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Thoughts on Jhoulys Chacin

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Thinking about Jhoulys Chacin

Chacin was signed by the Rockies in 2004 out of Venezuela. He didn't get to North American until '07, when he went 6-3, 3.13 with a 77/26 K/BB in 92 innings for Casper in the Pioneer League, allowing 85 hits. He also posted a 2.70 GO/AO ratio. Scouts were impressed with his 90-92 MPH fastball, curveball, and changeup, although the secondary pitches were erratic and needed to be sharpened. I had one of those good intuitive feelings about him when I wrote the 2008 book, and I gave him a big SLEEPER ALERT! header in his book comment, rating him as a Grade C+ pending higher level data, but a breakthrough candidate.

Said breakthrough is in progress Chacin went 10-1, 1.86 for Asheville this spring, with a 98/30 K/BB in 111 innings, just 82 hits and three homers allowed, and a 2.83 GO/AO. He was just promoted to Modesto in the Cal League and threw eight shutout innings in his first start, fanning eight with one walk and five hits given up. His velocity has picked up further, his breaking stuff is reportedly sharper this year, his changeup is outstanding, he's still getting tons of grounders, and his command has been solid.

Gradewise I am moving him up a full rating to Grade B+ and would definitely put him in my Top 50 Pitchers list, although I don't know exactly where yet. The combination of a fairly high strikeout rate, lots of grounders, and improving stuff stands out. He's also just 20 years old. About the only negative in his profile I can see is his size: he's a smallish guy at 6-1, 180. Personally I don't care about that, but some scouts worry it could limit his long-term projectability. In theory it is harder for a shorter pitcher to pitch down in the zone, but it's obviously not a problem for Chacin.

He has to get through the injury nexus, of course. Lots of bad things could happen. But Chacin taken a huge step forward this year, and has to be rated among the best right-handed pitching prospects in the game now.

They don't get a lot of attention for it, but the Rockies seem to have a knack for finding power arms in Latin America.

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I like him a lot...

one game earlier this season against the Greenville Drive he had something like a 20/1 GO/AO ratio. That’s crazy. But yea, he’s in my Top 10 RHP’s.

by templeUsox on Jul 3, 2008 12:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His size

Per Baseball America, he grew ~3 inches and added ~30 lbs over the winter. That puts him around 6’4, 200 now. That growth also played in a part in the increased velocity.

by rdf8585 on Jul 3, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I missed that

I missed that report….that would certainly explain some things, wouldn’t it.

by John Sickels on Jul 3, 2008 3:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

link/

do you have a link to that report? I can’t find it.

by John Sickels on Jul 3, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really have a hard time believing that he is 6’4… much less 6’3 or 6’2

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by sully10x on Jul 3, 2008 3:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chacin

Besides Baseball America, Asheville’s paper listed him at 6’3 / 200 back in March (http://blogs.citizen-times.com/blogs/index.php?blog=12&title=2008_asheville_tourists_roster&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1)

I think the BA report is here: http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/minors/classification-reports/low-class-a/2008/265959.html

Jim Shonerd, an editorial assistant at BA, also mentioned the growth when I had sent an e-mail to their prospect blog inquiring about Chacin -

“Chacin’s stock has really jumped this year. He grew about 3 inches and added 30 pounds since last season, which has helped his fastball’s velocity climb up into the mid-90s now. Combine that with his feel and ability to throw his changeup, and some have called him a righthanded Johan Santana. Although it’s too soon to make such declarations about a guy who’s in Low A, his ceiling is way up there especially if he can develop his curveball, which is currently his third best pitch. Plus you have to give him some extra-credit since his home ballpark in Asheville is one of the most hitter-friendly ballparks in all the minor leauges.”

by rdf8585 on Jul 3, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, besides the first post

the BA one could be interpreted as he was 5’11 last year.

Also, the comparison to Santana is pretty awful. Santana is a flyball pitcher, while Chacin is an extreme ground ball pitcher.

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by sully10x on Jul 3, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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