Controversial Prospect: Ben Revere
One of the big surprises on Draft Day 2007 was Ben Revere, selected in the first round 28th overall by the Twins. A high school outfielder from Lexington, Kentucky, Revere was rated as a second round or third round talent by most teams. He is a terrific athlete with blazing speed, excellent makeup, and was considered relatively polished for a high school hitter, but he's undersized at 5-9, 165. That concern and questions about how his power would look against pro pitching kept him out of first round consideration....except for the Twins.
Some believed this was a signability and budget pick, and indeed Revere's $750,000 bonus was below slot for the first round. Comparisons to Denard Span, another young speed demon first rounder who never panned out, were inevitable. But the Twins insisted that Revere was the guy they wanted, and right now their decision looks inspired.
Revere had a nice rookie ball debut, hitting .325/.388/.461 with an incredible 10 triples. He stole 21 bases in 50 games, though being caught nine times showed some need for polish. I gave him a Grade B in the book this year, which is high praise for a rookie ball guy.
Revere began 2008 in extended spring training, but he joined full-season Class A Beloit in late April and has been on a tear ever since. In 44 games, he's hitting .413/.463/.565 with 22 steals. Althougn not a walk machine (14 BB), he's struck out just 15 times in 184 at-bats and scouts are drooling over his contact hitting ability. He's hit just one homer, but his 13 doubles and six triples are not all due to speed, he's showing some legitimate pop. His OPS is a robust 1.028...obviously strong, but keep in mind that the Midwest League league OPS is a mere .689. His OPS+ is 149.
Revere does have some weaknesses. He has the tools to be a fine defender, but isn't there yet, already making seven errors on the season. He has been caught stealing 11 times and must improve his read on pitchers to get the most out of his running speed. He was not a young senior and is already 20 years old. However, given his exceptional makeup, intelligence, and work ethic, it seems likely that his deficiencies can be corrected.
I don't think he'll ever be a big home run guy, but if he maintains this level of hitting skill he could be a batting champion someday in the mold of Ichiro Suzuki. Other possible comps would include Ralph Garr or Luis Polonia, or possibly Brett Butler if Revere can boost his walk rate at higher levels.
Alhough we obviously need to see how things pan out in the coming years, Revere has to this point certainly justified his selection. My own Shadow Draft fake Twins first rounder last year, RHP Nevin Griffith, just came out of extended spring training for the White Sox...he pitched well in his first start for Great Falls. But at this point I would rather have picked Revere.
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I saw Ben play when the Snappers when down to the Quad Cities last weekend. Your right John, he does have some power. the triple I saw him hit, was a 400 footer just over the center fielders head. At the plate he took advantage of every mistake and used all parts of the field. His swing was really smooth, and he looked like a major leaguer at the plate. His fielding was another story. He took some bad routes, late jumps, and his arm was nothing to write home about. I think maybe a position switch to second could do him some good, but I’m sure his fielding at center can be improved over time.
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by maxisagod on Jun 22, 2008 10:48 AM EDT 0 recs
How much longer in Beloit?
When you do you think that Revere should move up to Fort Myers? After the all start break? 2009?
by DavidFoss on Jun 22, 2008 1:37 PM EDT 0 recs
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I’d leave him there through the end of July and move him up to fort myers in August if he keeps hitting like this. He’s still very inexperienced and needs to polish up the fielding and baserunning.
by John Sickels on
Jun 22, 2008 2:42 PM EDT
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revere
carlos gomez
Alexi Casilla
Ben Revere
Aaron Hicks
Future of twins should have some really good speed in the lineup. I like it. Now we need another HR hitter or two.
by hotshotschamp on Jun 22, 2008 6:09 PM EDT 0 recs
Twins Future
With a lineup consisting of Gomez leading off, Revere hitting 2nd, Mauer 3rd, and Morneau 5th, the Twins have an incredibly exciting lineup in the future.
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by King Billy Royal on Jun 22, 2008 6:36 PM EDT 0 recs
Wondering...
what are the M&M Boys’ contract situations? Have they been given longer term deals? I seem to remember Morneau being given one, but I’m not sure. Just wondering because it’s possible that neither of the M&M Boys will still be in Minny by the time Revere is ready for the majors.
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by Boxkutter on
Jun 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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Signed long term
Mauer is signed through 2010. Morneau is signed through 2012 with an option for 2013.
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by cmathewson on
Jun 23, 2008 1:27 AM EDT
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I figured so...
So unless Mauer signs a longer deal, or Revere speeds through the minors, they will never be in the line-up together. And it’s possible that Morneau and Revere are only together for a short time. Of course, it’s always possible that Revere flames out and never sees AAA too.
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by Boxkutter on
Jun 23, 2008 1:57 AM EDT
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They'll extend Mauer
It will cost them. But they will extend him, probably next year.
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by cmathewson on
Jun 23, 2008 9:54 PM EDT
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Gomez should be 9 hitter
won’t even draw 20 walks this year.
by Bravesin07 on
Jun 22, 2008 9:11 PM EDT
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Backwards thinking
Why do you have to draw walks if you are hitting over 400? Should he stop getting hits just so he can take walks? You want a top OBP guy leading-off. Who cares if they come from walks or hits.
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by Boxkutter on
Jun 22, 2008 9:17 PM EDT
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Shoot, I was thinking of Revere when I wrote that lol
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by Boxkutter on
Jun 22, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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not quite
He’s not going to be a 400 hitter in the majors. Even if he hits 320 in the majors his OPB would still only be about 370. That’s putting a lot of pressure on yourself to put up above average OBP numbers without walking.
by Flasportsfan88 on
Jul 1, 2008 3:16 AM EDT
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12 in 70 games
You do the math Braves. Does that project to less than 20?
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by King Billy Royal on
Jun 22, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
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THE BRITISH ARE COMMING THE BRITISH ARE COMMING!!
oh wait.. BEN Rever? ;)
speaking of fast small guys that didn’t hit for power …. did you ever see Kirby Puckett’s transformation comming John?
by RollingWave on Jun 23, 2008 5:01 AM EDT 0 recs
puckett/power
Not really…lol….I thought he would be a potential batting champ, maybe hit 10-15 homers. But 20-30? Didn’t expect that and I don’t think anyone else did either.
by John Sickels on
Jun 23, 2008 11:04 AM EDT
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Denard Span
He quietly has a .341/.452 /.496 line at AAA, and is still just 24.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jun 23, 2008 5:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Yeah
I was going to point that out. He seems to have turned a corner, which started late last year. I would be surprised if he’s still in AAA at the All-Star break.
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by cmathewson on
Jun 23, 2008 9:56 PM EDT
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Where?
Are you saying because of an injury, because someone else will be getting let go or sent down, or are you saying either with the Twins or with someone else? Span seems to be a odd man out, with no one, at this point, he can out play for a spot with the Twins.
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by maxisagod on
Jun 24, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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