Another trip to Binghamton with a much better report
Okay i'll start with Jon Neise. 1st 2 innings he was sitting at 89-91 MPH and touched 92 once. He showed a plus curve at times fooling hitters. He also threw a solidly average change up that got one swing a miss for a strikeout but he had some control issues with that pitch. The 3rd, 4th, and 5th innings he was sitting at 88-89 and touched 90 once but he got into trouble because he left the ball over the plate too much and he allowed some hits a few runs. The 6th inning he did allow any hits but his velocity was down to 86-87 this inning. However, in the 7th he came back throwing a bit harder sitting at 88-89 but his command was off as he walked a guy and allowed a game tying double. He did strikeout two batters in the inning, but was taken out with 2 outs in the inning. Niese final line 6.2 IP 8 H 4 ER 3 BB 7 K's 1 HBP. The wind blowing in absolutly saved him in the game though. Three balls hit off of Niese should have been homeruns but the wind knocked them down into deep flyballs. To me, Niese is no better as a 4th at best and is more likely to be like Scott Schenweis in the bullpen because he can hit the low 90's early in games.
Dan Murphy: He can hit, I left the game after the 7th because I wouldn't have gotten home until 2 AM which is not good for me so I missed his homerun. He has a sound swing that has 20 HR power in it I beleive. He got fooled though by good changeups so he needs work there. He hit an opposite field double, and just missed a homer because the wind held it up and went off the wall. Murphy thought it was gone at first and he got thrown out at 2nd. Murphy has average speed at best and he runs like a duck, not very pretty. He didn't have many opportunities at 2nd but he did make the play on his only chance he had. To me he could be a poor man's Chase Utley if he can stay at 2nd.
Fernando Martinez: The good and the bad. Great swing and he got a triple in the 1st inning, it should have been a double but the RF was terrible in the game. He just missed a homer dead center because the wind was blowing about 10 MPH in held it up to the warning track. Anywhere else in the stadium it's a homerun. However, there was plenty of bad I seen with Martinez in this game and before the game. He halfassed warming up for the game, as he didn't even really try to get ready, often finishing last out of 5 guys in a line. He has a horrible inaccurate throwing arm as he threw low and wild at times, which makes me think he's a left fielder or even a 1st baseman. There is no way i'd put him in Right with that arm, though it did have some strength in it. He got fooled pretty good by offspeed stuff which is why he grounded out the rest of the game in his remaining AB's. To me, if his offense develops, he is probably another Garrett Anderson or Carlos Lee if he can learn to take some walks.
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Why no report on Carp?
Perhaps your mother taught you, “if you don’t have anything nice to say….”
by acerimusdux on Jul 19, 2008 10:31 AM EDT 0 recs
Carp missed a homer because of the Wind
and he hit the ball right where they are.
by Bravesin07 on
Jul 19, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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Good to hear
I have been a bit concerned about his drop in power the last couple of months. He’s starting to look to me like James Loney without the defense. Not bad, but a second tier guy.
by acerimusdux on
Jul 19, 2008 6:27 PM EDT
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Good Report
Though I feel your being WAYY to critical on Jon Niese. The kid is what 21-22 years old? and had an ERA of 3.1 before tonight’s start. You said it yourself he has a good curveball and an average changeup. The velocity will maintain as he gets older, and you saw him pitch a bad game..
I don’t see how you can compare him to Scott Show though.
by Duece on Jul 19, 2008 12:37 PM EDT 0 recs
I don't know about Shaw...
But his stuff isn’t really much different from Mike Antonini. Antonini is more good changeup and average curve. And it’s a very different type of change up. But it’s not a big gap in stuff overall.
by acerimusdux on
Jul 19, 2008 1:46 PM EDT
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Ehh, you need to be careful about making career judgements based off of only the 2 games that you’ve seen.
Obviously it wasn’t Niese’s best outing that you saw, you can tell that just by looking at the overall results, so you’re judging a pitcher based off an off-game on the guy. Not saying you can’t learn some things from the outing, but you need to keep it in the proper context, most of his outings this year he pitched better then the Niese that you saw that particular day.
And F-Mart is less then a month back from a hamstring injury, so to say he has a poor work ethic because he’s not giving 110% in Sprints is kinda unfair.
by adropofvenom on Jul 20, 2008 2:13 PM EDT 0 recs










