Chris Carter (oak)
by Asfan4ever723 on Jul 14, 2008 12:18 AM EDT
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Printwhat is your opinion on this likely DH, but part time OF/3b?
came over in the haren deal, but earlier was traded for carlos quentin (great trade for white sox)
he was rated as a fringe top 100 guy by BP. he has those "old skills", power, obp, etc. doesnt hit for a high avg/k's alot. he is a huge guy, but not a great athlete and without a position. sounds like jack cust lol.
but since june he's hitting .330+, cut down the k's. i dont know if its a coincidence but when they moved him out of DH, his offense improved.
turns 22 at the end of the season.
is he legit or a produt of the cal league 25hr/70+rbi?
so is he just one of those minor league sluggers that may fade away at higher levels or do you see him having a chance w/ that power/obp combo?
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maybe a major leaguer but not likely a star
Strikes me as a bit of a Chris Davis wannabe, except doesn’t hit for nearly the same average and at 22 is doing this in high A instead of having already torched the entire minors and established a beach head in the majors. The strikeouts are pretty fearsome and his doing this in Cal League raised further questions. Still, he is hitting more hrs than anyone else in the Cal League and while he’s not especially young for his league he is also not especially old. At least in my opinion if he is top 100 at all its definitely the last 10 or 20 slots on the list.
yes at the end
90. Max Scherzer, rhp, Diamondbacks
91. Casey Weathers, rhp, Rockies
92. Dexter Fowler, of, Rockies
93. Wladimir Balentien, of, Mariners
94. Neil Walker, 3b, Pirates
95. Michael Bowden, rhp, Red Sox
96. Joe Savery, lhp, Phillies
97. Ben Revere, of, Twins
98. Trevor Cahill, rhp, Athletics
99. Chris Carter, 1b, Athletics
100. Lars Anderson, 1b, Red Sox
by Asfan4ever723 on Jul 14, 2008 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
He's 21.
He will turn 22 in December. For the record, 10 players in the California league with 200+ AB have a seasonal age lower than his. http://minors.baseball-reference.com/bat_leaders.cgi?yid=2008&lvl=A%20&lid=CAL&sort=age
I would wait until he starts hitting well at a higher level
Many prospects hit very well in the California league before losing alot of status when they hit AA or higher. That being said, he is hitting very well even considering the context of the league he is in. Stockton is not one of the extreme hitters parks in the league also.
If he can keep the K% down at AA while maintaining around the same OBP, his stock should jump. Right now would be the time to promote him, even if he is relatively young for the league, because he is just hitting for fun with those #s(realistically he has a chance at matching Brandon Wood’s 2005 California league #s if they keep him there the whole season).
by tdot mariner fan on Jul 14, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
He has about 50 days
(out of about 150 in the minor league season) left. So his pace is for about 37 HR… slightly less than Wood.
Still damn impressive, though. He might have the best raw power of any legitimate prospect in the entire minors. And he’s showing improvement—he was really poor in April and May but since June 1, he’s hitting over .300 and has cut down on his strikeouts.
I still think I leave him in Stockton to finish out the year, because when he and Doolittle are on the same team they start interfering with each other’s playing time. Next year they can each move up a level.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
Stockton is not a hitter's park overall, but it's an extreme HR park.
The A's colors are green and gold.
I've seen that mentioned before, and I'm still trying to figure out how that's possible
Physically, I mean.
Does it have foul territory the size of Texas? That’s about the only explanation I can come up with.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
Banner Island Ballpark
It’s 300 foot to left field. And just looking at pictures the foul ground is nothing extreme. Average to below average, would be my guess.
So, I can’t imagine how it wouldn’t be an extreme batter’s park.
But it's not an extreme batter's park, that's the point
Run scoring there is not particularly high, despite the high HR totals. Something about the park depresses other forms of hitting enough to compensate for the homers. I just can’t figure out how that’s possible.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
There are other more extreme parks for HRs in the league
You are corect, I thought High Desert and Lancaster were the worst ones but according to the baseballthinkfactory 2007 park factors, Stockton has a 1.34 compared to 1.2 in Lancaster or 1.15 in High Desert.
by tdot mariner fan on Jul 15, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Watched Chris Carter in Kannapolis
He was head and shoulders the best player on the field and the ball just exploded off his bat as he swung and tattooed every first pitch he saw during the game. He had great size, but was a bit awkward on the bases and at first base. He may never hit much higher than .260 in the bigs, but the 30+ HR power is VERY real. He was the most impressive player I watched in that league last season.
Mike N.
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Were McGwire, Pujols, Piazza, Thomas, Howard and Fielder not legitimate prospects then? Also Flowers has a 50% SB success rate – hardly “showing a feel for the game, and knowing that even with fringe speed and athleticism, a player has the recognition to be able to pick his spots and steal a base in a critical situation.”
So basically. . .
Ryan Howard, Mark McGwire, Adam Dunn, Frank Thomas, Cecil Fielder, Prince Fielder, David Ortiz are all players who you wouldn’t want on your team. You are JP Ricciardi. What do I win?
by clubberlang on Jul 15, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
some props for aaron cunningham
missed a month of the season + most of spring training due to wrist injury
had a tough july + needs to get his k’s in check
but on fire since
Carter vs. Doolittle
Considering that Carter walks a little more than Doolittle, and K’s slightly less (still a lot, I know), and considering the way Carter has hit in June and July, I’m thinking I might like him a little better than Doolittle.
Doolittle has an edge on Carter
mainly because Doolittle is considered a very good defensive 1B, especially compared to Carter.
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question for variablesdont
are these arguements that you are making serious? because i’m having a hard time figuring out if you’re trying to be sarcastic/funny or serious about these “policies” that would govern a team if you were running it.
27 Homers
Carter hit another one last night. On Pace to hit 40+
May: 179/304/326
June: 319/452/714
July: 357/390/821
Stolen base rule
If your SB rule is intended as satire then I applaud you. If you are being serious then…, well, I’m not quite sure what to say…
Stolen bases and foot speed
Showing you have the ability to steal bases, means you are a little more athletic and you have the foot speed necessary to play the game.
Baseball is still considered a sport and if I have two midlevel prospects with the ability to hit for power, I’d take the guy with the ability to run the bases and is basically more athletic than a one-dimensional slug who can only hit for power.
While you may not be expecting certain types of players to be stealing bases, you don’t want them to run like Bengie Molina [or a reasonable facsimile of him].
Just to delve into a related subject, maybe for all of Oakland’s success in the decade, one of things they have consciously overlooked is guys who can run the bases.
Maybe it has contributed to their lack of success in the playoffs. It doesn’t mean they had to sign slap-hitting, low on-base guys who can steal bases on a whim.
As an organization however, it might have helped them to have a team with guys who can run a little and know what they are doing as opposed to the Jack Custs of the world.
I don't think SB's automatically mean someone knows or doesn't know how to run the bases.
You can know how to run the bases, or be athletic, or have speed and NOT steal bases. Likewise, there are a lot of players who have speed, and steal a lot, who have absolutly no clue when they are on the basepaths, and only get SB numbers because they outrun the throw.
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It is also the ability
To make it more clear – I’d want to have someone who can run the bases and who can advance from first to third on a base hit to the outfield. I wouldn’t want to have a station to station base runner, even if my team is built around the three-run home run or on-base percentage.
No one wants more Alex Sanchez or Ruben Rivera types – they seem to fit the mold of athletic guys who are capable of stealing bases, but seem to lack something ‘up top.’
My point was just that Baserunning Ability =/= Stealing Bases
You can be slow and be a good baserunner. The trick is knowing when to run, being quick about doing so, and making instant decisions on the basepaths.
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+1
Cristian Guzman during his time with the twins was never a big base stealer, but he was widely considered the best baserunner in baseball at the time for how he ran the bases, often stretching a double to a triple or going first to third on a routine single when he was on base…..
by biggentleben on Jul 20, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
They have guys with good footspeed
But that’s where you’re wrong. The A’s have had guys who run the bases well and have good footspeed. Jay Payton, Terrance Long, Bobby Crosby, Mark Ellis, Eric Chavez, Miguel Tejada, Eric Byrnes, Mark Kotsay, Marco Scutaro, and even Jose Guillen all had more than serviceable or great footspeed.
Of course looking at the SB numbers you wouldn’t see that, but they definitely could steal bases if they wanted to. They just didn’t do it very often.
by nobodyinparticular on Jul 22, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
false dichotomy
It’s not as if you always have a choice between great hitters with no speed and great hitters with great speed. Now given a choice between slow guys who can hit and fast guys who can’t, yes the A’s have chosen the guys who can hit. But it’s not as if they chose Cust when they could have had Beltran at the same price. It’s more like they chose Cust and Payton over Juan Pierre.
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