Desmond Jennings has surgery on shoulder
by joltinjoe on Jul 7, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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PrintCenter fielder Desmond Jennings, one of Tampa Bay's top prospects and a former Alabama football signee, will have shoulder surgery Wednesday and is likely out for the rest of the season, according to the Tampa Tribune.
He's played in just 24 games this year for Class A Vero Beach after suffering a back injury and then a shoulder injury in spring training.
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080707/SPORTS01/807070304/1002
When I first heard of Jennings and looked at his numbers, he looked like a potential Carl Crawford-type. However, it seems that injuries keep holding him back.
While his bb-k ratio has been very good in his 1+ years as a pro (about 1-to-1), I'm starting to think that I may have overrated him.
If healthy, can he be a fantasy superstar w/ 20+ homers and 50 SB along with a nice AVG and OPS?
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I thought Law rating him top 20 was absurd
This is why. I won’t quite say nobody in low-A ball should ever be a top 20 prospect, but the guy had better be impeccable physically and an amazing prospect to get that ranking.
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+1
I agree wholeheartedly. The only other exceptions are college players who just come out and finish the season in High A.
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He was 20 years old...
and finished his 2nd year of pro ball last year. Eliminating this group of players from a subjective ranking system leaves you with a small crop to choose from, especially when you’re compiling a list of 100 players.
by ProspectTube.com on Jul 8, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
The line of thinking in the other posts is exactly why I hate prospect lists. It isn’t some game where you earn points for various accomplishments or attributes.
You are a top 20 prospect if whoever is calling you that thinks you have (or project to have) more MLB skill than all but 20 players in the minors right now.
There isn’t ANYTHING, other than not being any good, that should be a disqualifier.
If Law, or Ba, or BP, or my grandma, or my cat, thinks someone is that good than they should rank them appropriately. It would be nonsensical for an educated observer to watch a player and say, “Gosh I think he will be a talented MLB player. Too bad he is too young to rank high. I’ll rank him 50 this year and then 20 next year when I am allowed to.”
That is idiocy.
I think people treat prospect lists as some sort of a game or sport unto themselves instead of what they reallly mean. It is bizarre really
by nms on Jul 8, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Amen brother
I couldnt have said it better. The other day someoe asked “Where do you rank Maddy Bumgarner among pitchers/ prospects?” I said I thought there were maybe 6-7 pitchers who’s future I’d take an that makes him anywhere from 15-20 among prospects for me and a guy jumps all over me for ranking a guy that high from low- A. Shoot, i dont care where he is at. I put Stephen Strasberg in the top 10 also.
I will say that people have different ideas of what they are doing when they make a list but I am aboard with your idea of one. A prospect list, for me, lists which players have the most potentail for big league sucess at that given moment. Its interesting that the MOMENT is a crucial part of it…they should all be dated, i think. Closness to the bigs makes no difference other than it ges somewhat easier to see the closer a player gets…sometimes.
Strasburg
is the best pitching prospect at any level of baseball despite being a Sophomore in college in my opinion. He has everything you want. I would listen to a Kershaw or Price argument, but I don’t think you could convince me
I completely agree with though, that closeness to the bigs shouldn’t matter. It’s how good you think a player is going to be based on your analysis.
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Absurd?
Are you suggesting that based on this injury, you believe his top 20 ranking was absurd? Or, based on his current talent level you believe the ranking was absurd?
by ProspectTube.com on Jul 8, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe it is absurd on its face to rank a player
playing ball at that low of a level as one of the true elite prospects unless the guy has unbelievable, generational talent (i.e. he’s more or less a guaranteed All-Star once he makes the majors). There are way too many things that can get in the way—family crises, injuries, psychological issues, off-field distractions, you name it.
It represents a misconception of what the point is. The point is not to say what players have the highest upsides, it’s to figure out which players will be the most valuable as a consequence of their play in major league baseball.
As for your question, I thought it was absurd at the time I read it—and subsequent events have not exactly changed my mind.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
We'll agree to disagree...
While I’m on board with your line of thinking that says, in most cases rankings are used “to figure out which players will be the most valuable as a consequence of their play in major league baseball”, I’m still not buying the elimination of low-level talent. In today’s prospect world, most high level players either completely skip AAA or only spend minimal time at that level. In fact, if you look at most of the current crop of young, potential MLB stars currently playing in the bigs, few spent more than half a season at AAA. Guys like Bruce, Upton, Longoria, Ellsbury, Joba, Gomez, etc, merely had a cup of coffee in AAA before joining their big league clubs. So with that being said, minor league grooming systems for the top prospects have essential shrunk from 5 levels of ball (AAA, AA, A+, A, Rk) to 4 levels, eliminating AAA are a true evaluation level. So guys like Jennings are essentially only 1 or 2 levels away from their ultimate destination.
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by ProspectTube.com on Jul 10, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Tough couple of weeks for Tampa
McGee and Jennings
Man if I where one of thier prospects is would look out, bad luck happens in 3’s
really?
If I’m Tampa these last couple of weeks have maybe been the best in our baseball history
by nms on Jul 8, 2008 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
tampa
they’re so stacked…. they’re in no rush to move these guys through the system with the gluttony of talent at the upper levels, so they can be cautious with these injuries, still take the time to develop these guys correctly, and minimize the long term affect on their progression…
I'll warm up with you anytime
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