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Not a Rookie: Shaun Marcum

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Shaun Marcum was drafted by the Blue Jays in 2003, a third round pick out of Southwest Missouri State University. He was a shortstop/closer in college, a testimony to his athleticism. Not a huge guy at 6-0, 180, he had an 88-91 fastball and a good slider. The Jays used him in relief initially and he posted a 1.32 ERA with a 47/7 K/BB in 34 innings in the New York-Penn League. I gave him a Grade C+ in the 2004 book, noting that his grade would go higher if he continued to perform well at higher levels.

The Jays converted Marcum to the rotation in 2004. He went 7-3, 3.19 with an 83/16 K/BB in 79 innings in the Sally League, then 3-2, 3.12 with a 72/4 K/BB in 69 innings in the Florida State League. I moved his grade up to B-, noting that some scouts were concerned that his command might actually be "too good" and that he'd prove excessively hittable at higher levels. He was still at 88-92 but was showing a better changeup and curveball to go with the slider.

Marcum began 2005 in Double-A, going 7-1, 2.53 with a 40/10 K/BB in 53 innings. Promoted to Triple-A, he struggled with a 4.95 ERA. HIs K/BB was good at 90/18, but he gave up 112 hits and 17 homers in 104 innings for Syracuse. He pitched eight scoreless innings out of the major league bullpen. I gave him a Grade C+, writing that relief might be his best role. As a starter, I saw him as a possible strike-throwing inning-eater, but didn't expect him to dominate.

Marcum saw 78 innings of swingman use for Toronto in 2006, then made 25 starts and 13 relief appearances last year. In 245 major league innings, he has a 191/91 K/BB, 242 hits allowed, and a 4.29 ERA. He was quite effective last year. What should we expect for the future?

PECOTA's comps are interesting: Jose Acevedo, Frank Castillo, Eric Gagne, Adam Eaton, Art Mahaffey, Doug Drabek, Mike Gardiner, Gil Meche, Jim McAndrew, and Barry Lersch are the top ten. Gagne doesn't make much sense; Marcum doesn't have that kind of stuff. A Drabek-esque ceiling I can see, if Marcum remains healthy and can improve his command a bit more. That would be his ceiling.

One thing that stands out for Marcum is his athleticism as a former college shortstop. Athleticism is something that's often underrated when discussing pitchers, but it's a critical factor in development. Marcum may be "undersized" classically as a shorter right-hander, but his athletic ability makes that a lot less important, in my view, and should help him stay healthy and reach his ultimate peak. At this point, I'm pretty optimistic about him. He doesn't have the pure physical upside of Dustin McGowan, but he's got a decent chance to be a much better pitcher than a lot of guys drafted ahead of him in '03.

Drabek's best year was 1990 at age 27, when he won 22 games with a +131 ERA+. Marcum's corresponding season would be 2009. Could Marcum make a run at such a season next year? Keep that in the back of your mind.

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One thing a lot of people dont realize is that Marcum was pitching with a bad knee for a lot of the second half of the season last year, he had surgery to correct it during the offseason.
Its hard to tell if it was the injury that slowed him down a little in the second half last year or if it was just a stamina issue. Regardless I see good things for Marcum , his change-up is his best pitch and helps him miss a lot of bats. His first start of the season against the Red Sox he was spotting his pitches and quite dominant save a pitch JD Drew took out for a 3 run shot. The gopher ball is his main worry right now, if he gets the HR's allowed down a notch he is going to be spectacular, as is he is a very competent 3rd starter.

by JJACK on Apr 7, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Drabek

His age 31 was pretty good in the strike shortened year with an ERA+ of 140 and an AS appearance.

I would gladly take Drabek as a comparison, wouldn't think that his ceiling is a Cy Young winner. I've always been optimistic about Marcum, thinking that he's a really good pitcher after watching him.

Hopefully he has a monster 2009.

Thanks for covering him!

by achengy on Apr 7, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks John...

...as a Jays fan, it's been a real treat to watch Marcum...great point about "athleticism" vis-a-vis development...and, it's quite interesting to see how former position players turned pitchers turn out (makes me wonder about the overall success rate, too)...Thanks again.

by almantle on Apr 7, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice

Marcum was a joy to watch in college and a key player in the team's run to the CWS in 2003. At SS he wore tape on his wrists like Tulow and you always knew he was coming in when the he started ripping the tape off. Someone would come out off the dugout and he would throw to him while Guttin was at the mound about to make the change. I think good ol' Gene Stephenson protested that he couldn't warm up that way. What a.. nevermind.

Anyway, great memories... Dant'e Brinkley, Brooks "BPOT" Colvin, Brad Ziegler, Tony Piazza, Greg Mathis... Bob Zimmermann's CGSO of Nebraska in the Regionals... what a fun team to watch.

by sungod7 on Apr 8, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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