Controversial Prospects Ideas
by John Sickels on Jun 8, 2008 12:11 PM EDT
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PrintThis week I want to revisit the concept of controversial prospects, guys who generate different opinions from various observers and analysts. I want to see how these players are doing so far this year. The first guy who comes to mind is Tyler Robertson. Who else should we look at? Make suggestions in this thread please.
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Michael Brantley
Consistent .300/.400/<.400 hitter in the minors until this year. One of John’s favorite sleepers, but BA had him at #24 in the system. Has really taken off this year, hitting .342/.421/.429 at Huntsville. Has three HR on the season, all in the past ten games, which exceeds his career total up until that point (2).
He's extremely quick and good.
I should also note
Brantley has cut down his already-low strikeout levels to a ridiculous 13 in 240 ABs.
He's extremely quick and good.
2 young guys
Deolis Guerra
Carlos Triunfel
The Dodgers won't win a playoff series until the Cool-a-Coo returns.
Brandon Wood and Neil Walker
two ‘love them or hate them’ 3B
Well
If you’ve even looked at the 09 top prospect thread, Trevor Cahill generates a lot of discussion.
Also, Bumgarner, Julio Borbon.
Bumgarner?
Is there a meaningful contingent of fans who are actually down on Bumgarner?
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club
Check out his improvement
from month to month, though June has just started. Impressive.
...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.
Guys
Brandon Wood
Cameron Maybin
Reid Brignac
Colby Rasmus
Buster Posey
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift
by King Billy Royal on Jun 8, 2008 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
Brandon Wood
He’d be interesting to do. Maybin’s a bit rehashed, we just had a diary on Posey and Rasmus seems to be rebounding. Reid Brignac might be interesting too.
Brett Gardner is one
Bourn tanking in Houston can’t help his cause, but Gardner is getting a few more extra base hits this season.
by number_twentyone on Jun 8, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions
Carlos Gomez despite being in the majors
Upside, Downside of Gomez needs to be discussed.
How bout the A's 1st basemen
Long term success?
Sean Doolittle or Chris Carter
Charlie Morton
The next James Shields with a curveball or a flash in the pan.
Eric Duncan
resurgence for real or will he sink back into old ways?
--http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Bobby Mcnally (alias) "Whatever the mind of man can conceive and believe, it can achieve."--Napoleon Hall
Resurgence?
He had an ok April, then more of the same.
by number_twentyone on Jun 8, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilkin Ramirez
Toolsy Tigers prospect, always thought to have potential, but never did much and was consistently banged up. Had a nice (healthy) run in AA this year, recently bumped to AAA.
Michael Bowden
Lots of talk about a hitch in his wind up, and that he doesn not have dominating stuff, that he is a Jeff Suppan type. Still he had a long stretch where he dominated Lancaster last yearm a terrible place for pitchers, and he is putting together a nice run in Portland, while being one of the youngest guys in AA.
So what is he? Suppan or more of a Mussina?
Hard to call him Mussina
remember, Mussina had a good FB when he first came up. That’s why those Ian Kennedy comparisons were making me cringe.
by number_twentyone on Jun 8, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Two Way Players....
Guys like Kyle Drabek, Ethan Martin, etc. Also ambidexterous athletes.
I've got a McPheever, and only JoJo Reyes can help me!
i like
the brignac idea…. also i’d love to see how you think about the defense discussions… max ramirez, great hitter but what about defense, same with clement and gamel…. im sure there are a bunch of guys who smash but just can’t field that I can’t think of.
"If you were a hot dog, would you eat yourself?"
controversial Brewers prospects...
in every sense of the word: Salome and Jeffress. Salome has had an unbelievable year behind the plate, and Jeffress has had one terrible outing and a number of great outings since his return.
Curious to see if John thinks these guys are Top 100 guys should they go the rest of the season without drug/PED issues…thanks!
Blake Wood
plus stuff but hasn’t pitched much up until this year, where he’s been fairly dominant.
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club
Schafer, Heyward, Clement, Gio Gonzalez, Eric Hurley, Austin Jackson, Tabata, Ian Kennedy...
All would be interesting to hear about a real indept dissection of their stats and thier scouting reports
Angel Villalona
Surprised he wasn’t mentioned yet.
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.
Felix Doubront
59/7 K/BB in 57 IP with 55 H allowed for Greenville in the Sally League, but according to Sox Prospects, he only tops out at 91 MPH.
He's extremely quick and good.
Danny Valencia
John should have a well-informed opinion on this one. Good track record, hitting .343/.407/.531, but old for his league.
He's extremely quick and good.
mixed bag
carmen angelini
brandon wood
anthony swarzak
alexei ramirez (though he’s in the majors)
andy laroche
cody haerther
Desmond Jennings
Just got back from injuries, tearing it up so far (.607 OBP!)
Just wanna hear some upside and floor talk on him
+1
He sort of was forgotten by folks while he was hurt, and now he’s back and looks like the player he was, except now with Weglarz-esque OBP skills.
Allen Craig
most write him off as an organizational player, but last season you made a quick mention about believing in his skills, I’d like to hear more.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
A few more
Carlos Rosa of KC, Nick Weglarz in Cleveland…
JAS
A few names
Jesus Montero, Tyler Clippard, De Los Santos (now injured, what do you expect of him) and Elijah Dukes.
Volstad
all those bats he doesn’t miss and all that success he’s had…
Some Cubs that may fit
Eric Patterson – There’s a heavy portion of Cub fanshat are high on him, and then there are many that don’t think he’ll amount to much.
Jeff Samardzija – Some really odd metrics to stuff. I don’t know if he’s controversial in terms of grades, but more controversial in terms of status in some respects.
Cahill, Hellickson, Bowden
are the three pitchers I’ve seen the most debate out.
I’m still on the fence about Maybin, but he’s no longer a shiny new toy so maybe everything about him has been written.
The other name is Andrew McCutchen since he’s all of a sudden developed power.
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Mat Gamel is plenty controversial, and his performance dictates some kind of piece regardless.
OT - prospect smackdown...
sorry, this is off topic –
but a while ago you thought that a good prospect smackdown would be will inman vs. chris volstad.
I agree.
Wholeheartedly.
Any Yankee Prospect
The title speaks for itself.
Neftali Feliz
Looking great in the MWL. Is it real? Or just a velocity mirage, and he winds up as a reliever?
Josh Banks
As of right now, he is the poster child for the “needs a change of scenery” argument. Does venue have a lot to do with his success in San Diego thus far?
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