Discussion Question: Maybin vs. McCutchen
by John Sickels on Aug 24, 2008 11:26 AM EDT
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PrintOk, so at this point who is a better prospect, Cameron Maybin or Andrew McCutchen? I still think Maybin, but is that right? Maybin's physical tools are better than McCutchen, but his strikeout rate is a lot higher. Neither has dominated this year. Maybin's +11 OPS is better than McCutchen's +3, but McCutchen has been playing in the more difficult Triple-A environment.
So, if you could have one or the other for your favorite team's farm system, who would it be and why?
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I haven't gotten to see Maybin this year
but I jsut saw McCut hit a few times vs. David Price and man did he look good.
He didn’t even have that great of a game but his swing was quick and he did such a good job of making hard contact even on outs. There is some power in it too.
At this point I’m thinking his DOWNSIDE is a plus CF and baserunner with an average bat, and hes got the potential to hit alot more than that too
I'll take McCutchen
I’m just too fearful of Maybin never hitting better than .250 in the bigs. Yes, he has good IsoDISP, and yes, he has great power, but even a sabermetrician has to be worried about a .278 AVG propped up by a BABIP in the .370’s.
And his 31% K rate is not going anywhere but up once he reaches the bigs.
It’s impossible to succeed with that kind of skill set without incredible tools. Luckily, Maybin has them, but unless he has a once in a decade (think Jose Reyes) discipline upgrade, it’s not going to happen.
McCutch has nearly as much upside and a much higher floor. He really impressed me at the Futures game…
I'll warm up with you anytime
Plate discipline
Maybin has 56 walks in 101 games. In an MLB season that would put him on pace for 85 walks which is VERY good.
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift
by King Billy Royal on Aug 24, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I take Daryl Jones over both of them
Walks more than both, has stolen as many bases, K’s significantly less than Maybin, hit for more pop than McCutchen. Nearly 3/4 of a year younger than Cutch, 3 months younger than Maybin.
Really Braves?
Because just a few days ago you posted this:
1)Rasmus
2)Heyward
3)Jackson
4)Fowler
5)McCutchen
6)Stanton
7)Maybin
8)LaPorta-DH in the making, knocks the rank down
9)Snider-DH in the making, knocks the rank down
10)Saunders
Where was Jones on your list?
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift
by King Billy Royal on Aug 24, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybin
Maybin’s strikeout splits are eerily similar to that of Eric Davis’. Whiffs a lot against right-handers. Not the worst problem to have for a quick, compact power stroke. By 2010 he’s going to be a legit five-tool big-leaguer, and a potential three-hitter. McCutchen projects to someday be one of the better lead-off hitters in baseball, but I think his all-around tools can’t touch Maybin.
Maybin tops McCutchen
Although many naysayers would criticize Maybin for his high K rate and McCutchen for his lack of HRs, both players are still refining their raw skills (drafted out of HS) and should continue to make the necessary adjustments going forward.
My nod goes to Maybin for his physical size and plus power which McCutchen lacks.
+1
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
Vote surprising
The vote strikes me as surprising, considering Maybin is winning a good amount.
Although it’s within a few players, most of the rankings lists I view have McCutchen over Maybin.
Maybin
It comes down to tools and potential here. Maybin has more than McCutchen.
Go Pirates!!!
by cool hand Charlie on Aug 25, 2008 11:02 AM EDT reply actions
Upside versus Probability for me
I see red flags and upside with both, but to me, McCutchen looks like he’s going to be a Marquis Grisson type player (which is very good if you remember his early years), while Maybin has more potential for full-on stardom. I think McCutchen is more likely to fulfill that potential, but I still take Maybin’s upside.
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