Top 20 Kansas City Royals Prospects for 2010
Top 20 Kansas City Royals Prospects for 2010.
All grades are EXTREMELY PRELIMINARY and subject to change. Don't get too worried about exact rankings at this point, especially once you get beyond the Top 10. Grade C+/C guys are pretty interchangeable depending on what you want to emphasize.
Feel free to critique the list, but use logic and reason rather than polemics to do so. The list and grades are based on a blending of present performance and long-term potential. Full reports on all these players can be found in the 2010 Baseball Prospect Book.
1) Mike Montgomery, LHP, Grade B+: Looks like the best combination of projection and performance in the organization.
2) Mike Moustakas, 3B, Grade B: Trying to decide between a Grade B+ and a straight B for this one. I'm willing to cut him some slack for one more season. He could do much better out of Wilmington.
3) Aaron Crow, RHP, Grade B: Want to see some actual pro data before going higher with the grade, but I like him a lot and he shouldn't need a lot of development time.
4) Tim Melville, RHP, Grade B: Needs to sharpen up his command a bit, but projects as a number two starter if everything comes together and he stays healthy.
5) Danny Duffy, LHP, Grade B: I like him a lot, too, although I don't think he has quite as much projection as Melville. Crow, Melville, and Duffy could rank 3-4-5 in any order.
6) Wil Myers, C, Grade B: Love the bat, not sure about the defense. Need more pro data before going higher with the grade.
7) Eric Hosmer, 1B, Grade B-: A difficult grade. Will the lasik surgery fix whatever was bothering him in '09? If so, could vault back to the top of the list.
8) Carlos Rosa, RHP, Grade B-: His numbers at Omaha are better than they look, and he has the arm strength to be a solid reliever.
9) David Lough, OF, Grade B-: Borderline C+. Good tools, started to put things together this year, but turns 24 in January and I wish he walked more.
10) John Lamb, LHP, Grade B-: Borderline C+. Has the natural ability to develop as Montgomery and Duffy have, but I'd like some higher level data.
11) Noel Arguelles, LHP, Grade C+: Live-armed Cuban defector signed in December. Hard to know exactly what they have here. He's not Aroldis Chapman but he could be very good.
12) Jordan Parraz, OF, Grade C+: Good tools, really exploded this year, but injury problems and age (now 25) limit his grade.
13) Jeff Bianchi, SS-2B, Grade C+: I wish he drew more walks, but you have to respect how he fought back from injuries.
14) Chris Dwyer, LHP, Grade C+: Has great stuff, but the results weren't always there in college and pro data set (while small) shows command problems.
15) Kila Ka'aihue, 1B, Grade C+: Couldn't repeat 2008 monster season, but high walk rate and moderate power are still there. I don't understand why he wasn't promoted in September. Born DH.
16) Johnny Giavotella, 2B, Grade C+: Hampered by unlucky BABIP early in the year, but finished strong. Breakout candidate for 2010 in the Texas League. Shaky defense is an issue.
17) Louis Coleman, RHP, Grade C+: LSU product looks like a really sharp reliever to me; could rise very quickly.
18) Tyler Sample, RHP, Grade C+: Another young high-ceiling arm. Command is a question.
19) Tim Smith, OF, Grade C+: Scouts don't like his tools and he's not a huge power guy, but he seems to hit .300 everywhere he goes.
20) Cole White, RHP, Grade C+: Sleeper relief arm from 2009 draft, could advance rapidly along with Coleman.
21) Blake Wood, RHP, Grade C: Terrific arm but command and injury problems hold him back. Interchangeable with most of the guys in the "other" category.
Others (All Grade C right now): Juan Abreu, RHP; Eric Basturto, RHP; Yowill Espinal, SS: Carlos Fortuna, RHP; Blaine Hardy, LHP; Keaton Hayenga, RHP; Chris "Disco" Hayes, RHP; Kelvin Herrera, RHP; Greg Holland, RHP; Dusty Hughes, LHP; Patrick Keating, RHP; Alex Llanos, OF; Chris Nicoll, RHP; Dusty Odenbach, RHP; Salvador Perez, C; Manuel Pina, C; Clint Robinson, 1B: Derrick Robinson, OF; Brandon Sisk, LHP; Nick Van Stratten, OF.
The Royals have a lot of extremely interesting pitching in the organization, with Montgomery, Melville, Crow, Duffy, Lamb, Dwyer, Sample, and Wood all having sufficient arm strength and/or command to be dominant pitchers, IF they stay healthy and develop along the expected path. They also have a lot of potentially useful relief arms, with Rosa ready to help next year, and several arms from the '09 class (Coleman most notably) who could move quickly.
Things are much different on the hitting side. Moustakas and Hosmer were big disappointments this year. Both of them are still young, and both of them had some possibly-extenuating circumstances. But the fact remains that both of them are corner players who didn't hit as well as expected and have a lot to prove in 2010. I cut Moustakas some slack on the grade because he did hit well in 2008, but graded Hosmer a bit more roughly because he hasn't done much at all in pro ball yet. Both could move up or down rather radically in 2010. Myers looks really interesting but we need to see more at higher levels. Lough and Parraz are both late-developing toolsy outfielders who may or may not sustain their progress. Bianchi and Giavotella in the middle infield also have question marks. . are they utility players or possible starters? We don't know yet. Kila looks blocked and probably needs a change of scenery.
Overall this is a system that is very thin at the upper levels, but has an intriguing group of potential impact talents lower in the organization. But I emphasize the word potential: there is a big group that has to turn projection into performance next year.
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The Royals aggressive draft philosophy is really starting to pay dividends, as they are really beginning to develop a nice collection of talent. That’s one thing Moore has gotten right.
I’m a bit surprised Bianchi didn’t get a B-, but I guess his past track record drags down his 2009 value a bit.
I was pretty disappointed in Kila this year, as I was really hoping for a better 2009 season out of him. I’m still hopeful that the truth lies somewhere between his 2008 and 2009 seasons, but I do fear that 2009 was the real Kila. Still, maybe he just stagnated from not getting promoted to the majors. Even though he’s a good fit for the Royals in light of the make-up of their roster and lower revenue status, I think he needs a trade to get a legitimate shot.
by Lark11 on Oct 30, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Kila
will get a legitimate shot in Spring Training as a 1st/DH. That is if Moore makes the easy decision to nontender Jacobs. I swear if he comes back I may be done as a Royals fan.
by gordonrules on Oct 30, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kila
I hope you’re right. I’m wondering why Kila isn’t playing winter ball somewhere. He didn’t exactly tear the cover off the ball after the All Star break. Maybe he’ll be better served by getting some rest and starting fresh in spring training..
by Lark11 on Oct 31, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can say that all you want
You can say that the “Royals aggressive draft philosophy is really starting to pay dividends” all you want, but the current management is not using it. The Royals, as bad as they were this season, did not play a single player without major league service time (at least not until September call ups…and maybe not even then.)
If you’re as bad as the Royals have been the past few years, why not let players have a shot. Who cares if you start their service time, if they can help you win 80 games (which the Royals have done once in the last 7 years) then bring them up.
Maybe I’m overreacting, but I don’t see the point of a great farm system if it never even turns into a mediocre major league team.
by stlfan on Oct 31, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a different issue
Sure, you can certainly make that argument, but that’s an entirely different issue. I was talking solely about their draft philosophy. I don’t agree with all of their draft picks or how they have extracted value from their prospects, but by being aggressive they have added significantly more value to the farm system.
In 2008, the Royals spent $11.1M on draft signing bonuses, which was more than everyone else, including the BoSox, who spent a “paltry” $10.5M. You can certainly quibble with who they have drafted. Personally, I still don’t understand Hosmer over Posey or Smoak, but the underlying draft philosophy is one that has increased the value in the organization.
The fact that Moore would rather waste money and ABs on Mike Jacobs instead of giving the job to Kila Ka’aihue, or throw massive dollars at Jose Guillien, etc., well that’s another story.
Still, you have give them credit for their aggressive drafting.
by Lark11 on Oct 31, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Que?
The aggressive drafts have only been from the past couple of years. It is pretty unreasonable to expect that those players should already be in the majors.
by aCone419 on Oct 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
I forget sometimes that Moore has only been in KC for a few years now.
by stlfan on Oct 31, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for 3 drafts if you believe he had nothing to do with Hochevar's draft.
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by 306008 on Nov 1, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wanted to find something to argue about :P
but couldn’t find much. i’d probably swap spots and grades on Rosa and Dwyer. i think Dwyer has a ton of upside as a starter with three very good pitches. also think it will look like a mistake to keep Herrera out of the top 20 by next year. there is reason to be skeptical because he pitched all of 5 innings this year, but i love his command.
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by doublestix on Oct 30, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really interested in Chris Dwyer...
and what he does in the future. Athletic lefties with good fastballs are always interesting, and his curveball can be nasty.
by SenorGato on Oct 31, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My Shadow Royals Top 20
1. Justin Smoak 1B
2. Josh Vitters 3B
3. Michael Taylor OF
4. Michael Montgomery LHP
5. Josh Bell 3B
6. Brad Lincoln RHP
7. Grant Green SS
8. Wil Myers C
9. Danny Valencia 3B
10. Shane Peterson OF
11. Tim Fedroff OF
12. Ryan Schimpf 2B
13. Jeff Manship RHP
14. TJ Steele OF
15. Ian Krol LHP
16. Mark Halberg IF
17. Khris Davis OF
18. Jacob Thompson RHP
19. Jason Christian IF
20. Tyler Kuhn UT
Others: Jeremy Hazelbaker OF; Jeremy Barnes SS; Nevin Griffith RHP; Greg Holland RHP; Andy Dirks OF; Gavin Brooks LHP; Luke Murton 1B
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by JM Barten on Oct 31, 2009 6:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hosmer ... a solid "B"
Great list … Hosmer statistically earned a “C+” but talent wise is “A/A-” player.
IMO, B- may be too low and thought a solid B would better reflect his sub par albeit rushed up a level (do not understand KC’s rationale) year.
I am predicting a return to the top of list with a strong ’10 campaign though not expecting his true power potential to be on display (due to his age).
Just my opinion.
by bryeic on Oct 31, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Royals screwed up their drafts
How much better would their future be…
top 10 picks 11 of the past 13 yrs
7 top 5 picks
Chose overall #3, 2, 1, 2 from 08-05, sorry but there should be no room for error when chosing that high
Lincecum instead of Hochevar
Braun/Bruce/Tulo/Zimmerman instead of Gordon
Bumgarner/Heyward insteadofMoustakas
Beckham/Smoak instead of Hosmer
With better drafting they may have been able to end their 24 yr playoff less streak and 6 above .500 teams over that time
by Asfan4ever723 on Oct 31, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You can't even fault most of those selections
There was huge questions on draft day about Lincecum’s durability, and even if you think small pitcher being less durable is a bunch of rubbish. His command in college was still not good and he didn’t have the pitch that makes him a Cy Young contender every year yet(his changeup, no telling if the changeup would have come along as a Royal). I wasn’t a fan of Hochevar because I don’t believe greed should be rewarded, but that’s another story.
Gordon was a consensus #1 or #2 prospect for a year or 2 there in the minors too. I don’t remember Braun/Bruce/Tulo/Zimmerman ever cracking the top 5
Most of the complains of the 2007 draft was that we didn’t take Wieters instead of Mous but I do agree with you on the 08 draft.
Hindsight is 20/20 however.
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by playingwithfire on Oct 31, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More realistically...
If their philosophy says to shell out for Hosmer one year, why doesn’t it say to shell out for Wieters or Porcello another year?
by aap212 on Nov 3, 2009 2:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree they've been a horrible 1st round draft team
but they are finding hidden or undervalued talent that comes to the forefront
better than a lot of teams….
(picking in the top 10- or 12 every year helps also.)
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hindsight is an amazing thing
you could go back and do this for quite a few teams.
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Oct 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
scratch that
EVERY team
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by playingwithfire on Oct 31, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm...
Hochevar was regarded as the better prospect in that draft. The only pitcher that was rated ahead of Hochevar if I remember correctly was Brad Lincoln and he hasn’t made the majors yet.
Gordon wnet exactly where he was supposed to go. The only one of the guys you mentioned who they would have been justified in taking over Gordon was Tulowitzki because he is a middle infielder.
Moustakas wasn’t the best pick, but Heyward and bumgarner would have been considered over drafts. Guys who I would have taken over Moustakas are Wieters, Vitters, and maybe LaPorta.
They were completely justified in taking Hosmer. Hosmer was considered to be the best high school bat in the draft and many people had him rated higher than both Smoak and Beckham. If it were me, I would have taken Brian Matusz, the guy who was regarded as the best pitcher in the draft.
by joegonzo on Oct 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on the Matusz talk.
That’s who I wanted.
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by 306008 on Nov 1, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is one of the worst comments I've ever read on an intelligent blog
All of this is hindsight. ALL of it.
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by 306008 on Nov 1, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kila belongs in the majors
Someone should try to trade for him.
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by Blicks on Oct 31, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also I want to point out
that they have made some bad trades….
Dan Gutierrez, Daniel Cortes, Derreck Saito
Leo Nunez , Relief arm on the Bo Sox….
they better be a little more selective in future trades IMO.
Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but we badly needed a good ss
and that’s what yuni offers…right?
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by playingwithfire on Oct 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trades
They’ve also made some good moves, and the jury is still out getting Pina/Smith in the one. Looking through that list you made, I’m pretty sure that none of those players are elite. The best, Cortes and Gutierrez, have plenty of question marks.
by killa on Oct 31, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Guit/Cortes/Saito trades haven't been proved bad or good yet.
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by 306008 on Nov 1, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where would Gutierrez have ranked on this list?
by LiamP on Oct 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gutierrez
I’m not sure yet. He’s got some “issues.”
by John Sickels on Oct 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers really like him though.
Maybe a change of scenery will help him get his act together.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 31, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gutierrez would have been between 8-12 in my book for Royals
His talent has played well but the off field problems sent him off to Texas. Same type of approach with Dan Cortes. The talent wasn’t worth the crap that went with it.
by daveyork on Oct 31, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has there been any speculation on Kila for 2010?
He would seem to be what KC is looking for in a DH – power potential, good OBP, and cheap. All the things that Mike Jacobs isn’t. Yet, KC doesn’t seem to interested in him. I would think that if he isn’t in KC’s plans then another team who values those qualities would be all over him. I’m thinking Orioles, A’s and Mariners as teams who could use 1B talent.
What would be Kila’s trade value assuming KC doesn’t want to keep/use him in 2010?
by daveyork on Nov 1, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the royals dont like OBP
it seems liike they dont care about it
by matthewmafa on Nov 1, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
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by Frederick0220 on Nov 2, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kila: Not that good
Was never that good. Had one really good year where he had a bunch of HRs because of his ballpark, because he was quite old for his league and because he was repeating the level for the 3rd time! He also had lots of HRs and only a handful of doubles – why is that? Ballpark and luck. A good amount of those HRs were going to turn back into doubles.
He has a skill set that is widely available and can be had for nothing. There are tons of guys who can do what Kila does who you can get for nothing every year. He is the definition of replacement level. You can go sign an Eric Hinske or a Matt Stairs or a Jeff Bailey or a Kevin Millar or a Dmitri Young or a Daryle Ward or a Jason Giambi or an Aubrey Huff or a Mike Sweeney or a whoever for the minimum. Kila can’t play defense anywhere, can’t run the bases well, is a patient hitter and has a little pop (but nothing like what people seem to think around here). He’s just not that good. Very marginal major leaguer.
Was he a better option than trading a young, cheap live arm for Mike Jacobs? Absofrigginlutely. No one should confuse Kila with any kind of asset, though. He is just not that good a baseball player. Once again, there are dozens of guys lined up every winter looking for spring training invites who can do exactly what Kila does. Im not even exaggerating a little. The only things that really recommend Kila is that he’s already under team control, can’t complain about his role and has options so you can keep him on a shuttle to and from Omaha as team needs dictate.
by alskor on Nov 2, 2009 12:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
My point being
He’s ok… and he does some things well that I like. I like his approach at the plate a good deal… but let’s be realistic… its not some great crying shame the guy didn’t get a chance.
by alskor on Nov 2, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its not like hes a brandon wood or anything/...
now its a shame he doesnt get a chance..
by matthewmafa on Nov 2, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hosmer/Bianchi
John – agree with the list mostly. A couple things:
If you’re going to give Moustakas the benefit of the doubt, then I would do the same with Hosmer. I think a “B” grade is more suitable.
Bianchi seems like he could be an average regular or strong utility type. I’d move him to “B-”.
by MightyMoose on Nov 2, 2009 9:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Louis Coleman
Good call, John. He was exceptional at LSU and I think you’re right on the money that he’s likely to rise quickly through the system and be an excellent reliever. I remember being peeved that the Reds hadn’t thought about popping him when the Royals took him in the 5th. As long as you’re taking pitchability college arms (Leake) why not go all in?
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