Not a Rookie: Carlos Quentin
Not a Rookie: Carlos Quentin
Carlos Quentin was drafted by the Diamondbacks in the first round in 2003, 29th overall, out of Stanford. He could have gone 10-15 slots earlier than that, but an elbow injury that required Tommy John surgery hurt his stock and kept him from playing pro ball right away. I was impressed enough with his college performance to give him a Grade B- in the 2004 book despite the injury. I really liked his power potential and offensive skills.
Quentin began 2004 in the California League, hitting .310/.428/.562 in 65 games for Lancaster. Promoted to Double-A at mid-season, he hit .357/.443/.533 in 60 games for El Paso. I saw him late in the season and was extremely impressed: he had a short swing that produced power to all fields, he controlled the strike zone well, he didn't strike out much, and he had more speed and ahtleticism than I had been led to believe. Atthough a big guy, he wasn't a slug at all and had more mobility and grace than expected. I gave him a Grade A- in the 2005 book.
Assigned to Triple-A in 2005, Quentin hit .301/.422/.520 with 72 walks and just 71 strikeouts for Tucson. The PCL and Tucson boosted his production, but given his excellent plate discipline and good health, I was very confident in him and gave him a straight Grade A. I loved the bat and felt his tools were underrated.
As you know, Quentin has split the last two years between Triple-A and the majors. He's a career .230/.316/.425 hitter in 395 major league at-bats, obviously not as good as expected, though he was more impressive in '06 than in '07 when injuries were bugging him. His strike zone judgment hasn't been as strong in the majors, and the injuries are obviously a problem.
What does the future hold? He has a much better shot at playing time with the White Sox than he did in Arizona, and he is doing well in the early going this year. I must admit that I have what I feel is a personal stake in Quentin. My liking of him in the minors was based as much, if not more, on personal scouting as it was on the numbers. As stated, his numbers were inflated somewhat by the environments in which he was playing. But I rated him so highly despite this because of what I saw out of him in person: the compact swing, the excellent plate discipline, the underrated athleticism.
If he stays healthy and gets the strike zone back under control, I think he's going to have a very good career, and I still see him as a player who could make some All-Star teams eventually. The main worry I have is durability: if he stays vulnerable to injuries, that could drag him down.
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Was the TJ surgery on his throwing elbow?
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by BoKnows on Apr 9, 2008 1:26 PM EDT 0 recs
so far
I'm really liking what I'm seeing with Quentin. Granted it's only 8 games, but he's looking patient at the plate and he's not pressing. He's working the count but also making good hacks at balls he can handle. This, to me, is a great sign since he must be feeling the pressure to perform or be relegated to AAA or bench duty.
His power is looking good as well. He has one jack already and he blasted another ball that just went foul in Detroit last week. Against the Tigers on Sunday he smoked a ball to the deepest part of the park with the bases juiced, legging out a triple. His speed is pretty surprising, like John said, he's no slug.
Defensively he carries a good reputation. He made a real heads up play (friday I believe) against the Tigers. He caught a deep flyout and threw out Edgar Renteria at 1st. To be fair edgar was at second before turning around and it looked like he was only going 80%, not expecting a throw. But quentin made a real heads up play and excellent throw.
I'm hoping he pans out, since I've always been a big fan.
Carlos Quentin's time has arrived.
by Team Moneyball on Apr 9, 2008 1:55 PM EDT 0 recs
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Obviously I'm a Dbacks guy and I have to say that obviously Quinten and Connor Jackson have been major dissapointments to me. If you would have asked in 2005, I would have figured at least one, if not both, would be established major leaguers/borderline stars. In hindsight, while Quinten did appear to have more tools than many gave him credit, he also appeared to me to have old man skills. His body is the type to gain weight, thus losing what speed and athleticism he had, he never showed big power, and his best tools, plate discipline, wasn't going to improve any. Also, how many of the BB's he accumalated come way of hit by pitch? He set the NCAA record and then set the Cal league record. If you are depending for 30+ hit by pitches to boost your OB% in the Bigs you are in trouble. Big league control and Cal League control are night and day
by ScottAZ on Apr 9, 2008 2:19 PM EDT 0 recs
quentin's OBP
I agree that his OBP was driven partly by his insane HBP numbers, but his HBP have been consistent throughout his career. While this isn't a skill, some guys seemed to get plunked more than other, such as Craig Biggio. I could see him logging double digit HBP in the bigs.
But I think you are discounting his eye. Sure his 2005 .422 OBP was driven by a lot of HBP, but also 72 walks. having a near 1:1 k/bb ratio is pretty indicative that this guy has a good eye and the ability to make contact.
Carlos Quentin's time has arrived.
by Team Moneyball on
Apr 9, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
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If you are talking about performance, then I think it's tough to label Q a "major dissappointment"
He never fully realized his potential in AZ because of injuries. In 2006, he showed promise in the second half. Before 2007 he was diagnosed with a partial tear in his shoulder. Unsuccessfully tried to play through the injury, then had surgery in the off-season.
I think Kenny Williams might look pretty smart with this trade if Q stays healthy. AZ management got tired of waiting for him to get healthy, and their OF is set for the time-being. That made Quentin more tradable.
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by BoKnows on
Apr 9, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
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and arizona fans will be really happy with chris carter
oh, wait. well, 1/5th of haren is okay.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
by larry on
Apr 9, 2008 3:30 PM EDT
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Nice Read
I am a big Quentin fan and enjoyed this read. I see Quentin becoming a hitter who can hit .280 and pop 30 out of the yard. If he can stay healthy then Sox fans better look out.
by King Billy Royal on Apr 10, 2008 1:10 AM EDT 0 recs








