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MLB's Push to Speed up Games

Not sure if anyone saw, but Ron Gardenhire and Cecil Cooper were both fined by MLB for failing to keep the pace of the game moving.  I can't speak for the Houston situation, but I know the Gardenhire fine stems froma  game last weekend in Milwaukee.  In the 8th inning of a game the Twins were trailing 3-2 and with an 0-2 count, Brendan Harris called for time, but homeplate umpire Brian Runge didn't grant it.  However, he shifted his stance so Harris looked at him to see if he was granting the time, and Guillermo Mota proceeded to throw strike three to end the inning.  Harris wasn't even looking at the pitch and could have been hurt had Mota thrown something inside.  Gardy came out and argued and of course got ejected. Runge claimed he was just enforcing MLB's directive to keep games moving.

Curious as to this group's thoughts on the league being so gung-ho on reducing game times that they can't even grant time to a batter late in a close game.  Does this bother anyone else?  It's bad enough that it happened in the game, then the league actually goes out and fines Gardy?  Twins are near the top of the league in quickest average game time.  It seems pretty ridiculous. 

The beauty of baseball is the strategy, the battles, not the pace of the game. 

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Correction

Correction…it was the first out of the inning, not to end the inning. My bad.

by purppride1 on Jun 18, 2008 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

The illusion of the slowed-down game

You know, it’s not guys taking time to prepare or anything like that that’s slowing down games. It’s the ridiculous delays between innings that are laden with commercial sponsors. Pitchers warm up with eight pitches and they’re good to go. That takes a little more than one minute. I don’t know how much time commercials take up between innings, but it must be three minutes at least. Add that up over the course of a game and that’s at least an extra half an hour over nine innings.

If they’re responsible for the problem, corporate interests are always going to try to misdirect ordinary people’s attention from the real cause. In the 1960s and 1970s the whole crying Indian pollution commercial campaign was to make people think that their dumping trash by the roadside was the biggest environmental problem, when in reality it was big business that was creating places like Love Canal and the burning Cuyahoga River in Ohio. So MLB will do anything to make you think dawdling players are the biggest problem. And sure, it’s an issue, but it’s not a half-hour-extra-a-game issue.

MLB’s gotta pay the bills, so I’m not entirely angry about the commercial breaks and they’re a great time to get fed or take a break or whatever. I just wish they’d be a little more honest about the problem.

by Flynn Blake on Jun 18, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I completely agree with everything you wrote.

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by marcello on Jun 18, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

The commercial breaks in the baseball games I watch, not postseason games but regular season ones, are about a minute—significantly shorter than “normal” commercials.

Hate to say it, but it really is the on-field action, or lack thereof, that’s slowed the games down. Some pitchers are just glacial—Rafael Betancourt

takes

about

half

a

minute

between every pitch. And god forbid he steps off or shakes off the sign, or it’ll take another half a minute.

He’s the worst offender I can think of, but there are plenty of others. And then there are the hitters who readjust their batting gloves after every bloody pitch. I mean, come on.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Jun 18, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steve Trachsel

Would like to show you a few of his finest performances.

"...and the only things I've found better than listening to Vin Scully are listening to Keith Jackson and uncut cocaine." (bleedjaxblue)

by drjayphd on Jun 18, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

A minute isn’t right, it’s at least 2, maybe 3 for each half inning. That’s about 45 minutes of time right there. Plus pitching changes, which have to average somewhere around 5 a game (guesstimate). So that’s close to an hour of commercial time during a game which is slotted for 3 hours, which is about the same as normal tv shows, 8/30.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Jun 18, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

but I think most of that time would happen anyways. It’s not like those changes (pitching, inning, etc) would be instantaneous without television. There are natural pauses in the game that happen. Maybe TV has caused them to be a little longer, but not by more than 60 seconds each I am guessing. 90 at most.

I think baseball is trying to crack down on players slowing down the game. Batters calling time after every pitch to grab, tug, and rearrange every article of clothing. Pitchers walking around the mound after every pitch, things like that.

"My mom always taught me it's better to laugh at yourself than to laugh at others. She was so wrong. ;)" -Pedrophile

by Boxkutter on Jun 18, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I clocked this last night

Compared an A’s game to a Seinfeld rerun.

90 second break for the A’s game, 150 seconds for Seinfeld.

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by PaulThomas on Jun 19, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

umps shouldn't grant time

Stand in the box and take your cuts. And pitchers, don’t paw around behind the rubber or throw to first when the runner is a big, fat DH. When people say baseball games take too long, they don’t mean commercial breaks, they mean there’s no flow—the action stops and starts too much to build momentum or intensity or excitement. It wasn’t always like that.

by whichthat on Jun 18, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

hi, i'm baseball....

have we met?!

have you honestly ever played the game? as a former pitcher, throw overs are absolutely needed….as a batter, if you don’t feel right about being at the plate, it’s just as bad as going up to the plate drunk or with someone else’s bat….you need to make sure you’re ready at the plate, likewise at the mound….i worked fast when i was pitching, but that was from the catcher throwing me the ball to me being back on the mound to throw…i routinely threw over to keep a runner close as i had a slow motion to the plate, however, and without throw overs, i’d have had runners going rampant on me when they got on….

all this is part of the game….a game that has more history than many things we consider hallowed and sacred in this country….a game that many of us, regardless of age, love for all the rights and wrongs of the game for nearly 150 years….if all baseball is to you is a fantasy game to play each spring, you’re never going to understand the actual game….

by biggentleben on Jun 19, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

who

Who the hell is crying about games taking too long?

Go Pirates!!!

by cool hand Charlie on Jun 19, 2008 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Casual fans. MLB doesn’t care about hardcore fans because they know we’re already banked, so pretty much everything they do is to rope in the casual fans.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Jun 19, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

correct

but just because we are hardcore doesn’t mean the average game time isn’t far too long. Not pointing at you. But the game IS taking too long.

The NL has been around far longer than the AL and had double switches etc. And still averaged 2.5 or less before. Now it’s far slower. Part of it is pitchers trying to strike everyone out and we can’t change this nor should we. But there is too much intentional slowing down of the game.

Teams will not have a reliever getting warmed up because they know they can delay and get the reliever warmed up while they are delaying. Why not take advantage if you can? But the umps shouldn’t let this go. It’s their job to enforce. It’s the MLB’s job to set clear mandates. Something they are famous for not doing. Do it and stick with it. Oh, and send Bud on a one way trip somewhere. Anywhere.

by pedrophile on Jun 19, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

ps:

as an off-topic: I love Cuban cigars!

by pedrophile on Jun 19, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

the fact that baseball is a much slower paced game than the other sports, so a youngster looking for a sport to follow is going to gravitate to football or basketball before baseball. 3 hour games + slow pace = boredom for newbies. If you can trim that by half an hour, that would be huge.

by Flynn Blake on Jun 19, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umpires

This is at least the second example this season where an umpire has failed to use common sense.

Here the umpire shifted as if he were going to call time, then didn’t. He certainly isn’t required to grant time out, but once he makes a motion that could confuse the batter into believing he is going to do so, he should go ahead and grant the time out.

There would be nothing to prevent him from calling both managers out - or merely yelling to each bench - to inform them such time outs may not be granted in the future. In fact, the umpires should have mentioned it when the lineup cards were handed in.

But no umpire wants to unfairly affect the outcome of a game, and it sounds as if the lack of common sense affected this one.

It would also seem that MLB should have contacted the managers directly to spread the word. Not merely via e-mail or other memo, but by telephone.

Incidentally, the other episode that comes to mind is one in which Tim Lincecum started his windup as Bengie Molina jumped up out of his crouch raising his arms and requesting time. Umpire Gary Darling also raised his own arms in the traditional “time out” gesture, but instead of calling time out, called a balk.

Lincecum had stopped his motion when Molina jumped up, which would indeed be a balk if time out hadn’t been called. But since Lincecum didn’t deliver the pitch, there was no reason for Darling to himself make the “time out” motion if he wished to call a balk instead of calling time out.

At best, Darling committed his own balk on the play. Once again, common sense didn’t prevail. If Darling was confused into committing a “balk,” wasn’t it reasonable to assume that the confusion also had something to do with Lincecum’s “balk?” If the action confused Darling, why didn’t he just call time out and start anew?

Oh, and today Lincecum’s last out was a strike out on which the batter didn’t even come CLOSE to going around, yet was called for a swinging strike three by Bill Welke, the home plate umpire. One of the worst calls I’ve ever seen.

Maybe the protocol doesn’t allow for the home plate umpire to ask another umpire for help when he himself DOES call it a strike. But as today’s case indicated, it most certainly SHOULD. Keep in mind that no one roots harder for Lincecum than I do, but I don’t want him to receive an unfair advantage, and this was a horribly egregious example of a situation in which he did.

The thing I would ask the umpires is, isn’t the object to get the call RIGHT? That is a rhetorical question, of course, but while the umpires do consult more than they used to, they still don’t consult enough.

By far the most important factor in officiating is ANGLE—and the guy with the primary responsibility for the call doesn’t always have it. If that is the case, why SHOULDN’T he consult with his fellow umpires? Are they out there merely to pick their noses if the call is in another umpire’s “area?”

Get the call RIGHT, guys. The more often you do so, the less the need for instant replay. Baseball is really a comparitively simple game to officiate. Almost all decisions are made at the four bases—and a high percentage are made at the plate.

The decision made at the plate today wasn’t correct. Nor was the one in Lincecum’s last start where the go-ahead run was called safe at the plate even though replays showed that Ivan Rodriguez had been tagged on the shirt before touching home plate.

On that play, the home plate umpire tried to come out from behind the plate to get the proper angle, but he was late in reading the play and got caught just where he didn’t want to be—both blocked and moving. Naturally he didn’t want to get caught in either situation, but he actually got caught in both.

This got me to thinking: On plays at the plate on throws from the outfield, why not have the first base umpire move in to bracket the plate. Between them, the home plate and first base umpires should be able to get a good angle.

I realize baseball doesn’t think this way. IN fact, sometimes I wonder if they truly think. But if you’re going to stick the umpire behind the plate on plays there as baseball does, you’ve got to teach your umpires how to read plays better so they can get the proper angle.

Or how about this for a novel approach? Why not have the umpire move to the spot - probably at a 90 degree angle to the front edge of home plate, just slightly down the third-base line - where he thinks the play is most likely to grant the best angle, and an angle that he can easily adjust as he reads the play, rather than having to come all the way out from behind the plate?

IMO baseball umpires have among the easiest jobs among the officials in the various sports—and yet they seem to make far more mistakes than they should. Part of the problem seems to me that they don’t work hard enough for angles and that they don’t work together well enough as a TEAM.

Whenever I myself officiate a sport, it is my goal that my partner(s) and I form the best team on the field. In the major leagues, that far too often isn’t the case.

by sharksrog on Jun 23, 2008 12:43 AM EDT reply actions  

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