Revaluing a Keeper League: Suggestions?

by wmdeeee on Jan 14, 2009 12:37 AM EST Comment 7 comments

I'm in a 12 team, 30 man keeper league in which we keep 15 players each season. The first two seasons we used a snake draft, and a keeper system that moved players up the rungs in the draft in accordance with their previous draft position---

Players drafted the year prior in rounds 1 – 6 and kept would move up ONE round in the following draft.
Players drafted the year prior in rounds 7 – 12 and kept would move up TWO rounds in the following draft.
Players drafted the year prior in rounds 13 - 18 and kept would move up THREE rounds in the following draft.
Players drafted the year prior in rounds 19 - 24 and kept would move up FOUR rounds in the following draft.
Players drafted the year prior in rounds 25 - 30 and kept would move up FIVE rounds in the following draft.

Free Agent pickups that are kept have a 29th round value attached to them in the redraft."

anyway, there has been a lot of discussion of revaluing the keeper value to a dollar amount so that we can switch the league to an auction format while keeping the continuity of our previous draft choices and roster moves under the old format. the question is: "what would be the easiest and / or best way to go about this change?"

your advice would be appreciated!

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An auction is a lot different (and better IMO) than a snake draft. Because it forces supply and demand on to the league, I suggest setting the keeper values a little higher in order to encourage teams to throw players back into the draft pool and establish the players market values. This would also provide the league with realistic expectations of draft values in the following year.

Rd 1-2 $40
Rd 3-6 $30
Rd 7-12 $20
Rd 13+$15

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by faketeams on Jan 14, 2009 7:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

re: suggestion

yeah, i agree that auction might be better, which is why we are contemplating the switch. but those values that you put out there don’t really maintain the continuity of the league, which is important to protect.

also, what total auction payroll should be available for 12 teams of 30 players each?

by wmdeeee on Jan 14, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The continuity will be hard to maintain given the very different formats. A snake draft gives each team a very good player in every round without any concern for budgets. An auction completely blows up that last clause.

FWIW, here is an article from Fantasy Ball Junkie dealing with the same question.

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by faketeams on Jan 14, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

$260

That would be almost identical to my league of 12 teams with 33 players. Keepers increase;
$5, $5, $7, $10, $10…etc.

We also allow redshirts. For players drafted (ie no waiver pickups), on a roster all year, and didn’t appear in a lineup all year, their contract and salary remain the same next year. That really helps out in giving the prospects value.

Personally, I would just throw everybody back and start from scratch.

by rwperu34 on Jan 14, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

other ideas

Since you want to keep many of the players you have, I’d suggest keeping costs similar to what Faketeams suggested and just have a fairly high payroll. If you had it at $500, you’d be able to keep 15 players for around $20 each and have $200 for your remaining 20 players, which should be plenty, considering most of the superstars would already be taken.

An additional item to consider is yearly inflation. Since you already do this somewhat with the increase in draft picks to keep someone, you might consider having prices go up as players are retained from year to year. In my league to keep a player, you must pay 20% more than what they cost last year, with a minimum amount. This way, in our league, most players, if acquired cheaply originally, are able to be kept for 5-6 years, but as time goes on, their price becomes more in keeping with their peers, and eventually they’re back on the open market.

by journeymen on Jan 14, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Alternative suggestion...

Use real major league salaries. I’m in a keeper league that uses actual major league salaries (We use Cot’s as are league resource). Each year the salary cap is established by taking the total salary of all teams in the American League (we do AL only), and dividing by the total number of teams.

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