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Hypothetical 2005 Washington Nationals

This following roster for the 2005 Washington Nationals assumes what the roster could've looked like if no players departed via free agency or trades.  In order to qualify, players must have originally signed with Washington as an international signing or through the amateur draft.

Please note that this post is meant to generate discussion on each teams' ability to develop and/or sign homegrown talent.  This team is fictional, and details like its economic feasability should be ignored.

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Everyday Lineup:
CF Grady Sizemore
SS Orlando Cabrera
LF Jason Bay
RF Vlad Guerrero
C Michael Barrett
1B Jose Vidro
3B Ryan Zimmerman
2B Brandon Phillips
P Spot

Bench:
OF/1B Brad Wilkerson
3B Geoff Blum
OF Milton Bradley
OF Cliff Floyd
C Brian Schneider
2B/SS Mark Grudzielanek

Rotation:
Randy Johnson
Javier Vazquez
John Patterson
Cliff Lee
Shawn hill

Bullpen:
LR Kirk Rueter
LR Darrell Rasner
MR Jay Bergmann
MR Wes Littleton
SU Scott Strickland
CL Chad Cordero

Offense: My immediate observation of Washington's roster is the glut of outfield talent available.  Washington's bench outfielders (Bradley, Floyd, Wilkerson) could be better than most team's starters, and a few that had to be left off (Jerry Owens, Marquis Grissom, Rondell White) also could start for some teams.  As it stands, a starting outfield of Sizemore, Bay, and Vlad would agruably have the most offensive potential of any in the major leagues.  Jose Vidro plays slightly out of position (mainly a second baseman, but has played sparingly at first) because the only other first baseman (Brad Fullmer) retired in 2004.  Zimmerman makes a quick ascent to the starting lineup, Barrett provides solid offensive production at a premium position, and O-Cab is a solid contributor offensively and defensively.  One important note is that Brandon Phillips is placed in the 8 hole because in 2005 he had yet to show much offensive production, but he too will develop into one of the best offensive middle infielders in the game.

Bench: The aforementioned depth of the outfield is the obvious strength of this unit - this Washington team could regularly cycle its outfielders to give breathers to some of its aging stars, assuming of course Milton Bradley doesn't go postal on hearing the idea.  Blum and Grudzielanek provide infield depth, and Brian Schneider backs up Barrett.

Rotation: Health and age are the only factors that may keep this rotation from being one of the better staffs in all of baseball.  I believe Randy Johnson's plaque for Cooperstown is being minted as we speak, and John Patterson has shown the capability of being an above average starting pitcher if he could only stay healthy.  Javier Vazquez has been one of the more consistent starting pitchers in recent years, while you never know what version of Cliff Lee you're getting in any given year and Shawn Hill rounds out the rotation.

Bullpen: The age extremes of this bullpen is interesting - Rueter and Strickland will be playing in their last major league seasons, while everyone else has two years or less of ML experience (Littleton technically didn't make his ML debut until 2006 but would have been theoretically the best option coming out of camp).  Cordero was already developing into one of the NL's best closers in his first full season, but the rest of the pen is hardly an inspiring bunch.

The Montreal/Washington franchise has been well documented for habitually trading away its best talent before they cost the organization too much (perhaps setting the example for Florida's fire sales?) and this example showcases that the organization's scouting directors (which consistently get lambasted for having thin minor league systems) should not be at fault, but rather the executive staff and the circumstances surrounding the team's past 'contraction' should to blame.

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On second thought, how do you handle loophole guys? Not that it will matter much.

Also I’d put Orlando Cabrera at SS, Phillips at 2B and bench Grudz.

by aap212 on Jun 27, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drafted by the Expos...

In the first round of the 1996 draft. He later signed as a FA with Arizona then traded back to Washington.

by Grudyfan on Jun 27, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot about Cabrera

International signings were a little harder to research, I finished this roster before using baseball-reference to double check all amateur signings

by Grudyfan on Jun 27, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Also Charles Johnson isn't fair...

If you give Johnson to the Expos, you reward them for not signing a draft pick. Patterson was an odd case, but if you give Johnson to the Expos, do you give Tim Lincecum to the Indians? Do you give JD Drew to the Phillies?

by aap212 on Jun 27, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

My bad about Johnson

Clearly didn’t see the “did not sign” after being drafted by Montreal

by Grudyfan on Jun 27, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Montreal was actually the first of these rosters I put together, and I didn’t double check everyone like I should have like I did with the Seattle/San Fran rosters. Charles Johsnon will be removed.

by Grudyfan on Jun 27, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice work

I really like the choice of the Nats here – they may be the best recent example of great talent / bad ability to retain.

Be sure to add Larry Kenneth Robert Walker to your squad in 2005, along with his .886 OPS.

by siddfynch on Jun 27, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Walker

I was thinking of including Larry Walker, but the 2005 version of Walker (as good as it was) was one of the unfortunate outfielders left off along with Jerry Owens, Marquis Grissom, and Rondell White. Which just comes to show you how incredible their OF depth would have been for a long time.

by Grudyfan on Jun 27, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Walker over Bradley

If we have to choose based on years, then Bradley takes a seat on the bench. Bradley didn’t do squat in 2004, whereas Walker was very strong in limited duty. Walker then played more the Bradley in 2005 and outperformed him.

by siddfynch on Jun 28, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's pretty close

Walker was still a good performer in his 2005 season, but at this point in his career he was becoming (due to age and injuries) a defensive liability and couldn’t hit lefties (.214) very well. With a power lefty bat in Cliff Floyd (34 HRs in 2005) already ahead of him, I figured Bradley’s switch-hitting capability and defensive upgrades would be more valuable off the bench. Bradley was hardly an offensive liability as well, as a .834 OPS for a fifith outfielder is nothing to sneeze at. One could make the argument that Wilkerson might be the expendable one too, but his defensive versatility (especially since this Washington team doesn’t have a true firstbaseman) I thought was needed. The point is, this franchise has at least 10 outfielders that could be everyday players on most teams.

by Grudyfan on Jun 28, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good points

I didn’t even mention Wilkerson, since I figured he had to be in there for 1B. Cliff Floyd can’t really pass the red-faced test there, since he hadn’t played it since the prior century.

by siddfynch on Jun 28, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I plan on Minnesota's roster being next

Which might a gratuitious way in trying to appeal to Mr. Sickels. So sue me. I’ve also had requests for Oakland, the Chicago, Cubs, Boston, and the Yankees. I’ll try to do about one a day (a la Mr. Sickels) so as to not dilute the fanposts with excessive hypothetical rosters.

by Grudyfan on Jun 28, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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