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by cwhitman412 on Oct 3, 2009 6:46 PM EDT

Another really weird system. No real stand out players, and I'm really curious what people think. To be honest I could barely think of anyone off the top of my head. My list is probably way off, and any suggestions would be great. This is mostly based off my statistical analysis and past scouting reports. 130 AB/50 IP

1. Zach Stewart

2. Chad Jenkins

3. Moises Sierra

4. Carlos Perez

5. Henderson Alvarez

Yohermyn Chavez, Eric Thames, Pastornicky, Dopirak, Marisnick, and Collins are some other names.

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What a weak system now.....

top 5

1. Zachary Stewart (what the hell were the Reds thinking? )
2. Chad Jenkins
3. Moises Sierra
4. Eric Thames ( I like blood-related prospects)
5. Brad Emaus

H.M. Carlos Perez, Josh Reinecke

what happened to the corner-infield prospect?….name escapes me..

Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 3, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions

Kevin Ahrens?

It looks like he may be holding the wrong end of the bat.

by PissedMick on Oct 3, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Hitting coach must have missed that one...

not surprising he was fired then.

by ayjackson on Oct 4, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions

Pass

by gogotabata on Oct 3, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions

If they would have signed a few more draft picks like...

Barret and Paxton this would be a much stronger farm system.

by joegonzo on Oct 3, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions

Paxton

Ugh. My least favorite non-signing of the draft. I picked him in the draft portion of one of my leagues. I expected him to sign, dominate SS or A ball, then be #1 prospect for the Jays.

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by cwhitman412 on Oct 3, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Failing to sign Paxton and Eliopoulos were incredible failures

Whoever was reluctant to go over slot, the F.O. or G.M., really failed the team. Having two top CANADIAN prospects would of been great just from a PR perspective, something the Jays really need right now in terms of attendence and in the media. Also, missing out on Barret really destroyed a potentially impressive draft.

by tdot mariner fan on Oct 4, 2009 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions

Weak system

1. Zach Stewart
2. Chad Jenkins
3. Moises Sierra
4. Eric Thames
5. Josh Roenicke

Hard for me to think w/o looking system by system, but this might be very close to the bottom. W/o the mindless Rolen trade (from the Reds’ prespective), this system would be nothing. Move everyone up one and 4 and 5 would be Emaus and Perez.

by sjkqw on Oct 3, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions

1. Zach Stewart
2. Chad Jenkins
3. Henderson Alvarez
4. Yohermyn Chavez
5. Moises Sierra

I’m quite interested in tracking Carlos Perez, but I don’t think he’s far enough along yet to be considered top 5 in the system.

by jibs on Oct 3, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions

holy hell this is weak

1. jenkins
2. stewert
3. thames
4. sierra
5. alverez

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Oct 3, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions

It's weak, but....

in fairness to the Jays, they did graduate a lot of talent this year- Travis Snider, Ricky Romero, Mark Rzepckynski, Brad Mills, Brett Cecil, and Scott Richmond. So while their system is weak right now, they do have a good amount of young talent.

by Birdfan01 on Oct 3, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions

Brad Mills

didn’t pitch enough to graduate, did he??

by ayjackson on Oct 4, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions

That Is True

by cwhitman412 on Oct 4, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions

David Cooper still belongs in his conversation as well. Yes, he had an uninspiring first full pro season but he started out at AA, how many other 2008 draftees started out that high? Yeah, it worked for a few (Beckham, Smoak, Wallace), but most of the college guys (Alvarez, Matusz, Posey, Alonso, Davis, Weeks, Castro) started at A+, succeeded there and THEN they moved up.

Cooper instead started right at AA, struggled, then started to show improvements (was solid, yet unspectacular, from June onward). He was pushed too fast, I think there is no question about it, but still minorleaguesplits’ adjusted #’s for him would be an OPS of 806 on the season anyway, which is not THAT awful everything considered.

I’d have Cooper 5th at the lowest, in part b/c it’s too early to write him off and in part b/c I’m just not that high on guys like Chavez/Sierra, but I hope I’m wrong about them.

by jayjay on Oct 4, 2009 2:43 AM EDT reply actions

+1

ahh yes, David Cooper was whom I was referring too above.

I believe he is certainly a top 10 ’spect in the Jays system.

Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Oct 4, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions

I really like Jenkins profile even though I am conservative with recent draftees

1.Jenkins
2.Stewart
3.Alvarez
4.Pastornicky
5.Chavez

Sierra is very intersting, but I am skeptical of his numbers surviving AA very well. I love Pastornicky in that he is very polished for a player his age. I have plenty of faith in him and Tolisano doing well but I want to see them preform at AA before I see their value jump.

For sleeper, Danny Farquar and Darin Mastroainni are two interesting subjects now that Collins has become a know quantity. Farquar has the numbers and stuff of a potential relief ace but is lacking the command for now. Mastroainni was an unheralded draftee in the 16th round in 2007. However, this year he has shown off excellent speed and a great ability to get on base at A+ (.425) and in AA (.370) this year.

The Jays really need to hope some of their large 2007 prep and college draft class works out. There are plenty of young players with excellent potential but raw skills in their low minors; Fuenamayor, Antonio Jimenez, Kenny Wilson, Ahrens, Tolisano, Justin Jackson, Pastornicky, Sierra, Chavez, McDade, Marcus Brisker, John Talley.

by tdot mariner fan on Oct 4, 2009 3:13 AM EDT reply actions