Rank these pitching prospects...

by alskor on Jan 22, 2009 10:04 PM EST Comment 12 comments

Curious to see what the community thinks... they are all "B" prospects according to John.

David Huff, CLE

Tim Melville, KC

Mike Montgomery, KC

Michael Pineda, SEA

Trevor Reckling, LAA

Hector Rondon, CLE

Junichi Tazawa, BOS

How would you rank these prospects? Why?

If you could, would you rank any of the players below above the former list? If so, why? John has these guys as "B-'s." How would you rank these pitching prospects?

Nick Barnese, TB

Zach Britton, BAL

Shooter Hunt, MIN

Brett Hunter, OAK

Vin Mazzaro, OAK

Brad Mills, TOR

Matt Moore, TB

Martin Perez, TEX

Bill Smith, LAA

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i would

switch everyone except bill smith and zach britton up to b

and put every b down to b- except melville and montgomery

by dustinvandeman on Jan 22, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Those are John's grades, not mine

just to be clear.

He moved Huff up late, and I dont particularly agree with that… but this wasnt meant as a criticism of John’s grades, by any means. Im just having a hard time separating these guys.

by alskor on Jan 22, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Top 2 are easy

Matt Moore definitely at the top of this list. Tazawa second.

by mrkupe on Jan 23, 2009 2:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I think Tazawa

is generally overrated. From most things I read he was viewed as a late first/supplemental talent. I’d take Barnese, Moore, and Perez over him.

by Birdfan01 on Jan 24, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think Tazawa is generally overrated. From most things I read he was viewed as a late first/supplemental talent.

Is that your only reason for thinking Tazawa is overrated? Being a late first/supplemental pick is a really good thing. Nick Barnese was a 3rd round pick. He went about 50 picks past where a Tazawa talent would go. Matt Moore? 8th round! Perez was an IFA, but I dont think people were claiming he would have been drafted anywhere near as high as Tazawa would have(in large part because of age/lack of refinement). Now, they all have more of a track record than Tazawa so if that could be a legit reason… or I could buy “stuff”(though by all accounts that shouldnt be a reason – Tazawa has plus or plus plus command and at least two MLB quality pitches)… but If him being rated equivalent to a late first/supplemental pick was your only reason for thinking Tazawa was overrated it seems like a poor reason.

by alskor on Jan 24, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I would say I think I like Perez as much

but then I thought Perez deserved a full “B” anyway…

by alskor on Jan 24, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Tazawa

I have heard he doesn’t have much better than a good number 3 starter. There are others listed above that have way more potential than that.

by Hunt3r24 on Jan 24, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Meant

better than good number 3 starter potential

by Hunt3r24 on Jan 24, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Move up Brad Mills

He gets little respect for the impressive numbers he’s put up.

by DJ 15 on Jan 23, 2009 4:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

eh

I don’t particularly like the B list. I think I’d rank it

Rondon, Montgomery, Tazawa, Reckling, Huff, Pineda, Melville

can’t give great reasoning – have Melville last more because I want to see something first, Pineda’s scouting report sounds iffier than his rep, Huff feels like a mid-end of the rotation lefty to me, but honestly, flip the list, and I’m good.

but I’d take Barnese, Moore, Perez over all those guys personally

by toonsterwu on Jan 23, 2009 6:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Disregarding grades...

I would say:

Matt Moore, TB
Martin Perez, TEX
Nick Barnese, TB
Tim Melville, KC
Mike Montgomery, KC
Michael Pineda, SEA
Junichi Tazawa, BOS
Shooter Hunt, MIN
Hector Rondon, CLE
Trevor Reckling, LAA
Vin Mazzaro, OAK
David Huff, CLE
Brad Mills, TOR
(slight gap for me here)
Brett Hunter, OAK
Zach Britton, BAL
Bill Smith, LAA

by Hunt3r24 on Jan 23, 2009 1:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Actually...

Completely misread Bill Smith. I’m pretty sure he goes by Will Smith. He’s a very nice a sleeper for the Angels. I would probably move him up to the “1st tier” in front of Huff.

by Hunt3r24 on Jan 23, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs