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Gallardo to start the year on the DL

Nothing too serious it seems, but hopefully not something that will cause him more problems down the road:

Gallardo, who was expected to be a main cog in the Brewers rotation, has torn cartilage in his left knee and will return to Milwaukee to have arthroscopic surgery on Tuesday, according to several reports.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2008/news/story?id=3250617

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by delomir on Feb 17, 2008 6:26 PM EST reply actions  

Not a problem
If anything, his total innings will now be kept down as a result of this.
My question is who is the temp. replacement in the rotation?
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by bodyiq on Feb 17, 2008 6:29 PM EST reply actions  

Capuano or Vargas
would be my best guess.  Unless Parra pitches lights-out during Spring Training, Milwaukee will send him down to AAA for some more seasoning.  Fortunately, Gallardo is looking at only missing the first few weeks of the regular season.  Still...it's a rough way to start the season...
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by jimmyb1799 on Feb 17, 2008 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't Rush Him
Worst thing he could do is try to rush it back.  You don't want to turn a knee problem into an arm problem.  Make sure the knee is completely healed and the arm built back up.  Losing part of a season is not as bad as losing a career.  He's got a bright future.

by DrBGiantsfan on Feb 17, 2008 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

Need strong legs
Take it real slow.

Phil Hughes was never the same last year due to not being able to push off at max throttle

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by KABOOM on Feb 17, 2008 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Ironic
Ironic that one could have argued that Tim Lincecum's top competition for #1 pitching prospect last winter were Phil Hughes, Homer Bailey and Yovanni Gallardo.  Many gave them the advantage over Lincecum because they felt he was a greater injury risk.

Now a year later, Lincecum is the only one of the quartet who hasn't either missed time on the DL or is about to do so.

This past winter, Tim has concentrated not on putting on weight as many have worried that he should -- but rather on getting in the best possible shape.  We'll see how it works out.

I, for one, am extremely optimistic.  I think Tim is a real breakout possibility this season.  If we see his control improving, particularly with his first pitch of an at bat, don't be surprised to see a huge leap in effectiveness.

by sharksrog on Feb 17, 2008 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

None however
have had arm injuries.  All 3 guys have had leg issues, which, provided that they are allowed to heal properly and the player doesn't try to play through them, these aren't really long term issues.

by Tyler on Feb 17, 2008 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

valid point
but still ironic nonetheless. Saw a comparison of Lincecum to Roy-O. If that ends up being the case, count me as one happy Giants fan!
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by jrose643 on Feb 17, 2008 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope
I hope all these guys are able to stay healthy and go on to long, productive careers.

Right now I might choose Nolan Ryan to compare Tim Lincecum to, although Tim is indeed unique and almost defies comparison.

It will be very exciting to see where his career goes.  That Tim had the highest percentage (30.9%) of minor league batters struck out of any pitcher who faced over 100 batters in the past decade makes the possibilities very exciting.

Control.  That will be the key.

by sharksrog on Feb 18, 2008 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Irrational Exuberance
Let's get real here Shark, nobody, and I mean nobody is going to ever have a career like Nolan Ryan's again.  300 IP, 380+ K's?  20 years?  5 no-no's?  Nope, ain't gonna happen, ever.

by DrBGiantsfan on Feb 18, 2008 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

OK, 7
I guess I lost count.  I don't think Nolan Ryan was the best pitcher of all time, but he was certainly unique.  No way is he now, or ever will be a comp to any current or future pitcher.  Just ain't ever going to happen again.

by DrBGiantsfan on Feb 18, 2008 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Not even close
Dr., Nolan isn't even close to being the greatest pitcher of all time -- although he certainly was extremely good.

There are three things Tim Lincecum does that Nolan did -- two of them good:

First, he walks too many batters.

Second, he strikes out a lot of hitters.

Third, he doesn't allow many hits.

It is quite possible that when Tim retires, he will have done things less well than Nolan, things about the same -- and even some better than Nolan.

Incidentally, Dr., while I certainly compared Tim to Nolan, where did you get the idea that I thought his career would parallel Nolan's?  When you criticize me, it almost always seems to be for what you THOUGHT I said -- not for what I indeed said.

I say enough stupid things without your putting words in my mouth.  :)

by sharksrog on Feb 18, 2008 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

let's see
dr B:
Let's get real here Shark, nobody, and I mean nobody is going to ever have a career like Nolan Ryan's again.  300 IP, 380+ K's?  20 years?  5 no-no's?  Nope, ain't gonna happen, ever.

dr B:

I don't think Nolan Ryan was the best pitcher of all time, but he was certainly unique.

sharksrog:

Dr., Nolan isn't even close to being the greatest pitcher of all time -- although he certainly was extremely good.

sharksrog:

Incidentally, Dr., while I certainly compared Tim to Nolan, where did you get the idea that I thought his career would parallel Nolan's?  When you criticize me, it almost always seems to be for what you THOUGHT I said -- not for what I indeed said.

I say enough stupid things without your putting words in my mouth.  :)

by jpahk on Feb 19, 2008 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

lincecum
I, for one, am extremely optimistic.  I think Tim is a real breakout possibility this season.

really? you?

by jpahk on Feb 18, 2008 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

lol
Haha, no kidding

At least he stopped calling him Timmy, though...

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by Jgaztambide on Feb 18, 2008 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Tim
Tim has grown up.  When I first saw him, he looked like a high school freshman.  By the time he reached the majors last season, he looked more like a high school junior.

This season I expect him to look like a senior in high school or possibly even a college freshman.  :)

by sharksrog on Feb 18, 2008 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Me?
No, not me.  I have never been optimistic about Tim.  :)

by sharksrog on Feb 18, 2008 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Starting the Year on the DL
This is only partially true.  He is out for the next 4 weeks.  He should start the year in Triple A, but I don't think he will start DLed.

by bheikoop on Feb 18, 2008 2:10 AM EST reply actions  

I hope
I hope Yovanni gets well quickly and goes on to have a marvelous career (which I think he should).  He is a very exciting pitcher in what I believe is becoming an era of exciting pitching (and perhaps of very great stars at multiple positions).

The point that none of the trio of Gallardo, Phil Hughes or Homer Bailey has suffered ARM injuries in the past year is indeed good news.

My enthusiasm for Gallardo has increased in the past year; my enthusiasm for Hughes remains quite high; and while my enthusiasm for Bailey has dimmed slightly, I'd still love to have him pitch for my team.

And Reds fans must be excited that while Homer is still a very fine prospect, he isn't even his own team's best prospect now in the eyes of most.  And Dusty Baker will almost certainly be getting a chance to show whether his presumed obsession with older players is real -- or if he merely hasn't had a lot of truly good young players to work with.

IMO Dusty is very good motivationally; not so great strategically (a trait he shares with many managers).  He has been said to overly rely on veterans.  With the Reds having several very fine prospects, new evidence should emerge -- one way or the other.

by sharksrog on Feb 20, 2008 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

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