Los Angeles Dodgers Top 20 Prospects in Review
This list was posted Christmas Eve, 2007. Remember, this is a REVIEW OF THE OLD LIST. IT IS NOT A NEW LIST!!!!!!!!!!!
1) Clayton Kershaw, LHP, Grade A
1.91 ERA with 59/19 K/BB in 61 innings for Double-A Jacksonville, went 0-2, 4.42 with 33/24 K/BB in 39 innings for the Dodgers. Clearly elite, best pitching prospect in baseball.
2) Andy LaRoche, 3B, Grade A-
Injuries an issue, hit .284/.439/.411 in the minors, .200/.322/.340 in the majors so far. Still has that terrific strike zone judgment.
3) James McDonald, RHP, Grade B+
3.01 ERA with 106/38 K/BB in 108 innings in Double-A, 88 hits allowed. Everything looking good, main concern is strong fly ball tendency.
4) Chin-Lung Hu, SS, Grade B
Hit .159/.224/.206 in 49 games for the Dodgers, no consistent playing time. Just sent back to Triple-A.
5) Jonathan Meloan, RHP, Grade B
4,97 ERA with 99/60 K/BB in 105 innings, 119 hits allowed at Triple-A Las Vegas. Conversion to starting from relief is going OK, command an issue.
6) Dewlyn Young, OF, Grade B-
Hitting .248/.319/.333 on the Dodgers bench. Capable of much better if he ever gets to play.
7) Chris Withrow, RHP, Grade B-
Hasn't pitched this year due to a sore elbow.
8) Scott Elbert, LHP, Grade C+
2.33 ERA with 24/14 K/BB in 27 innings for Double-A Jacksonville, 14 hits allowed. Durability still a concern, as is command.
9) Blake DeWitt, 3B, Grade C+
Cooled down after hot start, hitting .255/.322/.360 for the Dodgers.
10) Andrew Lambo, 1B, Grade C+
Impressive production in the Midwest League, hitting .293/.350/.486 for Great Lakes.
11) Pedro Baez, 3B, Grade C+
Hit just .178/.244/.259 in the Midwest League, leading to demotion to the Pioneer League. Doing better there, .315/.344/.532 for Ogden, though with poor plate discipline.
12) Josh Bell, 3B, Grade C+
.273/.373/.455 for Inland Empire in the California League. OK but not a breakout performance.
13) Ivan DeJesus, SS, Grade C+
.302/.408/.369 with 11 steals, 57 walks, 57 strikeouts in 325 at-bats in Double-A. Speed, plate discipline, good defense, not much power.
14) James Adkins, LHP, Grade C+
5.34, 75/38 K/BB in 88 innings for Inland Empire, 106 hits allowed. Disappointing performance from a polished college pitcher.
15) Xavier Paul, OF, Grade C+
.301/.366/.438 with 14 steals in 18 attempst for Las Vegas. Still projects as a fourth outfielder.
16) Justin Orenduff, RHP, Grade C+
6.78 ERA with 71/49 K/BB in 81 innings, 104 hits allowed for Las Vegas. Seems overmatched in the PCL. Perhaps a switch to relief would help.
17) Austin Gallagher, 3B, Grade C
.317/.361/.491 for Inland Empire. Poor strike zone judgment, but young for the league at 19.
18) Jamie Hoffman, OF, Grade C
.288/.364/.415 with 20 steals in 26 attempts for Jacksonville. Speed and OBP are nice, has a bit of pop.
19) Jaime Pedroza, SS, Grade C
.291/.352/.439 with 15 steals in 24 attempts for Inland Empire. Holding his own, plate discipline might be troublesome at next level.
20) Ramon Troncoso, RHP, Grade C
4.99 ERA with 18/16 K/BB in 31 innings for Vegas, 4.32 ERA with 19/6 K/BB in 17 innings for the Dodgers. Extreme ground ball pitcher. If he throws strikes, will be very useful.
Typical up and down movement among the prospects. Kershaw looks great, but LaRoche's stock has dropped and perhaps he needs a change of scenery. Hu and Young need at-bats that they aren't likely to get for the Dodgers.
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LaRoche
Not sure that LaRoche’s stock has dropped, unless having your team stick you on the bench for no good reason is a point against you.
The Dodgers are clearly clueless since DeWitt hasn’t hit a lick for the past two months, yet they still won’t give LaRoche a chance.
Hopefully he’ll get traded to the Twins.
by BaseballBrain on Jul 22, 2008 12:51 PM EDT 0 recs
are you kidding me?
where do you pull this out of?
Have you missed the part about him being pretty badly injured and, consequently, not driving the ball with any authority?
But yes, ignore that.. its just that baseball people are idiots compared to you.
by nms on
Jul 22, 2008 3:46 PM EDT
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The fact is, Torre had this fascination with Blake DeWitt who has sucked hard for the last 2 months and yet LaRoche can’t get any sort of playing time until this series(Torre saying he’ll start every game of the Rockies series). The honeymoon with DeWitt is over, it was a nice story but he is clearly outclassed right now.
by ASUcruz on
Jul 22, 2008 3:52 PM EDT
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im not talking about DeWitt
I’m talking about the other posters ludicrous idea that the ONLY thing wrong w LaRoche is that “clueless” Joe Torre.
LaRoche has not had a good year. He has been hurt and his only skill for much of the year was taking a walk, which is fine but it isn’t what you want to see a power hitting 3b doing.
by nms on
Jul 22, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
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Thumb is hurt
Yes, he got a freak injury to his thumb and this has probably caused a loss of power in the short term. I still don’t see how this hurts his long-term outlook.
by BaseballBrain on
Jul 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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Any thoughts on why Hu has struggled so much?
Is he just overmatched, or was it a mental thing, or what?
by Vlad on Jul 22, 2008 1:23 PM EDT 0 recs
He’s reported blurred vision in his right eye, but I haven’t seen a real diagnosis of the problem. Just started playing again over the weekend, at Las Vegas.
by Andrew Shimmin on
Jul 22, 2008 1:42 PM EDT
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He also struggled mentally. I remember reading something, probably in the Times, about how he was thinking so much about his mechanics while he was hitting, he wasn’t even thinking about what the pitcher might throw him.
by dbthewise1313 on
Jul 23, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
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Meloan
Why was he converted from a reliever to a starter? He has always looked dominant as a late inning guy.
by clark on Jul 22, 2008 3:16 PM EDT 0 recs
He had great success as a starter in college. Guess they wanted him to try and start with the idea that he could always go back to the bullpen if it didn’t work out.
by ASUcruz on
Jul 22, 2008 3:49 PM EDT
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Meloan
It was Meloan’s idea to go back to starting and the Dodgers accommodated him.
by count sutton on
Jul 22, 2008 4:03 PM EDT
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I was curious to see if anyone had any info on Withrow’s injury. Looked really good last year and the initial reports on him were pretty glowing.
by Kemp on Jul 22, 2008 3:40 PM EDT 0 recs
RE: Josh Bell
BTW, Josh Bell had knee surgery and is out for the year.
by ASUcruz on Jul 22, 2008 3:48 PM EDT 0 recs
Currently
Dodgers top 5 positional players (Hu and Laroche will break prospect status)
Andrew Lambo
Ivan Dejesus
Carlos Santana
Austin Gallagher
Josh Bell (injured but I still like him)
top 5 pitchers (Kershaw will not qualify)
Scott Elbert
James McDonald
Bryan Morris
Ethan Martin
Chris Withrow
by npurcell on Jul 22, 2008 4:33 PM EDT 0 recs
Why Elbert at #1?
Pitching an inning every 3 days isn’t exactly a great sign in terms of his health. At one point it looked like he was stretching out, but once he got up to 3 IP they had to slow it down and drop back to 1 IP. Do you think he’s every going to make it back into the rotation?
And just curious to hear your thoughts on Morris. The numbers look fine – especially of late – but how is his stuff at this point in his recovery?
Thanks.
by philly on
Jul 22, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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Lambo
Before the season I was hearing a lot of comparisons to Andre Ethier, with 13 home runs so far in the Midwest League it looks like he has a lot more power potential. Who does he compare to now?
by thefordhamflash on Jul 22, 2008 5:47 PM EDT 0 recs
DeJesus
I was surprised to see DeJesus listed so high. He’s like 55 years old
by Ox on Jul 22, 2008 6:32 PM EDT 0 recs
DeJesus
He’s not having a bad comeback, though I agree he is a little old for a prospect.
by DeJay on
Jul 23, 2008 5:04 AM EDT
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haha you guys are funny!
the dodgers have ivan dejesus jr,!!
he is currently 21 in AA thats pretty good right?
by jeph on
Jul 23, 2008 12:51 PM EDT
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DeJesus and others...
The Dodgers seem to love to draft sons and nephews of major leaguers. Off the top of my head, I can think of Preston Mattingly, Scott Van Slyke, Devaris Gordon. Austin Yount, Mathew Wallach and DeJesus. It will be interesting to see if any pan out…
by wonderphenom on
Jul 25, 2008 11:24 AM EDT
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Lambo
Andrew Lambo = Nick Markakis light
i dont think he will be as good but i think he has a similar skill set
by jeph on Jul 23, 2008 12:54 PM EDT 0 recs
agreed
it’s hard to predict he’ll be nick markakis but i think he’s a hell of a prospect. i love me some andrew lambo.
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on
Jul 23, 2008 3:10 PM EDT
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Lambo
He isn’t the defensive player Markakis is but that is a reasonable comparison for offensive purposes.
While Lambo gets a lot of pub, Austin Gallagher meanwhiles receives basically none. I feel they are pretty comparable as far as ceilings go for prospects.
Gallagher was drafted one round before Lambo and both are 19 but he is playing in a league higher and putting up comparable numbers. He is listed as a 3b right now, but I don’t think he stay there; I’m projecting him for LF at the moment.
His numbers in the Cal League:
220ABs 323/370/500 18bb 55k 32XBHs
While he hasn’t had many homeruns yet, he has had an insane amount of doubles and with his body (6’5 220lb) it seems to suggest homerun power is coming down the road. The strikeouts and lack of walks are a concern but concerning how young he is for the league, it doesn’t bother me too much yet.
by npurcell on
Jul 23, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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kershaw
i know he’s only 20 yrs. old, i realize he’s just getting his feet wet but i don’t see phenom when i watch him. command aside, he throws a straight albeit hard fastball and i haven’t seen that bugs bunny curve like he threw to sean casey in the spring.
i’ve watched just about all his starts and am left wanting more. i don’t know, color me unimpressed.
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on Jul 23, 2008 3:14 PM EDT 0 recs
Kershaw
I’m no pitching coach, but he looks outstanding to me (even after getting his brains beat in by Colorado).
by Ox on
Jul 23, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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how so?
i know i’m probably in the minority here but what are you seeing that i’m not? believe me, i’m trying to watch him through rose colored glasses but they end up turning gray. i see shaky command at best (i know he’s young) and a 95 mph straight fastball that gets hit pretty hard.
again, i’m not trying to say that he won’t or can’t be an excellent pitcher but at this time i’m not seeing anything that screams phenom but i hope you’re right about him.
just my 2 cents!
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on
Jul 24, 2008 11:06 AM EDT
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If you aren’t improved by his curve, I find it hard to believe you have actually watched him. It has tremendous break and when mixed with his 97 MPH heater (Which is not straight as you claim) and his changeup, Kershaw has the potential to be an elite starter. His command in the minors has improved dramatically this season, and he is likely wild in the majors due to age and nerves.
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by King Billy Royal on
Jul 24, 2008 1:05 PM EDT
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his fastball looks straight to me. it also doesn’t seem to explode on hitters like i expected. the only thing that explodes is the ball leaving the bat. as for his curveball, he does throw some dandies but he’s pretty inconsistent which, as i’ve said previously, has to do with his youth.
i’ve watched him quite a bit and i don’t care about his numbers per say. i’m only talking about what i see on the tube. not impressed so far but i pray that will change.
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
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Jul 24, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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