Bochy: Brian Bocock could be SF's Opening Day SS
This congers up memories of the White Sox bringing shortstop Mike Caruso all the way from Single-A to "The Show" in 1998, except Bocock will be a temp for two weeks.
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_8477368?source=most_viewed
Bochy said there's a "legitimate" chance minor league shortstop Brian Bocock could start on opening day and man the position until Vizquel returns in mid-April.
Bocock, who turned two double plays Thursday, is a playmaker with a strong arm and has gotten plenty of time this spring; he also hasn't slouched at the plate, hitting .333 with one strikeout in 16 at-bats despite never playing above A-ball.

Bocock To Start In San Francisco?
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=780
Posted Mar. 8, 2008 1:41 pm by Ben Badler
Filed under: Daily Dish
Baseball America correspondent Andy Baggarly reports that Giants manager Bruce Bochy said there is a "legitimate" chance that he might use Brian Bocock as his starting shortstop on Opening Day.
"We're looking for a strong defensive team," Bochy said. "That's the direction we want to go - pitching and defense."
With Omar Vizquel out for the beginning of the season due to knee surgery, Bocock could end up as the surprise starter at shortstop. Bocock, the No. 11 prospect in the Giants system, hit just .220/.293/.328 with 105 strikeouts in 398 plate appearances last year in the hitter-friendly high Class A California League after going .292/.354/.379 in 178 plate appearance with low Class A Augusta. While Bocock's bat appears to be far from major league-ready, he should at least provide the fielding skill that Bochy said the team will emphasize this year. Bocock, who turns 23 on Sunday, is a 65 runner on the 20-80 scouting scale, and managers voted him the best defensive shortstop in the California League last year.
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by DrBGiantsfan on Mar 9, 2008 6:00 PM EDT 0 recs
The Giants reportedly did give him an offer
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/29/SPGKUNQAS.DTL
by sdbaseballfan on
Mar 9, 2008 6:13 PM EDT
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Option
by DrBGiantsfan on
Mar 9, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
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Possibly
by DrBGiantsfan on
Mar 9, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
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Wow
by nyy601 on Mar 9, 2008 6:09 PM EDT 0 recs
Caruso
Safe to say Caruso peaked at age 21, although he apparently decided to play some indy-ball last year after not being on the radar in 05 and 06.
Here is a link to a list of Dusty Baker's favorite players:
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/lists/toughbb.shtml
by jrose643 on Mar 9, 2008 6:48 PM EDT 0 recs
You Mean....
by DrBGiantsfan on
Mar 9, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
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OR
by Azantor on
Mar 9, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
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is it that difficult for sabean
just a few names...
barmes
quintanilla
murphy
petit
zobrist
adams
prado
gonzalez
by rayver723 on Mar 9, 2008 7:00 PM EDT 0 recs
Sabes prolly
And I'm a Giants fan.
Play Schierholtz SOMEWHERE, atleast see if they can develop a ML starter for the first time in 10 years.
by jrose643 on
Mar 9, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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a few of those guys
Plus the good ones from that much would cost a decent arm. No one great but probably someone worth hanging on to. That probably isn't worth it for a one-month solution.
Sabean is probably waiting to see who gets waived after spring
by nms on
Mar 9, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
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Bocock
To view my top 98 prospects list, visit the "now fully constucted" www.fourthout.com
by SFG2008 on Mar 9, 2008 7:03 PM EDT 0 recs
uhh
by nms on
Mar 9, 2008 8:19 PM EDT
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but I do care somewhat
by jrose643 on
Mar 9, 2008 9:14 PM EDT
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This coming from you?
by jrose643 on
Mar 10, 2008 7:34 AM EDT
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My straw reaches acroooooooss the room.
...oh, right, I drink your milkshake, blah blah drainage-cakes.
by drjayphd on
Mar 10, 2008 3:10 PM EDT
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I can't believe Sergio Romo didn't crack the list
by sdbaseballfan on
Mar 9, 2008 11:41 PM EDT
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Take heart
FYI, BA seems to like him a fair bit considering he's a reliever who doesn't throw all that hard, but this year will basically be his make or break chance.
by CrimsonLiederhosen on
Mar 9, 2008 11:55 PM EDT
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w/e
by manny59 on Mar 9, 2008 9:24 PM EDT 0 recs
Oh yeah
by jrose643 on
Mar 9, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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Here is why
. Vizquel is expected to return about a week into the season.
. Bocock is considered by some to be the Giants' best shortstop defensively behind Vizquel himself.
. If the Giants were to make Ivan Ochoa their shortstop (my choice), they would have to add Ivan to their 40-man roster.
. The Giants likely don't want to risk injuring the confidence of their top shortstop prospect, Manny Burriss, the #33 overall draft pick in 2006.
. Playing Bocock in the majors for a week or so gives the Giants extra time to decide if they will play Bocock or Burriss in AA to begin the season. They might have enough time to play Burriss at least briefly there to see if he can seemingly handle skipping a level. Last season he was unable to do so.
. As Vizquel's return date moved up, it made less sense to force Kevin Frandsen to start at a position he clearly wasn't ready to handle.
. While Charlie Culberson is a decent shortstop prospect and Nick Noonan a good second base/shortstop prospect, it likely wouldn't make sense to start either in the majors after only a partial season of rookie ball.
. The Giants re-signed Vizquel rather than signing the much younger Juan Uribe or Adam Everett as free agents.
by sharksrog on Mar 9, 2008 10:39 PM EDT 0 recs
Burriss
Both have shown they weren't ready for High A, the difference between them in this decision is that Burriss (#10 according to BA) isn't nearly the fielder that Bocock (#11 according to BA) is.
by CrimsonLiederhosen on
Mar 9, 2008 11:35 PM EDT
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Yes
Interestingly, even though Manny's batting average at Augusta was nearly twice as high as it was in San Jose, his line drive percentage was actually higher in San Jose.
It seemed as though a good part of Manny's greater success in Augusta than in San Jose came from his line drives falling in at a higher rate and his being able to beat out FAR more ground balls. It is possible that Burriss actually hit the ball as well or even better in San Jose than in Augusta, although he clearly didn't get anywhere near the same results.
But given Manny's great speed, it may be that the ground balls he hit at San Jose (He beat out only one.) were hit harder, while he topped more balls in Augusta and used his speed to beat out double digit ground ball hits on the infield.
What discourages me about Manny isn't his time in San Jose. It is that he has averaged only 1.18 bases per hit. The only player I can find who averaged that few bases per hit in the low minors and went on to a long big league career was Jose Vizcaino, who was probably overrated by many of his managers and whose batting numbers were rather abysmal over his career, despite its longevity.
And Viz was a couple of years younger than Manny in the low minors -- and indeed was a major leaguer by the time he was Burriss's age.
I see 2008 as a key year for Manny. He could easily fall from prospect to suspect if he doesn't hit well in at least AA this season. He needs to start bumping up that meager 1.18 bases per hit. With his speed, he should average that many merely by hitting the ball into the outfield on occasion.
by sharksrog on
Mar 10, 2008 3:25 AM EDT
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Vizcaino vs Burriss
by DrBGiantsfan on
Mar 10, 2008 9:23 AM EDT
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That is a good point
That Manny has the better speed should certainly help him. That his speed is WAY better means that he was almost certainly hitting the ball even more lightly than Vizcaino, even though Jose was younger at the time.
by sharksrog on
Mar 11, 2008 2:54 AM EDT
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Yes
by sharksrog on
Mar 11, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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In fairness
And I think Carlos Gomez, as well. My initial reaction to the mechanics of Tim Alderson and particularly Madison Bumgarner weren't positive for such high draft choices. But Carlos knows far more about mechanics than I, and his enthusiasm for both pitchers improved my own opinion of the Giants' draft.
I DID like the hitting mechanics of both Wendell Fairley and Nick Noonan when I saw them. Not that the Giants could use more hitters. :)
by sharksrog on
Mar 11, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
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haha
which is pretty sad to say even after all the moves the a's made
i mean dont get me wrong
im from the bay area
i root for both teams
just saying the giants havent been fun to watch in awhile
bonds at least gave them something b4 with the hr's
now what
by manny59 on Mar 10, 2008 1:44 AM EDT 0 recs
Don't Be So Sure
by DrBGiantsfan on
Mar 10, 2008 1:56 AM EDT
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there is hope
Seven members of Oakland's top 10 came over in the Haren and Swisher deals. The guys who would have been ranked fourth through 10th previously now help comprise what is probably the best Nos. 11-20 of any team in baseball. 1B Sean Doolittle, RHP Andrew Bailey and OF Jermaine Mitchell would have cracked several top 10s. They're Nos. 16, 17 and 18 here. ... Herrera is falling out of the overall top 150, but there's still hope for him if he's willing to work harder and he has better luck with injuries. When it comes to ability, he isn't far behind Carlos Gonzalez. ... Smith, a product of the Haren trade, is a polished potential fourth or fifth starter. ... Rodriguez has the best stuff in the organization, though he still needs to learn how to pitch. He might end up as a closer. ... Powell seemed to be emerging as one of the game's better catching prospects before getting hurt yet again last year. This will be his age-26 season, so he desperately needs to put his physical problems behind him.
by rayver723 on
Mar 10, 2008 2:15 AM EDT
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Gammons insider
From one scout in Arizona: "The best young pitcher I've seen in two years out here is Oakland's Henry Rodriguez. He throws 98 with a devastating breaking ball." The 19-year old Venezuelan won't open the season with Oakland, but he will get there in a hurry if he stays healthy.
Billy Beane notes that Rich Harden, whose stuff is elite, is throwing as well as ever. Hey, if Harden is healthy and Gio Gonzalez is what he appears to be, why trade Joe Blanton? Beane may well wait.
by rayver723 on
Mar 10, 2008 2:19 AM EDT
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Rosenthal
Just like the Twins, the A's might exceed expectations.
"I keep hearing both Bay Area teams are terrible," one rival GM says. "San Francisco, yes, but I think the A's could be better than people think."
The A's believe that, too, and GM Billy Beane clearly is enjoying the influx of youth created by his trades of Dan Haren, Nick Swisher and Mark Kotsay.
Left-hander Greg Smith, part of the A's six-player return for Haren, is drawing raves for his deception and savvy, and club officials envision three potential No. 3 hitters -- Travis Buck, Daric Barton and Carlos Gonzalez.
by rayver723 on
Mar 10, 2008 2:21 AM EDT
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Offseason deals place Oakland's system among best
by rayver723 on
Mar 10, 2008 2:23 AM EDT
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4 Posts In A Row?
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Mar 10, 2008 9:22 AM EDT
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