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Biggest head-scratcher in your teams minor league system?

Who can you just not figure out? Who do you have no idea what their future holds?

 

Definitely Anthony Swarzak.

 

He went from a border-line elite prospect in 2007, to getting crushed at AA this year.

Since his promotion to AAA in July, he's dramatically improved. His BA has down more then .050 since his "promotion". His H/IP is good. As is his HR/9IP ratio.

But his K/9 ratio has dropped significantly, down to just 5.20 per 9 innings.

Anyone know what's the deal?

 

 

 

 

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Kila Kaaihue of course

Is this spike in performance for real? What the heck happened in 2006? I have no idea whether he’ll become an All-Star, a solid regular, or a career AAAA player.

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by RoyalsRetro on Sep 4, 2008 1:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Best first baseman ever

In the non-grit division.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Sep 4, 2008 6:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Brandon Erbe

After dominating the low minors in 2005 and 2006, he ran into a wall last year in A+ ball.

He repeated A+ this year and dramatically improved his K and BB rate, but he was also very inconsistent and allowed too many homers.

He’s still only 20 and will start next year at AA. With his plus fastball and developing secondary offereings, Erbe is still a boom-or-bust prospect at this point.

by dkdc on Sep 4, 2008 2:01 PM EDT   0 recs

Tanner Scheppers & Gaby Hernandez

In hindsight, that looks like quite an overdraft

Not sure what to expect from Hernandez. It seems like his numbers have regressed a bit. I have always like him, but scouts are not quite as high. So, who really knows?

by count sutton on Sep 4, 2008 2:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Juan Francisco

So much power its ridiculous, but he swings at way too much which means he doesn’t walk. Will his power lead to pitchers pitching around him or will his willingness to swing at anything close lead to pitchers exploiting his aggressiveness?

http://www.redsminorleagues.com and http://www.RedsPitchFX.com

by dougdirt on Sep 4, 2008 2:24 PM EDT   0 recs

For the Tigers

Its gotta be Brent Clevlen. Talk about erratic performance.

by SBcaptain2 on Sep 4, 2008 3:04 PM EDT   0 recs

+1

He’s got everything it takes, he’s just so erratic… maybe he’ll end up in a situation similar to Ryan Ludwick a few years from now…

by demondeaconsbaseball on Sep 4, 2008 5:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yankees

I’d say Wilkins De La Rosa. Converted OF who had a very big season as a power lefty this year. He doesn’t have a big window, but he has a shot.

Other guy would be Chris Garcia, who’s battled injuries but has a big ceiling.

by number_twentyone on Sep 4, 2008 3:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Chuck Lofgren

A left-hander with mid-90’s fastball with a good change who has just been getting lit up this year. There are some rumours of personal issues (family issues) which may have affected his play but he looks pretty terrible at the moment. He’s still really young and he’s looked a bit better during a stint in the bullpen but his command at this point is just troubling.

by ATLTribefan on Sep 4, 2008 3:52 PM EDT   0 recs

+1

You beat me to this one

"God, I'm from Cleveland. When is it going to be our time?"

by BStal11 on Sep 4, 2008 4:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+2

You really have to wonder what happened to Lofgren? I think a good runnerup is Matt Whitney and his missing power. Looks like his power is limited to fastballs.

by sdtribefan on Sep 4, 2008 5:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+3

Lofgren was why I clicked on this thread in the first place.

by siddfynch on Sep 5, 2008 11:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Eric Campbell

If consistency were steak, he’d be a vegan.

by aCone419 on Sep 4, 2008 4:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Which Eric Campbell?

If it’s the one for the Braves he was diagnosed with clinical depression and he’s now on medication for it and he’s been fine this year.

by Jay212033 on Sep 4, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Matt Antonelli

His drop in production was frightening at AAA.

"If I wasn't Bob Dylan, I'd probably think that Bob Dylan has a lot of answers myself." - Bob Dylan

by JollyWaffle on Sep 4, 2008 5:26 PM EDT   0 recs

+1

What exactly happened this year? I can’t remember a regression this bad.

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift

by King Billy Royal on Sep 4, 2008 5:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

He’s definitely the first guy that leaps to mind for any team.

by aap212 on Sep 4, 2008 5:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I suspect that he's either hiding an injury

or having some sort of personal issues. It’s one thing to struggle at the next level, but it’s pretty insane how awful he’s been. I have a hard time believing it’s that he’s just not talented enough to play higher than AA. I don’t have proof that something else is going on, but it just seems to make sense.

by thejd44 on Sep 5, 2008 12:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Brignac

Scouts really seem to be divided on this guy. Hits a whack load of doubles but will the average come back around?

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift

by King Billy Royal on Sep 4, 2008 5:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Desmond Jennings

Can he stay healthy long enough to give us a better read?

"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift

by King Billy Royal on Sep 4, 2008 5:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Fernando Martinez

He gets hurt so much, goes through streaks where he can’t hit anything, and then has streaks where he absolutely smashes the ball like the last week of the season and you wonder which is the real F-Mart and can he stay healthy.

by Pelferized on Sep 4, 2008 5:48 PM EDT   0 recs

Wilmer Flores

come on.. 16/17 year old putting up those numbers, with that kind of build.. I mean, the hype train just keeps on rolling

by Duece on Sep 4, 2008 6:31 PM EDT   0 recs

Hmmm....

Don’t really see what relevance that has to this discussion.

by The Big Hurt on Sep 5, 2008 9:34 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, not much to figure out there; I might say Carp

I don’t really see FMart in this either. Maybe you can have some doubts from the injuries, but there’s nothing that puzzling or uncommon for a guy to struggle with a few minor injuries, or to be less than dominating in AA at 19. Martinez looks like a typical good prospect with typical questions, but reasonably consistent performance for a guy his age.

The Mets guy I think of in this discussion might be Mike Carp. That’s a guy who is old enough you should expect him to be performing some in AA by now (though still only 22), with power, and he really has been Jeckle and Hyde. Some stretches where he looks like he’s going to be a masher, then the power takes a vacation for a month, and you read that scouts are prety lukewarm on him. With a .299/.403/.471 line this year, 88K/79BB, he looks like he could have a chance to take the next step and maybe even be elite, but it wouldn’t be a total shocker if he were a bust either.

Bobby Parnel is a bit of a head scratcher at times, but the story there, good arm, poor command of secondary stuff, is prettty comon as well.

Ike Davis is a good candidate here, given how highly he was drafted and how high some are on him, with the poor numbers he’s put up in his debut.

And Ruben Tejada is one who is a bit of a head scratcher for me, just because he doesn’t seem to have a real high ceiling to me at this point, but he’s still only 18 and it very hard to say yet how much he will continue to develop. His skills are definately advanced for his age, does a great job of geting the bat on the ball, and he should stick at SS, so he does still have a chance to be a very good prospect. I need to see another year there before having much confidence in projecting his ceiling.

by acerimusdux on Sep 5, 2008 12:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Josh Donaldson

when he was still with the Cubs, of course.

I just didn’t know what was wrong, I don’t know if it was a confidence problem, or if it was some sort of injury that no one knew about. But he’s been ripping it up with the A’s, so… well, that just makes me even more confused.

Current Cubs farmhand that makes you wonder the most would probably be Tony Thomas. He might be more of an anomaly than Donaldson.

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by thecoolest on Sep 4, 2008 8:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Glenn Gibson

I wrote a little about him today on our site, no idea. Drafted in the 4th round by Washington. Doesn’t appear injured, but he’s bad as a reliever his 3rd time through the NYPL. First year ‘06, fine in light duty. Second year, made himself a top prospect. Traded for Elijah Dukes. Promoted to A and failed, demoted to SSA Hudson Valley and still isn’t good. We didn’t care what we got for Dukes at the time because his value was so low, but this looked like a steal. Now, not so much. My full article, which I would have just copied, but I don’t know if SBN handles tables, is here.

http://www.raysprospects.com/

by DAM on Sep 4, 2008 9:28 PM EDT   0 recs

+1

I agree that he’s a bigger headscratcher than Brignac or Jennings. Matt Walker, who apparently came down with Steve Blass Disease, is another nominee.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Sep 5, 2008 11:08 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What's head-scratching about Jennings?

Injuries aren’t head-scratching. They’re just unfortunate.

by aap212 on Sep 5, 2008 2:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Corey Brown

He’s obviously good at hitting baseballs in the abstract, so how on earth does he strike out so $$@% much?

Honorable mention, Craig Italiano. Though in his case I think he just ran out of gas after missing most of the last 2 years.

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by PaulThomas on Sep 5, 2008 4:22 AM EDT   0 recs

my A's head-scratchers

Jesus Guzman: even at 24 his numbers were very good, he came back well from his rehab too, but is he really a prospect at 2B/3B?

H-Rod: staggeringly inconsistent.

Javier Herrera: hit pretty well after his first two weeks back, still has tools galore, everybody has given up on him, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he becomes just as good as any of the other OFs on our roster, only for another club.

by jakarta on Sep 5, 2008 5:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

SFGiants: 1B Travis Ishikawa

Highly-regarded HS player, drafted in 2002 in the 21st round (and given a bonus more in line with his potential than his round – surprising in and of itself for the Giants). Supposedly good defensively – just waiting to see if the young kid could hit as he advanced.

He made steady, if unspectacular, progress in ‘02 and ’03. His power showed up in ’04 and ’05 in HighA ball (16 and 22 HR’s respectively), though the BA was pedestrian. He struggled in 2006 at AA at Norwich (a notorious pitchers’ park), although strangely he did quite well during a brief (and unexpected) callup to San Francisco. He had some injuries that year, and 2007 saw him bounce between A+ San Jose and AA Norwich (now renamed Connecticut). He floundered again in AA, and did only slightly better back in A+ that year, at which point most Giants prospect-watchers conceded that he was another high-upside guy who never would pan out.

He was assigned to AA once again this year, and despite the hitter-unfriendly circumstances he blossomed there, hitting .291 with 8 HR and 48 RBI in 234 AB’s. That got him a midseason promotion to AAA, where in the hitter-friendly PCL he hit .264 in 121 AB’s with 8 more HR and 26 RBI – although he trended significantly upward as his time there went on, including having a torrid week. At this point, he’s a September callup, and Giants fans are now scratching their heads wondering if this year’s resurgance is just temporary or if perhaps he’s finally realizing his potential.

And since the Giants have a gaping hole at 1B (and have had since Will Clark left), his development would drastically alter the team’s plans this offseason. We just don’t know what to expect for next year.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. - Bob Lemon, 1981

by Lyle on Sep 5, 2008 10:54 AM EDT   0 recs

Cristian Santana

Shot out of the gate, then started K’ing something ridiculous like 40-50% after maybe 5, 6 weeks.

He’s still young and highly touted, and plays in a pitcher-friendly league (MWL), but it might already be kind to call him a head-scratcher. Got a soft spot for him, though.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Sep 5, 2008 10:31 PM EDT   0 recs

Dodgers = Greg Miller

Still has the stuff to dominate, but can’t throw strikes to save his life.

by Thinkblue on Sep 6, 2008 7:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Nice Thread

For this Cubs fan, it’s got to be Jeff Samardjzia. He still only has 22 IP with the big league club.

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by WayneCampbell08 on Sep 8, 2008 11:00 AM EDT   0 recs

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