High School Pitchers of Interest for 2008 Draft
Here is a look at the top high school pitchers for the 2008 draft. As with the hitters, I haven't seen these guys in person and my impressions are based on scouting reports, video, and intuition. Right now there doesn't seem to be any knockout Josh Beckett types in this draft; even the top arms have some question marks.
I am working on my draft board and will have an early version of it for you on Saturday. These reports have focused mostly on guys who could go in the first round or in the supplemental round, and as we get closer to draft day I will mix in more guys from later in the draft.
Here are high school pitchers who could go in the first round:
1) Tim Melville, RHP, Missouri HS: Opinion of him dipped a tad after an erratic start but he's been better lately and still rates as the best overall high school arm available according to virtually all sources. Big guy at 6-5, 200. Works in the low 90s and projects more velocity as he refines his mechanics. Shows a fine knuckle-curve, at times, but it needs more consistency. It would not surprise me to see Martin pass him on draft day.
2) Ethan Martin, RHP, Georgia HS: Also a prospect as a hitter, but his stock as a pitcher has really taken off this spring following a series of dominating performances. 6-3, 200, fine athlete, has shown a 92-96 MPH fastball this spring and more polish than anticipated. Under consideration for Shadow Twins at 14. It wouldn't surprise me to see him end up ahead of Melville when all is said and done.
3) Alex Meyer, RHP, Indiana HS: I admit, I have a slight bias in favor of colder-weather and/or Midwest pitchers. In theory they have less mileage on their arms. 6-7, 200 pounds, hits 94 MPH and projects more. Also has a good spike curveball. Size leads to worries about his mechanics and command and generally speaking I'm not obsessed with tall pitchers, but for some reason I like him intuitively. Mid-to-late first round pick.
4) Gerrit Cole, RHP, California HS: 6-3, 190 pounds, has been clocked as high as 97 MPH, also shows promising changeup and slider. Concerns: his mechanics aren't textbook, he can be emotionally volatile, and the Scott Boras Factor. Depending on what happens over the next two weeks, could go anywhere from 10 to 30.
5) Brett DeVall, LHP, Florida HS: Good size at 6-4, 215. Fastball average at 87-90, but could project more in time and he's the best high school pitcher in the tough Florida ranks. Mixes in a solid curveball and changeup. Mid-to-late first round pick depending on bonus demands.
6) Anthony Gose, LHP-OF, California HS: Very athletic, fast, good prospect as an outfielder but 95 MPH fastball from the left side and a promising curve have boosted his pitching stock this spring. Not big at 5-11, 175, but the athleticism is something I look for in a pitcher.
7) Dan Webb, RHP, Kentucky HS: Great arm, hits 94-96 MPH. 6-3, 205, good athlete. Secondary pitches and control are below average and he's somewhat raw overall. Seems like the kind of moldable pitcher with upside that would interest someone like the Braves or Dodgers. I don't see him lasting long enough to get to Atlanta, but what about the Dodgers at 15?
8) Kyle Lobstein, LHP, Arizona HS: 6-3, 185 pound lefty with 88-90 fastball, good curveball. I really like his smooth delivery, and he's a fine athlete who also plays basketball. Another guy my intuition really likes. Counts as a cold-weather pitcher since he's from Flagstaff, not the warmer Arizona climes. Late first round or supplemental pick.
9) Tyler Sample, RHP, Colorado HS: Big guy at 6-7, 220 pounds. Command and mechanics are erratic, not unusual for a tall high school pitcher, but high upside guy who can already hit 95 on a good day. Also has a very promising curveball. I see him in the supplemental round.
10) Zeke Spruill, RHP, Georgia HS: 6-4, 190, projectable, already works in the low 90s and has some promise with his curve and changeup. Like most of these guys he's fairly raw, but would fit late in the first round or the supplemental round. Seems like a logical fit for the Braves. The Braves don't pick until 40 however...will Spruill still be there? If not, another high school Georgia pitcher named Michael Palazzone has a very good arm and would slot in well for Atlanta there.
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Sonny Gray?
He throws harder than some of the guys on the list. Is it his small frame that gets him omitted from the list. Injury concerns? Or maybe something else I’m not aware of?
by batonball on May 15, 2008 1:04 PM EDT 0 recs
You're correct
Sonny broke his ankle after stepping awkwardly on 1st base about a month ago.
At least it’s not an arm issue.
by batonball on
May 15, 2008 1:20 PM EDT
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Random question off the top of my head John, and it doesn’t fit exactly in any of the draftee lists you’ve posted thus far.
Any thoughts on the 2 elite juco prospects (OF Chisenhall, RHP, SS Ladendorf)? Both are getting some buzz as late first round/supplemental picks. Where do they slot in for you?
I would’ve asked about Colby Shreve (a fan of him), but getting Adenharted sucks.
by mrkupe on May 15, 2008 1:10 PM EDT 0 recs
Webb
Tough to see him going at 15 to the Dodgers – do you really think there will be 6 HS pitchers taken in the top 14? I’d be surprised if more than 2 or 3 are drafted by then.
by Kyle S on May 15, 2008 1:16 PM EDT 0 recs
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Remember, these are John’s rankings, not the rankings of individual teams (which tend to vary greatly). Besides, if a team is looking for a pitcher with a certain profile, there are certain guys who are going to jump up into slots that you might not expect.
by mrkupe on
May 15, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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jake odorizzi belongs in that list.
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by erik on May 15, 2008 2:01 PM EDT 0 recs
Yeah
I didn’t even notice that. I’m not sold on him being in the top 2 or 3 in the HS class but he is in the top 10 I think. Nice catch.
by jfish26101 on
May 15, 2008 2:09 PM EDT
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odorizzi
he is definitely one of the best high school pitchers in the country. patrick ebert from pgcrosschecker.com has him projected going 15th overall and being the first prep pitcher taken.
by fewgoodcards on
May 16, 2008 11:08 AM EDT
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Alex Meyer/Cecil Tanner
Somebody I know who knows what they’re talking about warned me off of Meyer because of his mechanics after seeing him firsthand. The phrase “ticking timebomb” was used more than once. At best, he’s very raw and risky. I understand the upside appeal of a big tall guy throwing in the mid 90’s on a downhill trajectory.
I’m curious about a second/third round type. Anybody know anything about Georgia prep righty Cecil Tanner? I heard a very vague report that he was a pretty decent sinkerballer who works in the lower 90’s with better than average command. I was wondering if that was accurate and if there was any more early info floating around out there.
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by JM Barten on May 15, 2008 3:06 PM EDT 0 recs
Odorizzi?
He could end up being the 1st or 2nd prep pitcher off the board.
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by eazyb81 on May 15, 2008 4:18 PM EDT 0 recs
Hicks
I know he was already listed with the hitters, but he still deserves mention because he is probably the best pitcher in the class too
by ScottAZ on May 15, 2008 4:55 PM EDT 0 recs
Pallazone
I certainly havn’t seen the guys ahead of him but I really think Pallazone has to be one of the best prep pitchers out there.
by nms on May 15, 2008 6:12 PM EDT 0 recs
odorizzi
I was thinking of him more as a second rounder but I see your points about him. Good video here:
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/events/draft_report/y2008/index.jsp?mc=odorizzi
by John Sickels on May 16, 2008 4:14 PM EDT 0 recs
Yeah I don’t think he should be the first or second prep arm off the board but he has to be in the top 10 I’d think.
by jfish26101 on
May 16, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
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Sorry if this is a newbish question
but is there any chance that guys that are falling like Hosmer or Scheppers fall to the Cub’s? And if they do, would they take them?
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
by thecoolest on May 16, 2008 5:44 PM EDT 0 recs
Or Hicks for that matter?
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
by thecoolest on
May 16, 2008 5:47 PM EDT
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In real life
Scheppers and Hicks will fall.
In Sickels mock draft? Who knows.
by batonball on May 17, 2008 12:30 PM EDT 0 recs
Tyler Sample
John, I was seeing if you had any other additional information on Tyler Sample. Reading some stuff at the beginning of the year it did no seem like Tyler was really on the radar. Now he is projected as a supplemental pick to a 2nd or 3rd round pick depending on where you read. It seems the only Colorado High School prospect that was on the radar was Burns who played at Rocky Mountain High School who I believe is going to Kentucky.
Thanks
by MHD on May 19, 2008 8:02 PM EDT 0 recs
Cecil Tanner, Palazzone, and others
Tanner- Better than average command? Uh…no. Tanner should/will end up at Georgia because the kid’s mechanics are shot. You can (and i have) seen him stay tight and crisp and look dominant on one day and then come back and walk 6 or 7 batters the next game. He doesn’t repeat his delivery very well and i think he has to end up in college where he can iron those things out. Too many issues surrounding his game off the mound.
Palazzone- Palazzone has questions around him for a couple reasons. First he missed most of his Jr. season with elbow issues. That’s never good from a scouting perspective. However, more worrisome to ME, is that his delivery is questionable. He comes STRAIGHT over the top and what that does is allows the hitters to get a great view of the pitch before hes released it. He can pump it up around 93,94 and locates fairly well, but its a straight 4 seam fastball. Pretty boring in terms of action. Obviously Palazzone’s curve is plus-plus, and it is probably the best curveball in the draft, but theres not a ton of projection to his changeup right now and that worries people, myself included, as i expected more potential from that pitch coming into this season.
All that said about Pallazone, hes a heck of a better prospect to me than Sample and Spruill. Sample worries me for a multitude of reasons (size/weight and mechanics-or lack thereof). Spruill on the other hand just doesn’t “do it” for me. He throws a good low 90s fastball as well but it hasnt had much movement to it either. While Spruill has better mechanics than Palazzone, there isnt as much upside to his offspeed stuff. His slider is a tick above average, and i don’t think it projects as a true putout pitch (unlike Palazzone’s hook).
by AtlBr on May 21, 2008 2:19 PM EDT 0 recs
Tanner, Palazzone, and others (cont.)
Meyer- This kid is extremely raw. I know alot of people dont like his mechanical makeup, and ill admit there some issue there. But to me the biggest problem is health. He has all the upside in the world, but drafting a kid that early, im leery of this sudden infusion of velocity. I don’t think you can go from throwing in the low to mid 80s to 92-95 MPH over one winter and not be considered an injury risk. I take a guy like Palazzone or Devall up ahead of Meyer because i know those kids have pitched at that high of a velocity before. With Meyer, I am going to be worried if his body (elbow, shoulder, legs) can really repeat that high of a strain that its never dealt with before for more than a year. I think over time you see too many of the kids who add velocity overnight and shortly down the road they breakdown, because without realllllly good mechanics (which Meyer doesnt have), many of their bodies arent capable of putting up with that level of strain
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