Jarrod Parker to have TJS

by aCone419 on Oct 22, 2009 10:14 PM EDT Comment 19 comments

Sucks. Though not entirely unexpected.

Diamondbacks pitching prospect Jarrod Parker is going to have Tommy John surgery, after going down in the middle of the season with elbow trouble, according to his agent.

Arizona shut down the righthander, their top prospect, with elbow tightness in late July when he was pitching at Double-A Mobile, and hoped rest and rehab would fix the problem. During instructional league he played catch at 120 feet, and he was scheduled to resume throwing off a mound in January,

But on Thursday, his agent Larry Reynolds wrote on his Twitter feed: "Dbacks #1 prospect Jarrod Parker to visit Dr. James Andrews on Tue w/ intent of having Tommy John surgery on 10/28".

Parker’s 2010 season likely would have been lost even if he had the surgery during the summer, but now he’ll certainly miss the ‘10 season.

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damn

not what i wanted to see as a parker owner in my dynasty league…

what do we think for his ETA now??? 2012?

by PHGold09 on Oct 22, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well..

that’s why you sort of hold your breath with pitching prospects most of the time.

by Forza Hudd on Oct 23, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's one season lost.

Not a big deal — he’ll return strong in 2011, and might get decent playing time in the majors.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 23, 2009 1:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

doesnt it take at least a full years recovery...

plus time to regain the command that he never really had in the first place

i mean… i could see him cmoing up in sept 2011 and getting a taste if his 2011 minor league season goes swimmingly. but theres gonna be no need to rush him (unless they’re in contention)

i just dont see him getting significant time before 2012

by PHGold09 on Oct 23, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, TJ isn't the slam dunk easy recovery many claim it to be.

A lot of guys come back as good or better than before, but there are plenty who don’t as well. The most recent one I’m heartbroken over is Francisco Liriano. I heard a lot of “don’t worry about the surgery, he’ll come back even better!” about ’Cisco, but early results have not been encouraging.

by PissedMick on Oct 23, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It isn't a slam dunk

but I am confident Parker will be fine. Liriano came back overweight. That isn’t the best thing a pitcher could do to come back from TJ.
Considering he was out of shape, I have a feeling he didn’t do all the arm rehab he should have and that could have led to coming back and not being the player he was before. I think Parker is a hard worker and will do what it takes to get back to the top of his game.

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by garrioch13 on Oct 24, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it isnt time to write off liriano yet

let s see how he does next year before we jump ship

by jarjets89 on Oct 24, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I cant speak to that

but I will say that Liriano’s mechanics were always scary.

by alskor on Oct 24, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not a big deal?

I think if you ask Jarrod Parker he would tell you that it is a huge deal….

Chances are that he probably comes back fine, but there is a chance, albeit a small one, that he never becomes the pitcher he was….

Jesse Foppert and Lirano come to mind off the top of my head…

by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 24, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oops

So, everything I just said has already been said by other posters…

Sorry, for my waste of space post…lol….

by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 24, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

One season is everything when you're a prospect.

Considering he’ll lose a full year of development and fixing up in his game, since that’s what the minors are for.

If he comes back the same way he was before, then great — We’d have only lost one year of him. Not a huge deal if he makes it to the show and becomes fairly dominant.

However, there is reason to raise concern. There is a chance he’ll never be the same.

Though I believe he’ll come back the same way he was before, I’m still concerned that he might get injured again. You don’t suffer a major injury and be squeaky clean for the rest of your career. He’s still young — could make adjustments to keep his arm fresh. I really hope he’s going to be alright.

by CaptainCanuck on Oct 26, 2009 4:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You never know, he could end up like numerous other top prospects that end up not coming back the same (think former top prospect Jesse Foppert).

by Mistermidgetman on Oct 23, 2009 2:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

not surprised

by daveh33 on Oct 23, 2009 8:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Neither am I

The only surprising thing is that it took Arizona so damn long for him to have surgery.

by jar75 on Oct 23, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

I think they were trying conservative treatment. Hindsight’s 20/20, but you’re right, it’s delayed him picking up a baseball at all next year (at least during the season).

by MightyMoose on Oct 23, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Josh johnson

Hopefully he goes to the doctor that performed Josh Johnson’s elbow surgery and prescribed his rehab plan, because that dude came back better than before…and he was good before.

by loop on Oct 25, 2009 2:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah

he gained like 3 mph on his fastball amazingly… its like he took steroids

by matthewmafa on Oct 25, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he does

by Bravesin07 on Oct 25, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

common myth

you never “gain” mph on your fastball. You regain velocity that you lost. You might see a spike because you have improved your mechanics or strengthened your core and/or lower body after initially injuring yourself, but the surgery itself does not add to a person’s FB.

Anything that an athlete does puts wear and tear on their body and slowly diminishes their skills. The problem is pitching can do that a lot quicker than most activities. A person will always have a mythical ’max" based upon their body type, genetics, and internal construction of their joints and connective tissue. Most never reach that max because the act of pitching itself damages their ability to throw and slowly brings there average velocity down as they learn how to pitch. By having TJ after learning the most effective way to use their own body to maximize their abilities, players see a spike in velocity and equate it to the surgery and not to the fact that their arm is finally healthy combined with now knowing how to maximize their abilities.

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by laxtonto on Oct 26, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs