OPS + Question

by baseballgg24 on Aug 28, 2008 2:05 PM EDT Comment 8 comments

Hi guys. I'v got a question regarding the pretty commonly used stat OPS+. On baseball reference, it seems to me that the OPS + number that is given for players is their percentage above average for ALL of MLB. What I am looking for is OPS + for each position.

As you well know, a 1st basemen with an OPS + of 105 is not nearly as valuable as a catcher with and identical reading. Basically, what I'm looking for is that OSP + adjusted for a players main position. Any insight at all would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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BP website

may have something like that.

I just find it easier to use VORP

by METSMETSMETS on Aug 28, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Also...

VORP is adjusted for position on there, essentially what you are looking for.

by casejud on Aug 28, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is all of baseball.

Its not corrected for position.

It probably wouldnt be that hard to take the starters, like minimum 400 AB, at each position and average their OPS+ numbers. It wouldnt be exact, but it would give you a nice ballpark figure. I dont know of anywhere you could fins that now, though.

by alskor on Aug 28, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No it's not.

It’s league-dependent, and adjusted for ballpark.

Often wrong, never uncertain.

by sidnancy on Aug 30, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Use EqA

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/eqa2008.php#postot

Divide player EqA by positional average.

by dkdc on Aug 28, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The Easy Way Out

This data may be slightly out dated, but it is seemingly relavent.

The Hardball Times did a study about the average player in respect to OPS+, check out the link here

The internet's latest attempt at understanding the insides of baseball.

by bbdbrandon on Aug 28, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thanks Alot

Thanks for everything. That article was especially interesting. This site once again proves to be one of, if not the best resources around. Nice work.

by baseballgg24 on Aug 28, 2008 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

B-R to the rescue

If you use the splits pages on Baseball-Reference.com, you can simply check a player’s “sOPS+” by position, which appears to be exactly what you’re looking for.

For example, in 2008 Hanley Ramirez has an overall OPS+ of 143 and a sOPS+ of 160 as a SS.

(Note that the sOPS+ includes only PA while at a specific position; thus, it skips Hanley’s few PAs as a PH or DH.)

by ManConley on Aug 30, 2008 2:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs