i didn’t see dkdc’s post when i posted that

It sort of does surprise me that Ned Colletti didnt claim him…

I mean, if someone had just claimed him and then not offered any trade, the DBacks would have just pulled him back. The other teams presumably know this and, as they were unwilling to give up anything more than the draft picks they would presumably be buying, they just passed. In the end, the claiming team would accomplish nothing but pissing off the Reds and any team that actually wanted Dunn for the stretch run.

I dunno. Maybe if someone wanted to try to make a deal that was essentially draft picks for cash (Dunn’s salary) there could have been something worked out. But I would also guess that GMs have something of a “gentleman’s agreement” to not dick around with waiver claims at this point in the year.

With 2 first round picks coming if Dunn leaves via free agency and not much in the Diamondbacks system past Parker, Scherzer and Parra, I’ll be pissed if one of them isn’t included. Actually I’ll be pissed if it’s not Parker or Scherzer as the Reds system is loaded with prospects similar to Parra.

then that would definitely be a fair price. Adam Dunn is one of the best hitters in the major leagues – getting him without giving up any top prospects would be robbery

He’s about the only one who wouldn’t make sense, actually. And if it was him, chances are it would’ve been reported already even if it isn’t official just yet.

This whole thing kind of reminds me of all the Indians fans on here last year hoping that the Indians somehow got like Adam Jones for Ben Broussard, lol.

And yes, it’s entirely possible that it could be a pick-from-a-list sort of deal if the Reds haven’t gotten to see all the players in question as much as they want to. Chances are this deal came together very quickly given that it came after July 31, so the Reds might have a list of names on paper but not much else to go on.

of a late first round pick

he cant be traded. hes played in an MLB game this year. same with scherzer.

You can’t compare RBIs when one guy has the Youkilises and Ortizes of the world batting in front of him, while the other has to try to drive in the occasionally-on-base Corey Pattersons of the world.

And the career numbers are assuming that Manny’s going to hit like the late-90s/early-00s Manny of five-plus years ago.

Reality is that the last two years, Manny has OBP-ed .388 and .412, while Dunn has OBP-ed .386 and .373. Manny has slugged .493 and .560, while Dunn has OBP-ed .554 and .528. Advantage Manny, but not by very much at all.

Then count in their defense, which is not “all preference”, like no one can tell at all. Not that Dunn is a worldbeater on defense, but he can play 1B and isn’t quite as bad a LF as Manny. Advantage Dunn, if, again, not by very much.

It’s like the Manny/Bay argument. The only people who don’t realize it’s a wash are the people who think that Manny’s the Manny of old. It was amazing how for most of the season, people were talking about how his bat had slowed and he couldn’t catch up to good fastballs anymore. And then he was traded, and all of a sudden, it was: how could you trade a HOF hitter?

I couldn’t see this one at all . . .like, what happens if Scherzer hurts his arm again during this season? Do the Reds let the Dbacks handle the medical treatment of a guy who’s actually Cincy property? If he has a serious injury, the Reds end up getting damaged goods . . .do they then have a contingency plan? And why would the Reds want a guy who’s likely only tradable because of injury concerns – and then allow the other team to use the guy as they wish for the next 3 months? If he does remain healthy, do the Dbacks use Scherzer significantly more heavily than they would otherwise, knowing that they don’t care about what happens to him after this year?

Owings seems like a decent possibility, but do the Reds really want him all that much either? I guess he’s a major league pitcher, but he’s a 4-5 starter or a reliever with the fringe benefit of a good bat for a pitcher.

What I meant was that the Dodgers GAVE UP a similar package to get Manny back. They gave up LaRoche and Morris. The D-Backs gave up Owings and Buck (and a PTBNL). So similar packages, I’d say.