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Carlos Rosa/Wade Davis/Gio Gonzalez

Who would you rather have?

Davis: 90-94 fastball, plus curve, average change, some control issues, good poise, nothing majorly wrong in his delivery, in AAA struggling with the walks.

 

Rosa: 93-95 MPH fastball, plus slider/curve(different sources saying different things), above average changeup, great control, nothing worrisome on his delivery, doing great in all levels this year.

 

Gonzalez: 88-92 fastball, plus to plus plus curve, average change, some control issues, nice clean delivery, in the MLB but struggled in AAA.

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Wade Davis

I am a big Davis believer. He has the best stuff of the 3 starters in my opinion. I like Gio but he really has only one great pitch and I have heard that he will likely be a number 3 starter at best.

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by King Billy Royal on Aug 23, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

The OP makes Carlos Rosa sound like the best bet, tho. Not sure if that was intentional or not. That said, I still prefer Wade Davis.

by toonsterwu on Aug 24, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take Rosa...

If I was 100% sure he’d be a starter. That I’m not completely convinced of.

In the long run…I like Gonzalez a lot. One of the best curves I’ve seen in person in the minor leagues.

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by doublestix on Aug 24, 2008 1:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Gio's FB has been consistantly 91

I thought it was a bit better but with his curve he can get by with an average fastball if he can control it.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 24, 2008 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gio

So far, in 19.1 major league innings, his fastball has averaged only 89.1 mph. It’s not a deal-breaker with a curveball like his, but it’s a little worrisome.

by DrunkIrish on Aug 25, 2008 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind, fangraphs is real velocity

and TV radar guns are made up velocity…

That 2 MPH spread between what we see on TV and what fangraphs shows is very typical. Davis is probably 88-92, Rosa 91-93 by the same token.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 25, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

who exactly does fangraphs get their velo numbers from. Everyone knows to take TV and stadium guns with a grain of salt if they are showing unusual numbers but I don’t see any reason to assume Fangraphs is allknowing and perfect unless you can show me someone with a Stalker Sport right behind the plate putting the numbers in

by nms on Aug 25, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Davis

isn’t 88-92 on scouts guns

by nms on Aug 25, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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