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Sadly we don't pick til #40 this year.

Our picks are:  40 - 64 - 70 - 96 - 130 - 160

Not a great selection of picks so it is important to find the right guys in the later rounds, which can be a fun effort.

Here is a ramshackle draft board of sorts.  Don't worry I'm not trying to pimp a blog, there isn't a blog there.  I just found blogspot the easiest way to put all this info out there for me and others to look at and debate.

College Bats

College Arms

HS Bats

HS Arms  (put your comments on this Diary/Fanpost, not the Draft Board links)

I generally underrated guys on purpose so I can move them up as I become more sure.

I have brief comments on alot of guys.  Guys with ? marks are the ones I am really interested to know more about.  Just cause I didn't write a comment out doesn't mean I'm not aware of a player (I probably just didn't feel like typing) but I;d love to know anyones take on any player.

And just because I didn't list a player doesn't mean I don't think he is good (though it might).  Theres probably players I ranked wrong or forgot about.. SO LET ME KNOW!

I;d love to know anyones take on guys we should target for these picks.

Sorry if it is hard to read or disorganized.  I originally created that draft board to use as a basis for doing my own Shadow Draft.

I don't have any very specific draft philosophies.  I'm ok with drafting pitcher or hitters, college or HS as long as it is generally the Best Player Available.  I'm not unreasonably risk averse.  I lean towards going for high upside guys. 

One big question I have is whether we should consider Lonnie Chisenhall.  Talent-wise he could be a steal at 40 or 64 but the Braves don't like guys with legal problems and stealing from a coach is an especially bad sin from a clubhouse perspective.  On the other hand the Braves have given guys 2nd chances and kept them clean.  Apparently Chisenhall has his act together now and the Braves were very fond of him out of HS

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Should Lonnie Chisenhalls makeup/criminal problems eliminate him from consideration for the Braves at pick 40?
Yes
18 votes
No
24 votes

42 votes | Poll has closed

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Who wants to be Deputy?

JFish had indicated he was interested. If he wants it I’ll give it to him.

If he can’t then the position is wide open

by nms on May 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm interested...

but as I said, I’ll be unable to be on the site from about 2 pm till 10 or 11 that evening. If you are sure you will be here then that should be ok but I don’t want to leave you hanging if you think there is some reason you wont be able to make our picks. That is why I didn’t ask for a team so I’ll leave it up to you.

by jfish26101 on May 13, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So does that work for you?

Or are you going to want to find someone who should be able to be here most of if not all of that Sunday?

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 9:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sure

thats fine

I might ask for a 2nd deputy in a future MOD if I see any potential conflicts w my sced but it looks good right now

by nms on May 14, 2008 3:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok that sounds fine. You can find me on AIM if you like sometime, my chat handle is the same as my board name. I have MSN and Yahoo as well but my handles are a little different.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 3:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chisenhalls

I’m not sure if the Braves would take the shot on him but It’s our (this community) mock so we don’t necessarily have to worry about signability/injuries/makeup issues. I guess that just depends on how you want this to go. If you really like the guy from a baseball stand point, he should be considered whether he has the makeup issues or not.

If I were drafting in RL and had the opportunity to speak with him, I could probably get a decent enough read but other wise probably wouldn’t take the risk. In this game though, I don’t see why he can’t be considered.

by jfish26101 on May 13, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I should have clarified

I didn’t mean WILL the real Braves consider him..
What I really meant was something more like.. If we were the real life Braves would we take him, considering our organization’s history, standards and coach/staff personnel.

by nms on May 14, 2008 3:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right I know

and I said if I were the RL Braves I personally wouldn’t but in this game I see no reason why we shouldn’t if you really like him as a baseball player.

My comment about if the Braves would take him or not was just directed towards you saying they liked him in the past but it just doesn’t sound like the normal situation for the Braves.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 9:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Poll is actually really close. It’s be within a vote or two the whole time. I guess it just comes down to your own judgement.

by jfish26101 on May 15, 2008 10:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Have you seen most these guys?

I see you make a lot of posts about college players. Do you actually get out to see them or have some sort of baseball package or just read up on them?

by jfish26101 on May 13, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see many of them

Certainly not most – too damn many for that! – but I watch a lot of college baseball in person and catch it on TV.

The rest I just go off word of mouth.

by nms on May 14, 2008 3:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

Going to a Big East school, I’ve only seen Big East players which I believe you have only 1 listed.

I thought Dominguez looked pretty good. They have him listed at 6’4, 240 and while he doesn’t look to lean he certainly didn’t look heavy. He moved well at 3B; the weekend he was playing WVU he had a really nice bare handed play running down the 3B line and nice leaping catch that most 3B in the college ranks probably wouldn’t have got to.

He smacked out 2 HR in the first game, one to left center and the other to straight away. Over all for the weekend he went 3-10 with 3 walks. I think I heard he hit another 2 HR earlier this week so the kid obviously has some game.

The AD was talking about him and how he felt he improves every aspect of his game with each season and how he was a model student/teamate. They would love for him to come back but just aren’t sure if he will. They said everyone knows he wants to be a pro ball player so if he is drafted anywhere decent should sign.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 9:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a big East player

I left off was the LHP Barnes out of St Johns.

Not dominating but a pretty good LHP who has been pitching well and could be worthy of one of our picks in the 100s

by nms on May 14, 2008 3:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

Fitt (I think it was Fitt but I might be wrong) mentioned him in BA’s latest podcast. They seemed to like him for the 2nd round range but I didn’t get to see him. We played St. Johns away as well as Setan Hall who I wanted to see (watched Sean Black last year). Phelps from ND was impressive and I don’t think he made your list. He absolutely dominated us.

PHELPS, David 7.0 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 10K

It was uglier then that though. Was making us look silly at times.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 3:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually realize now

that, like Rice, I completely left off anyone decent from ND.

Barnes I saw on TV vs. ND’s Korpi. It was a lefty breaking ball duel.

Kyle Wieland, ND, is another guy who might be worthy of one of these picks. College closer but he has 3 solid pitches so maybe he could start

by nms on May 14, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah scouts had Wieland in the mid 90’s I think when he was pitching against us (he closed the game Phelps started so you can imagine how bad our hitters wanted the day to end).

We lit Korpi up but I think that was the game after he took that ball off his noggin.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 3:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Big East

I go to a Big East school as well (UConn), and I saw both Phelps and Weiland. We hit Phelps around pretty good, but I was still pretty impressed with him. Weiland is very impressive. He dominated us, pitching mostly with his fastball and mixing in a hard slider as well.

by SBcaptain2 on May 14, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How did UConn do this season?

I don’t think they did to well when they came up to Hawley Field but I think 1 or 2 of the games was really close.

by jfish26101 on May 15, 2008 10:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

UConn

We started out pretty good, but now sit near the bottom of the Big East standings. We have a pretty potent offense, but no pitching. Our top two pitchers blew out their UCL’s and needed TJ surgery and that was something that we couldn’t overcome. We had an excellent freshman class this year, so we could be a serious factor in the Big East in a couple years.

by SBcaptain2 on May 15, 2008 12:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Similar to WVU

Our pitching hasn’t been very good at all either. We basically just slug the crap out of everyone. Luckily we haven’t had any serious injuries but we could seriously use some better pitching.

by jfish26101 on May 15, 2008 12:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alex Wilson

I thought you liked Wilson; maybe I missed him but is he on your list?

Also your Havens ranking really surprises me. 3rd round?

I haven’t looked at everything in detail but those 2 things caught my eye. I’ll try and take a look at them this morning and post thoughts but I think it’s rather obvious you get to see more players then I do. :p

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wilson

missed this year with TJ surgery. I wouldn’t take him in the first 5 round picks this year but in a deeper draft I would LOOOOVE to spend a later pick on him as a flier.
Also.. you know who I think should go #1 overall. The latest star from Hurricaine, WV.. Thor Meeks. I have no idea if he is any good but a guy named THOR Meeks from HURRICAINE, WV. You can’t make this stuff up…

moving along.,,

Havens is probably more like a 2nd rounder, but as I said I like to initially put guys in a lower rank and move them up as I become sure of how much I like them. Its more something I do for mental organization.
That being said… I’m not sold at allll on Havens.

I can’t shake all of the completely ordinary-ness I have seen from him the last 3 years. I have seen him so many times and he hasn’t been bad but he has not look at all more impressive than any number of ordinary college ballplayers. I might be being hard on him but I don’t see any “impact player” in him. More like a utility guy with an upside of… I dunno.. Joe Randa?

Don’t get me wrong. Joe Randa was a very good player and if i thought that was a median outcome I’d put him really high but at pick 40, yes the selection is narrower, but I would like some All-Star potential there unless I feel there is a guy who is a super-sure thing to be solid. Neither of which I see Havens as.

If I;m drafting I’d take Dominguez in a heartbeat over Havens.
Just my 2 cents. I could be wrong

by nms on May 14, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BA seems really high on Havens. Just surprised me. I really like Dominguez so I have no problem with that.

As far as Wilson goes, I understand. I think we should keep him in mind though just in case we aren’t to fond of anyone else who is sitting there for our pick at 160. At that point, you are basically on your own because I know very little about a lot of the guys you have on your board for the later rounds but I liked what I read about Wilson so thought I’d ask.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 3:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh

the later rounds (as in after pick 160) won’t be part of this mock. All the ideas I have for that would be for a shadow draft seperately. And youre right Wilson might be a good name to nab at 160 if the rest of the crop looks blah.
Hes got some serious talent and a great arm.

Oh and hes pretty damn humble and friendly

by nms on May 14, 2008 3:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pick 40

Well it does stink that this is our first selection but I guess the Braves will just have to do with what they have.

HS Arms
Pallazone is a local product and was ranked pretty high by BA preseason.

Odorizzi has really been climbing draft boards lately. I think BA had a helium watch on him but a lot of people seem to think it’s legit. I imagine he is gone by this time if his stock holds or continues to rise.

HS Hitters
Will the real Harold Martinez please stand up? Which do you think is a better indicator of what his future holds?

College Pitchers
You don’t have to many guys listed there. I noticed no Tim Murphy, you just don’t like him? Or did you forget to mention him?

Collge Hitters
From reading sites on the net, I like a lot of those guys. Thames is really rising. Foster from PP and John both seem to be pushing him lately. I don’t think either Wallace or Davis will be there at 40. Already discussed Chisenhall above in the poll so we will see how that turns out.

I’d have to see how the chips fall but I think we might be better off to try and target a pitcher with 40 hoping someone falls and then focus on hitters in the 2nd with picks 64 and 70. I liked Paramore as much as Posey entering the season and Cooper/Dykstra could be just as good as Davis/Wallace. Dominguez is down there to so that looks like a pretty good crop to draft from.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

couple things

yeah, i’ve seen Pallazone and his HS play a few times. They are a local power.
I never got to play them in HS but they are consistently strong every year.
Jeff Francouers Jr year his team played an epic state playoff match with Stephen Drew’s team that i saw but his senior year they played Lassiter in the HS playoffs and it was tied until Francouer (who had also come on to pitch and was blowing kids away with a low-mid 90s FB) hit a shot into the woods in left to go ahead. This would prompt Francoeurs HS-Parkview- to bat around that inning until Francouer came up again and hit the most insane HS HR I’ve ever seen. It was damn near as high as some pine trees and it literally sounded like thunder coming off that bat. And that Lassiter team Francouer dominated were no scrubs. 8 of the starters would play D-1 baseball with the 9th going to a JUCO, plus an injured pitcher went to GT and their LOOGY went D-1 too. Plus they even had some freshmen and sophs on the JV who would later play in the SEC. And he whooped em. Dominating stuff,,,, aaaanway. getting off the story time tangent

by nms on May 14, 2008 2:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So you do you like Pallazone a good bit from what you saw? I just really like the list of hitters you had for the second round so thought a pitcher made sense at 40. I’m not saying take a pitcher no matter what, certainly have to see how things play out but I’d look that way I think unless a real steal falls to us.

I wish I was close to some good baseball. Up here in WV, there really isn’t anything. I’d love to move to the GA/FL area or somewhere out in CA to see a lot of baseball but at the same time hurricanes/earthquakes really make me question whether it’s something I’d actually consider doing. One of these days I’ll be close enough to some good baseball to see it often.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 3:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WVU has

pounnnnded the ball this year. Tyler Kuhn will get picked at some point this year and freshman Jedd Gyorko will too in 2010 if he keeps this up.

Marshall has a lanky UNC transfer, Nate Lape, who has tapped into his talent this year and is really starting to kill the ball. He is interesting to me.
Marshall’s team overall seems to be on the rise.

As for Pallazone I would absolutely consider him at 40. The past injuries are some concern, he has pitched a lot and there are a few pitchers from his HS that got injured early in college and weren’t ever the same but at the same time it would be very hard to pass on his talent at 40.
I’d like to hear something about his signability.

by nms on May 14, 2008 3:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah Kuhn has hit well but I’m not a real big fan of his actually. He doesn’t seem like a leader on the field, will have to move off SS and I just don’t see it when I look at him. I was talking with a scout about some WVU ball players last year and he said you have to remember you aren’t just looking for ML talent. You have several other rosters you have to fill out. Kuhn will be decent enough at the next level but I don’t see him having to much success.

I really like what I see out of Gyorko so far. He is supposed to shift to SS next year about Kuhn leaves but I don’t think he can handle that position either. His stats are a little inflated due to that hot streak he was on to begin the year (something like a 23 game hitting streak to begin the year?) but he has handled himself well as a true freshman. When I look at him, I see a ball player.

I really like Parks to but he doesn’t get to much love. Shifted for C to RF this year and played a little infield last year. I think he could be a pretty good utility infielder and emergency catcherfor some team. Real tough kid, wrestled in HS. I really like him a lot.

I really REALLY wished Pat White would play baseball this seaosn but he didn’t. Rich Rod was strongly against any football player playing another sport but Stewart seems to be ok with it. Maybe next year but I wont hold my breath.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 3:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HA

I never thought about the Pat White baseball thing. That would have been awesome.

I’ve never really heard of this Parks guy, I’ll have to remember that name

by nms on May 14, 2008 3:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He might not have enough power to play pro ball much but I really like everything else about him. WVU isn’t sure if he will be back or not since they seem to think someone will still draft him as a C but I hope he comes back and works on his strength/power.

Streich is another guy who looks pretty good at times. He has a cannon behind the plate, took Park’s spot as the starting C as a true freshman.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 3:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have Tim Murphy

buttt I’m an idiot and in a little mind-slip I mixed his name up with another UCLA pitcher (Charles Brewer) and I wrote down Tim Brewer on the board. I’ll fix that.

As for H-Mart… I really don’t know. I have never seen him play so all I know is his rep. Sometimes the big HS Jr stars that slump as seniors are legit and they rebound (Cody Johnson), sometimes they were never really all that good (Eric Massingham). Its a mixed bag.
I’m really interested in others input on him

by nms on May 14, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t know anything about Martinez other then what I’ve read on a few sites. That kind of makes me lean towards not considering him unless something happened between now and the draft.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kyle Long

is that Chris Long’s younger brother (and Howie’s younger son)? I see he went to the same HS that Chris did in Charlottesville.

by Kyle S on May 14, 2008 11:50 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

He is a big kid, 6’7”, 280 who pitches and plays first. I can’t remember for sure but I think he has a commitment to play baseball/football for Florida State so that is an issue.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 12:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he turned down

a FB offer from UVA to play baseball only at FSU.

He could probably play FB at FSU but wants to concentrate on baseball only.
He will be a tough sign though because his doesn’t really need any money and is probably looking forward to a chance to play 2-ways for a few years and go to Omaha

by nms on May 14, 2008 2:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh I didn’t know that. I thought he planned to play both sports.

You like him more as a pitcher or hitter?

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 3:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pitcher

I’ve never seen him play but it can be hard for a super-big player to make it as a hitter and there aren’t many LHPs with super arm strength. I’d like to be able to see him though honestly and get a better feel for what he offers. I get the impression his size, power and name might get him a little overhyped but I don’t know that. Is he is a guy with big power, size and arm strength but kind of raw otherwise (as you might expect a kid that big to be) or a good ballplayer with great size, power, arm strength and genetics to top things off?

Thats actually the hardest thing for me in a mock draft. I like drafting HS talent but it is alot harder for a fan to get a feel for the talent there (beyond articles and vid clips) for obvious reasons

by nms on May 14, 2008 3:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I passed a couple messages with a scout who was at Long’s first outing (I think it was his first outing) this year and said he was dealing till he got hurt (line drive off his arm). Said both he and Daniel Marrs looked pretty good but he didn’t give me a report or anything.

by jfish26101 on May 14, 2008 3:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kyle Long

Kyle is only playing baseball. He cannot play football because he signed a LOI to play baseball. If you play multiple sports, you must be on scholarship with the team that has more scholarships. Since he’s already signed to play baseball, he can’t play football until his junior year.

Kyle is about as firm of a commitment as you can be. He’s going to college, and as nms said, he doesn’t need the money. There’s almost no chance he goes pro.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on May 15, 2008 9:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like how

on the front of your HS fb uni’s it says STAB

kinda vicious sounding for little place called St Anne’s, eh? : )

and yes to your Q. Kyle Long is their brother son

by nms on May 14, 2008 2:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tony Delmonico (FSU SS)

I don’t think Tony in the 3rd round wil happen. He’s not very smooth with the glove and will have to switch positions, and while his bat is good it’s not great. I could see him going in the top 10 rounds but I think the 3rd is way too high.

His father is an assistant head coach at FSU though it is unclear if he will stay. If he does I imagine Tony would be a bit of a hard sign, and I don’t think he’s worth it at that point in the draft.

by tdchrisdavis on May 14, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the heads up.

by jfish26101 on May 15, 2008 10:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This really is an odd setup to do a mock.

I know John is working with what he has to work with but I don’t really like that every team can see/read what each team is thinking. I’m sure peoples plans will change on draft day as the picks come in but I think setting something up with at least a little privacy would help this whole process.

by jfish26101 on May 15, 2008 10:38 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

-1

Even though i know what you are saying man.

I like it better when everybody can see everything and get into all the discussions. I’m the Seattle GM but I don’t mind if people read my MODs. Thats not really my point though i guess.

mainly, i’d say this is a good chance to learn about more players in the draft but, only if i read many of the other mod threads. Even if you know who every other team is talking about there is still room to make better, more informed decisions when we pick. Besides, it isnt real so I think the open discussion is more important. Dont get me wrong, Im competitive… even though its a mock i want my players…but honestly how much do any of us know about some of these HS kids? Some a lot, some little but collectively its quite a bit. i think the openess is the best part of this mock thing myself.

by casejud on May 16, 2008 1:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

But I just don’t think it’s optimal. I love reading the discussions but if I were in charge of the Braves draft, I wouldn’t want anyone knowing who I planned on picking. It’s like a poker game!!!

by jfish26101 on May 16, 2008 2:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This isn't a competition...

What we’re going for is a realistic picture of how the draft could play out. As far as I’m concerned, the more information out there, the better; realism isn’t even a possibility. Sure, if you were Frank Wren, you wouldn’t post everything out there for all to see. But you’d also have an army of scouts and cross-checkers to give you information rather than a couple of amateur fans who prefer to follow the Braves’ draft to other teams’. Heck, any real GM is probably going to have more information than the entirety of our draft combined. And that’s no slight to the community here (which is knowledgeable as hell); it’s just the reality of the situation.

Having this be open is not only WAY simpler, it also makes the site a better resource for people looking for draft information, not to mention the availability of information makes for a “better” (closer reflection of the actual draft) mock.

by mraver on May 16, 2008 3:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think that is what we are going for. I never left the discussions Sickels started with the thought our goal was to match the RL draft as much as possible.

by jfish26101 on May 16, 2008 3:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right, but

I think we’re taking different meanings of “real”. I’m thinking of it in the sense of the end result looking like a real draft; you’re thinking of the actual drafting experience being realistic.

So I dunno. Maybe you’re right, maybe I am.

by mraver on May 17, 2008 8:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think knowing what other teams will do

isn’t a huge advantage in this, though i do see your point and there is one way somethings would be better (for the drafter, but not community) private

There is some edge if you are trying to pick between players A and B but you know another team will take Player B if you don’t but Player A could fall to you with a later pick.
That isn’t a huge edge though because there are generally so many spots between picks you know you probably aren’t going to get a guy if you pass on him in one spot and there are so many teams picking in-between that it is hard to say what ALL of them will do

Knowing what other teams are doing, or giving away your own plans, is a much better advantage if picks are being traded which isn’t going to happen here so it is no big deal.
Like in the NFL if the team with pick #5 wants Player A and their original plan is to sit and wait for him but if that info got out the team with Pick #7, who originally thought they could sit and wait, wants him than pick #5’s team could be screwed if pick #7 uses that info to decide to trade up.

It isn’t like anyone in this is going to change their pick just to spite someone. Lets say the White Sox Mock Drafter says, “If Gordon Beckham gets to me I am picking him, no doubt about it!”.
It doesn’t matter. No team ahead is going to pick Beckham now just out of spite if he wasn’t the guy they wanted previously. And no team that passed on Beckham would expect him to be available with a later pick.

by nms on May 16, 2008 4:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The way that privacy would help the drafter

is if you have some darkhorses you know have not been mentioned on this site and you don’t want others to read your take on em and consider taking em. I know I have a few guys like that. I wound up putting most of em on my board bc its more fun to discuss this stuff and help entertain/inform others than to keep it hidden.
I do have one or two guys I’d love to nail with 2-5th rounders in this site that I havn’t opened up about for that reason (and for the personal fun of nabbing someone unexpected) but I very well may in my next MOD for the sake of the community, which is what this is ultimately about.

Also, from a baseball nerd perspective, what is really fun is to watch an unheralded guy play a game and say “hey, he could be something. i wonder why i havn’t heard of him before. he could be as good as more talked about guys.” and then a few weeks later you see PG or BA mention him as a prospect.
Its like.. maybe im not completely clueless after all!

by nms on May 16, 2008 4:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point

I get a charge out of it as well. As much as we share and, I do appreciate it a lot, there is still room for differences of opinion and i still want to pick the players for the Mariners in the mock draft that that will look like good choices a few years down the road. It may be nerdy but, its fun to have a feelinga guy will become a good big leaguer when others dont believe and quite a bit like what a scout feels when he sees the same type of thing.

by casejud on May 17, 2008 3:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

New MOD

and board coming soon

by nms on May 16, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

I might just edited the existing posts or copy/paste em onto new posts and then change the lists from there. I’ll try to add some more notes if theres any interest.

Are there any names on there any one saw and said ‘who!?’ that i didn’t have notes or explanations for and you’d like to know more about?

by nms on May 16, 2008 4:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm…man I dunno. I don’t know much about many of the HS players. The guy BA just picked the Phillies to take in the first (Hewiit?) wasn’t on there that I can remember. From his birthday, he is almost 20 already and BA says he is really raw. That could mean he takes 1-1.5 seasons to get to low A which seems like an extremely risky idea.

I’d still put Wilson on there just in case we decide to take a chance on him. The only other person I remember is Murphy.

As far as players I’d like to know more about, well that is a lot of people! :D I’m not sure if you use instant messengers but that could be a route we take.

by jfish26101 on May 16, 2008 4:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm…? Bit busy this week? :p

Just checking in more then anything. I doubt much was going to change from the first board anyhow but seeing where you are at with things.

by jfish26101 on May 19, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am

in fact pretty busy but I think i’ll post it tmrw and there will be some changes

by nms on May 19, 2008 10:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds good. I’ll keep an eye out.

Project Prospect is about to wrap up their 2nd round of a community mock draft. Isn’t nearly as in depth as the one here and I’m unclear whether we are stopping at the end of round 2 or not but it was interesting none the less. You might want to take a look at it, not sure how much will be the same but it might be helpful in judging what some of the online community is thinking in terms of specific player values.

by jfish26101 on May 20, 2008 4:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5 rounds

This one goes through the 5th round. (So I guess that’s technically 6 total rounds, since we’re doing 5 plus the supplemental.)

by mraver on May 22, 2008 11:48 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant I wasn’t clear on if PP was going to go past the 2nd round. There was talk we would keep going but the picks are coming in so slow I don’t see it happening.

by jfish26101 on May 22, 2008 12:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im not sure this is the current spot, but if youre looking for the realistic pick here

Michael Palazzone, SP, Lassiter, GA.

91-94 MPH fastball, with a plus plus curve (best curve in the draft) and a somewhat projectable changeup. Good size (6’4) and he fits the Braves M.O. He’s the pick here, and i expect the braves to take Palazzone or Spruil provided someone doesnt fall to them that shouldnt fall

by AtlBr on May 31, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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