Community Prospect List - Dodgers

by cwhitman412 on Oct 16, 2009 10:13 PM EDT Comment 32 comments

Another interesting system. Lots of guys you could put in. 130 AB, 50 IP.

1. Withrow

2. Ethan Martin

4. Lindblom

5. Gordon

I had lots of difficulty with this list. Withrow is a clear #1 to me, and Martin is looking good other than control. He will get that in time. Robinson is a toolsy outfielder who put it together this year, and all around looks great. 4/5 are the two I had issues with. Lindblom looks really good so far, and originally I had Aaron Miller at 5. I'm not a fan of Gordon or Lambo. Gordon doesn't seem like anything special to me. His stats weren't great other than speed, which additionally helps with average. My question is, if you don't think Gillies is top 20 in Mariners, how is Gordon a top prospect here? Gillies has performed as well in a higher level.

Other names to consider are Delmonico, Eovaldi (who I also like), and Paul.

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1. Chris Withrow
2. Dee Gordon
3. Ethan Martin
4. Scott Elbert (I’d like to see him tried as a starter in the majors)
5. Garrett Gould

6. Aaron Miller
7. Trayvon Robinson
8. Andrew Lambo
9. Josh Lindblom
10. Ivan DeJesus

by jar75 on Oct 16, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice system

1) Withhrow
2) Martin
3) Gordon
4) Lambo
5) Elbert
6) Gould
7) DeJesus
8) Miller
9) Lindblom
10) Robinson

3-10 was extremely difficult for me.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 16, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

agreed on the top 5

not sure how i’d rank 6-10

by daveh33 on Oct 17, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

gilles and gordon comparison

seems odd, tbh. positional advantage for gordon really makes a huge difference when judging their prospect status, imo.

In general, I find the system to be a bit overhyped at the top. I think Gordon and Withrow are both a bit overhyped. Overall, decent depth for the system, and I think they’ll bounce back in a year or two. I’ll go

1. Chris Withrow – I like him, but I think he’s a tad overhyped right now. By next year, he may well meet that hype.

2. Ethan Martin – I was tempted to put him 1, as I think he has a higher ceiling. I wouldn’t be surprised if Martin passes Withrow in perception/stature next season.

3. Dee Gordon – I think he’s a tad overhyped as well, but he’s an intriguing shortstop prospect.

4. Ivan DeJesus – I don’t like the other guys enough to make the move yet, and he was a very intriguing shortstop prospect last year.

5. Aaron Miller – Has Lambo fallen this far? Probably not, but I really liked Miller coming out and I’ll give him the nod.

by toonsterwu on Oct 16, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

CF Isn't That Far Off

From SS.

It was more of the skill set. Gillies probably has more potential in the bat due to his size.

And I really don’t know how Withrow is overrated. If anything he was underrated. he missed basically two years due to injuries, and was only 20 in A+ ball. He was unlucky as well.

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by cwhitman412 on Oct 17, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it isn't that far off

but i think, for me, it’s enough to say, okay, that type of offense on a solid shortstop prospect – very intriguing. On a CF, interesting.

That said, as noted, I do think Gordon is a bit overhyped.

As for Withrow, I didn’t say he was overrated. I rated him first in this. I think he’s getting a tad overhyped a bit, though. I understand the intrigue and certainly numbers aren’t everything for minor leaguers. I definitely get the raw upside. I’m not saying he doesn’t have the ability – I’m just saying I think he has a ways to go. His neutralized FIP at IE this year was in the 4.7’s and his neutralized FIP’s in Chatt was in the 4.5’s (I’m too lazy to calculate xFIP’s right now and don’t know any site that carries them off the top for minor leaguers, though it’s late and Friday.) A 10.84 K rate and 4.64 BB rate in IE is nice … but nothing that really makes me go wow just yet, and his K/BB rates in Chatt don’t make me go wow just yet either

Again, not saying he doesn’t have ability, or that he won’t reach the potential. Just saying that I think the hype is outpacing the ability a bit right now, but that’s me.

by toonsterwu on Oct 17, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

its his first year pitching

plus about his walk rate… he has great control vs RHB but he cant throw a strike to LHB to save his life,

by matthewmafa on Oct 17, 2009 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

who overhyped Withrow??

i dont see any of these people talking about him…

same with ethan martin…

gordon i agree is wayyyy too overhyped tho

by matthewmafa on Oct 17, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Withrow and Martin

be slinging 97 mph country gas heataz with plus-plus benderz, yo.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 17, 2009 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

withrow gets talked up here

so maybe my perception of hype is tinted by what is being discussed here.

by toonsterwu on Oct 17, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, it's a little nuts

He’s an interesting prospect with upside, guy with good raw stuff who got promoted aggressively and did okay in a small sample size. But he’s still a 20 year old with iffy command and without many innings to his name. There’s really no harm in being somewhat conservative on this one.

by mrkupe on Oct 17, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, i think it's getting to the point

where he’s so underrated that he’s beginning to be overrated.

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by thecoolest on Oct 17, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

1. Gordon
2. Withrow
3. Martin
4. Lambo
5. Elbert

by gogotabata on Oct 17, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

by Birdfan01 on Oct 18, 2009 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mine

Withrow
Martin
Gordon
Lindblom
Elbert

6-10 (no particular order): Lambo, Delmonico, DeJesus, Robinson, Paul, Gould, Miller

Haven’t really settled my 4-10. Its all very varied and information is still incoming, especially on aaron miller.

by thudean on Oct 17, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

  1. Gordon
  2. Martin
  3. Lindblom
  4. T.Robinson
5. Lambo

Who would you rather have Cubs SS prospect Hak-Ju Lee or Dodgers SS Dee Gordon? and why?

by NYSOX on Oct 17, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No WIthrow?

by cwhitman412 on Oct 17, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OOOPS

Thanks for catching me…Please put Martin at # 2 and drop Lambo off

by NYSOX on Oct 17, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Give me the almighty Hak-Ju

He’s a better hitter, while being 2.5 years younger.

I think both guys are quality SS, who profile to stay there long-term.

Granted, Gordon has such limited experience playing the game, but I also like Hak-Ju’s power potential over that of Gordon.

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by Frederick0220 on Oct 17, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lee has

more potential to be a more well-rounded offensive player. Also, the esteemed AzPhil has also called Lee the fastest person in the Cubs system (which is rather stunning, as the Cubs have the insanely fast Tony Campana). Short of it is, I think Lee can potentially do what Gordon can do (be an excellent top of the order hitter), and he can potentially do more.

That said, with Castro ahead of Lee, Lee may have to move to another spot, perhaps CF.

by toonsterwu on Oct 17, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd go...

Withrow
Martin
gordon
Lambo
Miller

Also, I would rather have Hak-Ju Lee. Derek Jeter comps go a long way towards my decision.

by joegonzo on Oct 17, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

1.Chris Withrow
2.Ethan Martin
3.Aaron Miller
4.Dee Gordon
5.Andrew Lambo
6.Trayvon Robinson
7.Scott Elbert
8.Ivan Dejesus
9.Josh Lindblom
10.Nate Eovaldi
11.Garrett Gould
12. Jerry Sands
13. Kyle Russell
14.Tony Delmonico
15. Allen Webster

by matthewmafa on Oct 17, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Anyone think Kyle Russell...

could turn into a Ryan Ludwick type player? I like him a lot, but didn’t want to include him in my top 5.

by joegonzo on Oct 17, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he has to cut down on the K's one way or another

i mean, he struck out a reynolds-esque pace as a 23-yo in low A. there’s some things to like with him, but…seems like a big time long shot to me.

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by doublestix on Oct 17, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

next year

will determine his future when he goes to AA

its all or nothing for him…

by matthewmafa on Oct 17, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

1. Gordon
2. Withrow
3. Martin
4. Elbert
5. Lambo

by jarjets89 on Oct 17, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

1. Ethan Martin
2. Chris Winthrow
3. Scott Elbert
4. Dee Gordon
5. Andrew Lambo

keeping an eye on aaon miller and garrett gould

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by tj.hendricks on Oct 18, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mine

1. Dee Gordon
2. Andrew Lambo
3. Chris Withrow
4. Ethan Martin
5. Trayvon Robinson

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by WayneCampbell08 on Oct 18, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No mention of Scott Van Slyke? I only put his name out there because there are a lot of Top 10s and 15s. Obviously not Top 5 material at this point. Is he being overlooked here? Or, Is the Dodgers system simply that deep?

by StickRat on Oct 18, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs