guys with the raw stuff to succeed at the major league level. Anyone who doesn’t have that gets filed away in the “suspect” drawer.
by slamcactus on Oct 7, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Feel I need to agree with this post, especially the part where the best version of each of his pitches may not being good enough to get major league hitters out. That’s my concern. His numbers are good, but the stuff doesn’t match and a better fastball and improved breaking pitches still makes him only a lower tier prospect.
by thudean on Oct 7, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the fact that he doesn’t throw mid 90s heat and needs to work on his secondary stuff, like most young pitchers, means he’s not a prospect? I’m judging him more on his performance compared to older players in the league (not old old, but a year or two). Look at JJ Hoover, on the same team. Hoover is older and has really electric stuff, yet Dimaster was nearly as successful in the same league.
I’m not a huge fan of soft tossing lefties either, but you can’t say that none of them are eligible to be prospects.
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Oct 8, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I can
Jamie Moyer is a once in 50 years freak. Beyond that, a soft-tossing lefty’s upside is as a 5th starter in the majors.
Arms fail all the time. There are literally hundreds of guys in the minors with better arms than Dimaster Delgado. He’s got all the risk associated with any pitching prospect, and none of the reward. I guess it depends on how you define prospect. If you look at anyone with a shot at a major league career as a prospect, than sure, D. Delgado can count. If you look at it as, “out of the 10,000+ guys playing affiliated baseball, the guys with the best shots at good major league careers are the ones we call prospects” then no, a guy with Delgado’s profile doesn’t qualify.
by slamcactus on Oct 12, 2009 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think what he means is a pitcher that has nothing else to offer.
The Moyer comp was a good one for most of Jamie’s earlier career. Once he developed a heck of a changeup, Moyer became a much better pitcher. But he’s right that such a thing doesn’t happen very often. Buehrle
I would actually say it’s more fair to use names like John Halama, Luke French, Greg Olsen, and whatnot.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 12, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
those guys are 4th-5th pitchers at best. They also each have more fastball velocity than Dimaster Delgado.
The other thing to note is that the guys who make it with that profile have very good secondary pitches. Delgado doesn’t. He has an ok curveball that probably grades as a 40 most repetitions of it and might be a 50 when he spins it off perfectly, and he almost never uses his changeup. If he improves both pitches and gets his FB velocity into the upper 80s more consistently (as opposed to the mid-80s, where he generally sits now), then he enters the Ryan Rowland-Smith class of marginal prospects who could be solid at the end of a rotation. If not, he falls into the Bobby Livingston category: great minor league numbers, might get a spot start every now and then, very little shot at a long major league career.
by slamcactus on Oct 13, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bemgarner throws high 80s
with no secondary piches yet has the best stats of any prospect except for Ks
by matthewmafa on Oct 13, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bumgarner? I thought he threw harder than that.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 13, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does...
by slamcactus on Oct 14, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you making this up as you go along?
Bummy is consistantly 92-93 on the gun and dials it up frequently….
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 15, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He...
was overreacting to late-season scouting reports of a few starts where his velocity was down. We’ll see what happens next year, but my bet is he’s fine.
by slamcactus on Oct 15, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it wasn't a few starts though
there was a poster here who said he was routinely in the high-80’s in ALL of his AA starts this year. i don’t remember who it was.
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by doublestix on Oct 16, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That...
poster is blatantly contradicted by Goldstein, who is in touch with several more scouts who regularly bring radar guns to minor league stadiums than anyone who posts here.
Via Goldstein’s twitter: September 8: If you’re not worried about Madison Bumgarner’s velo drop over the last few weeks . . . you should be
And to clarify:
“Was 93-94, touching 96 in late May. June was inconsistent, July consistently down”
by slamcactus on Oct 16, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shut up
did you not see his starts in the mlb?
by matthewmafa on Oct 15, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude.
His velocity was down. At the end of the year, it crept back up. He was NOT sitting in the mid-80s when he was anointed one of the top pitching prospects in the minors. If you think he was, you’re just wrong.
by slamcactus on Oct 15, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buehrle...
isn’t Moyer. His stuff is significantly better.
by slamcactus on Oct 13, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
specifically...
he has 5 pitches, each with crazy break, including his fastball, which has a ton of movement on it. Moyer at his best had a below average fastball, a serviceable curve, and an amazing changeup, and every pitch played up because of his ability to locate them perfectly.
by slamcactus on Oct 13, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not going back through all these posts.
but i recall the issue thudean brining up being soft-throwing lefties without a plus breaking pitch. that’s buehlre.
and, yes, i’m aware jamie moyer is a lesser pitcher. and, yes, i’m aware that mark buehrle is an outlier.
by larry on Oct 14, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buehrle doesn't have a plus breaking pitch?
News to the league.
Fangraphs shows his Cutter, Change, and Curveball to all be effective pitches.
So it’s not that Buehrle is an outlier, he’s not even in the same comp set.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 14, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
breaking pitch is a curve
and he barely throws it
by matthewmafa on Oct 14, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
10.9% of his overall career totals.
Doesn’t really matter, Buehrle has a very effective changeup which he throws about 17.6% of the time. The rest are cutters (14.6%) and fastballs (50.9%). So I’d say he mixes his pitches well.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 14, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad
because Dimaster Delgado is an awesome name.
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by PaulThomas on Oct 12, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who Di-Master?!
SHO NUFF!
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 13, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would argue
Most Improved – Adam Milligan – Huge season coming back from an injury.
Breakout Candidate – Christian Bethancourt – I really think this kid is going to do very well next season. May start in Rome at 18. You can’t go wrong with Delgado either though
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Sleeper Pick – Robinson Lopez – He was my sleeper pitcher this season and didn’t disappoint.
by Jay212033 on Oct 6, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Points
Milligan did have a great season, however, I believe his numbers are a tad inflatted due to his age compared to others in the Rookie league and low A. I’m especially concerned about his slow bat speed and high strike out rate. He is a poor man’s Cody Johnson.
Bethancourt fell just shy of my potential breakout player. The reason I didn’t choose him is because I think he did the majority of his breaking out this season. I think he will continue to get better, but IMO his awesome past season in the GCL was his breakout. Randall Delgado struggled at times this season, but when he is on he is brilliant. Randall is a consistent season away from being a top 50 prospect. He still has room to grow aswell…
Sleeper – I can’t wait to see Lopez either, I just don’t know much about him other than he dominated GCL hitters at 18 years old.
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by bwellnjonesco on Oct 6, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milligan
A 21 Y.O. playing his very 1st professional season in Rome is not old at all plus he ended up in MB so starting next season in MB at 22 will be just fine. He does K quite a bit and doesn’t walk a ton but this was just his first season and he didn’t even play a full season so I’ll judge his plate discipline after his 1st full season.
Lopez can was 94-96 consistently according to some Braves scouts with a very good change and a developing cuvre.
by Jay212033 on Oct 6, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a college bred player playing with 18 yr old Apply league kids for half the season. Rome was a tad more reasonable, but the Beach will be his true testing grounds…
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Oct 6, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Half the season
He played 9 games in the Appy league, I would hardly call that half a season.
by JFP on Oct 7, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your correct, sorry.
I was thrown off since the rookie league doesn’t start until later in the MILB season, and he was promoted to Rome after their midseason…
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by bwellnjonesco on Oct 7, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snyder is in no way a disappointment to me
I assumed he would spend the entire season in AA.
Rowell is my major disappointment.
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by wickedwitch on Oct 6, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rays
Batter of the Year – Desmond Jennings
Pitcher of the Year – Jeremy Hellickson
Most Improved – Jason McEachern
Biggest Disappointment – Tim Beckham
Biggest Major League Impact 2010 – Wade Davis
Breakout Candidate – Wilking Rodriguez
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by Brickhaus on Oct 6, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with BOTY, POTY, BD, and BMLI'10
But the other two, I would go with:
Most Improved: Alex Colome
Breakout Candidate: Jason McEachern
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by RWRays on Oct 7, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
White Sox
Batter of the year – Tyler Flowers
Pitcher of the year – Dan Hudson
Most Improved – Tyler Flowers. I say him because he just added a huge component to his game – good defense.
Biggest Disappointment – Jordan Danks
Biggest major league impact 2010 – Flowers/Hudson if he’s a starter/C.J. Retherford if he’s called up before the AS break
Breakout candidate – David Holmberg
by kmule on Oct 6, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd go with
Batter of the year – Tyler Flowers
Pitcher of the year – Dan Hudson
Most Improved – Dan Hudson – was pitching for Great Falls a year ago, now in the majors and arguably the top prospect in the system.
Biggest Disappointment – Dayan Viciedo. Danks did sort of what i’d expect him to have done, can’t say I found it disappointing. Viciedo got a huge contract and, while he was young for the league and was adjusting to a new culture, he didn’t live up to it.
Biggest major league impact 2010 – Hudson
Breakout candidate – Miguel Gonzalez. Holmberg looks good long-term but I’m not sure the breakout happens next year; also gets plenty of hype already.
by larry on Oct 7, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Viciedo
I went with Danks as my biggest disappointment because the way I look at it, Viciedo is still just 20 and in AA. He put up a .280 average. While the OBP and SLG % weren’t as good as I would have hoped, I really can’t say he was a disappointment – just didn’t live up to his hype. As for Danks, he started off REALLY strong and then kept getting injured and his numbers plummeted. When the season began I expected him to be our CF/RF of the future. I hope he still can. But he’s definitely been set back.
Good call with Miguel Gonzalez. I was actually going to go with him. Loved his performance at Bristol.
by kmule on Oct 7, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess i just didn't see get the hype about danks after a strong start (though you obviously ranked him a bit more highly than i did initially, too)
so i didn’t have my expectations raised. signability was a concern, of course, but there’s a reason he slipped to the second day of the draft. love the tools but the same questions i had about him before the season are still there. guess i just don’t see it as a setback so much as being static. but i see your point.
by larry on Oct 7, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants
Batter of the year – Thomas Neal
Pitcher of the year – Madison Bumgarner
Most Improved – Dan Runzler
Biggest Disappointment – Angel Villalona
Biggest major league impact 2010 – Buster Posey (dear God, please…)
Breakout candidate – Thomas Joseph
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by tedfordfan on Oct 6, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I pretty much agree with this, though I might put Buster as the BotY and Neal as the Most Improved.
Other disappointments: Gillaspie, Noonan.
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by jponry on Oct 6, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought about all of those, but figured Neal had the better season at the plate and couldn’t argue past Runzler going from low A ball to the bigs after being drafted last year. Gillaspie and Noonan disappointed but weren’t abysmal, and even if Villalona didn’t get arrested, he might have had the most disappointing season (conditioning, defense, plate discipline…) out of all of our prospects.
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by tedfordfan on Oct 6, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I wasn’t trying to say that Gillaspie and Noonan were more of disappointments, just other possible choices.
I do agree with StickRat below that Noonan could be a good breakout candidate for 2010 though.
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by jponry on Oct 7, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gillaspie actually finished the year very strong. He went 3-for-3 with a big homerun in an elimination game against Bakersfield in the Cali League North Division playoffs. And his secondary numbers like doubles and batting average vs. left-handers were strong. He is a solid ball player.
by StickRat on Oct 7, 2009 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
defense remains a question for Gillaspie. He may not stick at 3rd, but I guess that’s been the rap all along.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 7, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I’m quite certain he won’t stick at third. His arm is above average though, and he has more than enough baseball acumen to move to the outfield.
by StickRat on Oct 7, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m glad he did, but a sub-.400 SLG from a college player in the CAL League is still disappointing. I do like the strikeout-to-walk ratio very much though.
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by jponry on Oct 7, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he isn’t a homerun hitter, so his slugging percentage is going to pale. Still, he had 31 doubles this year. I’m not saying he is going to be Wade Boggs (who had a career minor-league slugging percentage of .386) but he isn’t Brian Dallimore either. I’d say he’s the median of the two, which makes for a pretty solid player.
by StickRat on Oct 7, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants
Batter of the year – Buster Posey
Pitcher of the year – Madison Bumgarner
Most Improved – Thomas Neal
Biggest Disappointment – Henry Sosa
Biggest major league impact 2010 – Buster Posey, Dan Runzler, Brett Pill
Breakout candidate – Nick Noonan
by StickRat on Oct 7, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t consider Sosa a disappointment since he was coming off of an injury already. He just got hurt again before regaining his previous form (and presumably, his previous fastball velocity).
How can Pill make an impact when he profiles as the same player as Ishikawa (decent bat, little power, great D at 1B)?
I like you’re Noonan call on breakout candidate. I tend to look for high upside younger guys from short season leagues like Edward Concepcion or Jose Casilla, but Noonan is a more advanced guy who could really move next year.
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by tedfordfan on Oct 8, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sosa pitched great, but he was coming off a knee injury this season. Now he’s dealing with a shoulder injury. Biggest disappointment doesn’t have to mean poor performance. I thought Sosa was the best right-hander in the farm system even before they traded Tim Alderson. Given the success he had in limited play this year, I’m very disappointed, being as his future is currently up in the air. Of course, the Villalona situation is also cause for disappointment. If the trial resolves in his favor though, his baseball skills are not in question so far as I can see. Otherwise, I think there wasn’t any highly regarded prospects that underperformed terribly in the Giants minor-league system this year.
Pill is something of a gut feeling. I think he’s got a solid approach. Much like Jeff Kent, he can slash, he can turn on inside stuff, and he crushes mistakes. A majority of people I talked to who saw Connecticut this year said he was the team’s best hitter. High praise, considering what Brock Bond and Eddy Martinez-Esteve did this year. What I think Pill has going for him more than anything else though is opportunity. As it stands, the first-base job is there for the taking. At worst, I think he compliments Ishikawa tremendously.
by StickRat on Oct 8, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Giants List
Batter-Buster Posey
Pitcher-Dan Runzler
Improved-Thomas Neal (also Runzler and Brandon Crawford)
Disappointment-Villalona
2010 Impact-Posey
Breakout-Francisco Peguero
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by Gobroks on Oct 11, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reds
Batter of the year — Chris Heisey
Pitcher of the year — Travis Wood
Most Improved — Juan Francisco
Biggest Disappointment — Neftali Soto
Biggest impact in 2010 — Todd Frazier
Breakout candidate — Zach Cozart
by Snake the Jake on Oct 6, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nationals
Batter of the Year – Derek Norris
Pitcher of the Year – Ross Detwiler
Most Improved – Derek Norris
Biggest Disappointment – Carlos “Esmailyn Gonzalez” Alavarez
Biggest Major League Impact 2010 – Ian Desmond
Breakout Candidate – Destin Hood
by seabass on Oct 6, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Biggest 2010 impact Desmond?
Methinks you’re forgetting someone…
by slamcactus on Oct 7, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was thinking the same thing
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by flipgatey3 on Oct 11, 2009 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's not considering him because he hasn't played a pro game yet?
It’s silly, but hey.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 11, 2009 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Storen, of course.
Actually, I was trying to actively forget about Strasburg for Pitcher of the Year, since he wasn’t eligible, and managed to fully shun him from my mind by the time I got to MLB Impact.
But Desmond should still have a nice impact.
by seabass on Oct 12, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derek Norris Scouting Report
We featured Norris today over at MLBFP. What do you guys think? Will he stay at C, or does he move to 1B or OF?
by Steve @ MLB Fantasy Prospects on Oct 7, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
New York Mess
Batter: Ike Davis
Pitcher: Jenry Mejia
Most Improved: Captain Kirk Niuenheis (help me here)
Biggest disappointment: Fernando Martinez (simply b/c of injuries)
2010 Impact: Jon Niese
2010 Breakout: Reese Havens
Sleeper: Alfonzo Harris
by brianthefantasyking on Oct 6, 2009 2:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
no way is Fernando Martinez a disappointment this year.
Marte x10 in the disappointment category.
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by squid92 on Oct 7, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tigers
Batter: Ryan Streiby (1B/OF/DH, AA Erie)
Pitcher: Casey Crosby (LHSP, A West Michigan)
Most Improved: Alex Avila (C, MLB Detroit) or Scott Sizemore (2B, AAA Toledo)
Disappointment: Jeff Larish (1B/3B AAA Toledo)
Impact talent: Scott Sizemore (2B, AAA Toledo) or Wilkin Ramirez (OF, AAA Toledo)
Breakout talent: Cale Iorg (SS, AA Erie)- I’m going to be on the bandwagon for one more year and then I’m bailing.
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by demondeaconsbaseball on Oct 6, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A's
Batter: Chris Carter
Pitcher: Ben Hornbeck
Improved: Ben Hornbeck
Disappointment: James Simmons
2010 Impact: Brad Kilby
Breakout talent: Tyson Ross
If you’re wondering why I picked Kilby, the top 3 prospects in the system (Carter, Wallace, Cardenas) all look to need more AAA time. I think Kilby is the only rookie who will break camp with the team.
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Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
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by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not Corey Brown for breakout talent?
Batter: Carter
Pitcher: Hornbeck
Improved: Leon
Disappointment: Doolitte (just because it was looking like he might break out, and then he had kind of an injury-wasted season. I still like him going forward)
2010 Impact: Kilby
Breakout talent: Brown
I’d also like to nominate Paul Smyth for the “um wut” award.
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by walk off bunt on Oct 6, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My A's list
Batter: Carter
Pitcher: Capra
Improved: Carter
Disappointment: Simmons
2010 Impact: Kilby
Breakout Talent: Michael Spina
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by hero66 on Oct 7, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Spina?
A 22-year-old third baseman in low-A with a slightly above-average OPS? 11th round pick?
Huh?
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by PaulThomas on Oct 7, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
He’s a big, strong guy who’s got impressive power and from what I’ve heard can at least play a passable 3rd. Jim Callis said some good things about him in a chat a while back.
He’s my deep, deep sleeper though. I definitely believe Capra or Leyland or Leon can break out next year.
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by hero66 on Oct 7, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gun to my head, if I had to pick a deep-round sleeper from this year's draft
I’d go with Chris Mederos, just based on command.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
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by PaulThomas on Oct 8, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not familiar with him
Could you fill me in?
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by hero66 on Oct 8, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way...
Considering how much I’ve been talking about him already, I can’t believe I forgot about Dan Thomas.
That’s what happens when you just can’t stay healthy. I think he can turn into an elite RP prospect if he ever does stay on the field.
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by hero66 on Oct 8, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My A's list
Batter: Carter (easily)
Pitcher: Capra
Improved: Desme (hard to say improved, cause essentially it was his 1st season)
Disappointment: Hunter (great K/9 but terrible BB/9 and I give him some slack cause his mechanics have been altered. But I still expected to take off)
2010 Impact: Wallace (He may start the season w/the big club, but I think he’ll come up early)
Breakout Talent: Brown (Soo many to choose from though; Ynoa, Hunter, Green, Stassi, Krol, Leyland, Dixon and even a couple more. These are all legitimate breakout high talent players…maybe not Leyland as much as the others)
by Berserk on Oct 9, 2009 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I love Arnold Leon
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 7, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A's
Batter of the Year – Chris Carter
Pitcher of the Year – Arnold Leon (HM Paul Smyth)
Most Improved – Anthony Capra
Biggest Disappointment – James Simmons (HM Jemile Weeks)
Biggest Major League Impact 2010 – Chris Carter
Breakout Candidate – Grant Desme
by toni on Oct 10, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs
Best Hitter (Based on performance): Kyler Burke
Best Pitcher (Based on performance): Casey Coleman
Most Improved: SS Starlin Castro (with nods to Randy Wells and Jake Fox)
Disappointment: P Jeff Samardzija
2010 Impact Candidate: P Andrew Cashner (see him getting called up as a reliever mid-season)
2010 Breakout Candidate: IF Ryan Flaherty
by Outshined_One on Oct 6, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
flaherty
Curious how you think Flaherty can break out more than what he did this year in the MWL (a pitchers league, which you already know)? He was third in the league in HR’s as a 2B/IF and seemed to do better the second half of the season. Are you somewhat basing a breakout on maybe him being fast tracked to a more age appropriate league AA (with a late shot at AAA next year) and with the mess the Cubs have at 2B in the majors?
I think Larry Suarez will have a big year next year. He was a touted international signee and next year will be his 4th in the Cubs org. while he’s still only 19 currently (turns 20 in Dec).
by Swish54 on Oct 10, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Baker
Honestly, if it wasn’t for the need for another top of the order bat, which might have to come at 2nd base, I would be fine with going into next year with Jeff Baker as the 2nd baseman.
Anyhow, I think most Cubs fans agree that, on performance, Burke/Coleman were the respective bests this year, and I’d go with Castro as most improved. For the bottom three, I’d go
Disappointment – To be honest, there weren’t that many glaring disappointments this year. For me, it was Jovan Rosa. Seeing him swing the bat last year, I thought that, if he could maintain that swing, fill out a bit more, that this could be a 20-25 HR a year guy in time. He got hurt at the start of the year, then he started going for the long ball, which got his swing out of whack. It’s quite likely he’s just a gap power guy. The Cubs moved him to C for instructs, where the lack of power is less of an issue.
2010 Impact Candidate – Jay Jackson. There’s an outside shot he fits into the rotation, but he’ll likely get called up for the pen. While Cashner has a slightly higher upside and maybe slightly better velo, Jackson has run the ball in the high 90’s in short stints and has a filthy breaking ball (I could’ve sworn it was a slider, which was what I saw this summer, and what old reports indicated, but Badler indicated that it was a plus curve, average slider in the Southern League BA stuff). In some respects, he’s Marmol-lite, which is a good thing considering how Marmol loses control so much. I think he’ll be up in the pen at midseason … and I wouldn’t rule out Jackson being the setup man late in the year.
2010 Breakout Candidate – Welington Castillo. This might be a tad odd. That said, Castillo had some bad luck the first half, and put together a strong line the 2nd half. His defense was reportedly better. For all the comparisons to Yadier Molina that have been made, I think a comparison to another Molina brother, Bengie, may be a better fit. Another option might be DJ LeMahieu, who might have passed Ryan Flaherty in some respects in that LeMahieu may be ahead of him on the 2nd base depth chart. On the pitching side, Justin Bristow will have more time away from injury, and he’s a solid athlete. I wonder if he can push forward. Jeffry Antigua could also be a thought, along with Larry Suarez.
by toonsterwu on Oct 11, 2009 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one other name to ponder
as a possible breakout might be Michael Brenly, who has the receiving acumen, but whether or not his bat can take off is the question.
by toonsterwu on Oct 13, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brenly
I watched him play quite a bit in Peoria this year and I was shocked at how little power he had for as big a guy as he is. I think he’s got a pretty good arm and receiving skills, so maybe that will carry him until his bat improves.
by Swish54 on Oct 13, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flaherty
I think he’s flying under a lot of people’s radars. Callis said he was a future lefty bat off the bench in his BA MWL Top 20 chat. A lot of people seem to have written him off because he was not age-appropriate for the MWL and never got a mid-season promotion. The same has been said for Kyler Burke, who I also think could shoot up lists if he managed to continue his performance at higher levels. Frankly, I think Flaherty has a very good shot to be a very good 2B for the Cubs.
I think Flaherty ends up getting bumped to AA next season as a 2B and continues to produce like he did in Peoria. If he does that, he’ll get a lot more publicity and recognition.
by Outshined_One on Oct 18, 2009 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins (2)
Best Hitter : Ben Revere (still)
Best Pitcher : David Bromberg
Most Improved : Chris Parmelee
Disappointment : Deibinson Romero, Ty Robertson, Carlos Gutierrez
2010 Impact Candidate: Wilson Ramos, Danny Valencia
2010 Breakout Talent : Evan Bigley OF, Bradley Tippett P
A ball 1B Jonathan Waltenbury will be in a do or die season in 2010 IMO.
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 7, 2009 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angels
Best Hitter: Alexi Amarista, batting champ and 144 OPS+ in the MWL
Best Pitcher: Trevor Reckling
Most Improved: Pete Bourjos
Disappointment: Clay Fuller, Jordan Walden
2010 Breakout Talent: Hank Conger (trading one of the worst minor league parks for one of the best), Ryan Chaffee, and Jon Bachanov
by rghan on Oct 7, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals
Best Hitter: Allen Craig
Best Pitcher: Lance Lynn
Most Improved: Mark Hamilton, Blake Hawksworth
Disappointment: Niko Vasquez, Peter Kozma, Tyler Herron, Wagner Mateo
2010 Biggest MLB Impact: Jaime Garcia
2010 Breakout: Shelby Miller, Anthony Ferrara
by UncleBuck44 on Oct 7, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mets
Minor league batter of the year from 2009: Ike Davis
Minor league pitcher of the year from 2009: Jenrry Mejia
Most improved player from 2009: Jon Niese — that cutter
Biggest disappointment in 2009: Wilmer Flores
What minor leaguer do you think will make the biggest impact in the majors in 2010? Jon Niese
Who is your minor league breakout candidate for 2010? I want to say Alonzo Harris…
by METSMETSMETS on Oct 7, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Matz
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
by squid92 on Oct 7, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jays
Minor League Batter of the Year from 2009 – Brian Dopirak
Minor League Pitcher of the Year from 2009 – Tim Collins
Most Improved player from 2009 – Moises Sierra
Biggest Disappointment – J.P. Arencibia
What minor leaguer do you think will make the bigeest impact in the majors in 2010 – Travis Snider (if he still counts) if not then I will say Brian Dopirak
Who is your minor league breakout candidate for 2010 – Moises Sierra
by hrv1978 on Oct 8, 2009 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland Indians
Batter of the Year – Carlos Santana
Pitcher of the Year – Jeanmar Gomez
Most Improved – Paolo Espino
Biggest Disappointment – Wes Hodges
Biggest Major League Impact 2010 – Hector Rondon
Breakout Candidate – Clayton Cook
by RogerDorn on Oct 11, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good list
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by ravensfan3 on Oct 24, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Royals list
Batter of the year – David Lough
Minor league pitcher – Mike Montgomery
Most improved player – Jeff Bianchi
Biggest disappointment – Eric Hosmer
What minor leaguer do you think will make the biggest impact in the majors – Aaron Crow
Who is your minor league breakout candidate for 2010? – Brandon Sisk
by daveyork on Oct 11, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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